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In this week's episode, the boys dive into CRIME in the Star Wars universe!
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Apologize bitch, apologize.
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We're not recording yet.
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We are recording.
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Hmm, I don't think so.
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Apologize.
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We're not recording yet.
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We are recording, apologize.
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I don't think you're recording.
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I am recording, I-
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Bitch, why does that even matter?
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Look, look, I'm literally recording.
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Good, why don't we start the episode over? I'll apologize.
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No! Apologize outside of the episode, this has to be its own entity.
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Does it though?
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Yes, say you're sorry, you motherfucker.
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I'm pretty sure my exact words were, I will apologize in the next episode.
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During recording, I'm recording.
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Nope, you know we record, right?
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Like it's literally posted.
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You said why we're recording.
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You didn't specify anything outside of that.
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Bitch, I pressed record, that means we recorded.
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Apologize.
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The more you ask, the more I'm not gonna do it if you keep asking.
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You already promised, apologize.
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I will.
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You will.
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You better fucking apologize.
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You will.
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Just fucking-
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Just fuck my dick, what the-
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Gladly, and I'll make sure you like it too.
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That way you'll be fucking questioning your sexuality for the next six and a half years.
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I'll suck your dick so good your toes will curl and fucking poke your heel with your toenail.
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The fuck?
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As you need to.
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It sounds so painful.
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It's so good, it's painful.
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It's not good.
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I forget what black R&B artist was like,
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Joy!
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And pain!
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It's like sunshine!
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And rain!
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So, I'll be the sunshine, your toes will be the rain.
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What's up guys?
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Welcome back to the 4Sunscripted.
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Today we got another episode for you.
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Gonna be talking about crime, which even though I chose the topic,
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I feel like it's more like Nikita's topic anyway.
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But yeah, we're gonna talk about some crime today.
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Maybe talk about a little bit of Hutt Juice, who knows?
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You know, that's kinda racist.
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Like, why has it gotta be the black guy's episode?
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Cause it's about crime.
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You do only be talking about crime, drugs, and having sex with huts, so.
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This is literally his topic.
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Yeah, but I chose it because we're kinda on this like,
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Hutt, you know, kick right now?
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Oh, it's a wee thing now, so this is a group effort.
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We're collaboratively fucking huts now.
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It was more like a royal wee talking about you.
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I was about to be like, don't rub me into this.
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Anyways, I do love me some crime, I also do love me some drugs,
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and I love fucking huts, both like, you know, metaphorically and literally.
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Well, I guess not literally, cause I can't actually fuck a Hutt.
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I surely can try.
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Yeah.
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There's probably definitely some like, Hutt-like people out there.
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So, you can get close.
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With the same viscosity of slime?
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Yeah, you don't know what they got going on down there.
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Ooh, I don't know why, but it's just so much...
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It's so much more unappealing when I think about a slimy human.
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Like, slimy hut, that's that good shit.
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Slimy human, get the fuck away from me.
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Man, I had so many things I could say,
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but I don't think it's appropriate for the podcast to say them.
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Well, okay, how are we gonna draw this line now?
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Like, what is inappropriate for this podcast?
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Like, please, please explain.
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I have literally talked about fucking huts.
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I mean, Exotic was like,
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I'm sure there's some Hutt-like people out there,
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and then some names pop to my mind,
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but I don't think it would be nice to name drop said people on said podcast.
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This is as much my podcast as it's yours,
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so if you feel it necessary to name drop, we can surely name drop.
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Whether it makes it to the main episode or not, I can't tell you.
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But you can surely get all our attention.
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But if I name drop like your ex, that's kind of wack, isn't it?
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For the record, I would like to say that my ex is definitely a Hutt-like person.
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All right, there we go.
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That's crazy.
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I have...
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He's speaking from a place of experience.
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I have security cam footage of them slithering forward with my shit.
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Not my literal shit.
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I was gonna be like, what?
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All right, anyways, let's dive into this topic of crime
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before my brain cells further deteriorate.
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Uh, so yeah, crime.
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We might talk about some crime syndicates.
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Maybe we'll talk about the spice trade or, you know,
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trafficking of rare and exotic species of, you know, non-Sentience or sentience.
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You know, it's Star Wars. It'd be like that.
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It's amazing that we are an unscripted podcast.
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But like, at least when I do my unscripted topics, I have structure.
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You guys just fucking amorphous blobs on this bitch.
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What do you mean?
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Well, that's because I don't fucking script it.
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I literally just...
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You can have no script and still have structure.
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I don't know about that one.
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I do know about that one because it's like, hey...
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Half a year's are scripted.
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Half of... None of mine are scripted.
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We can go back to that question of the day.
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Okay, questions and podcast topics are not the same.
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But you said none of your shit is scripted.
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Okay, well, none of...
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Still none of the shit's scripted.
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Just because I see it before, I don't think about my answer.
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He literally said, and we record, so I know he said this.
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I looked at this like two hours ago.
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So I've only known about it for like two hours.
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That doesn't mean I script anything.
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That means you thought about it, though.
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That means I read it. That doesn't mean I thought about it.
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I read a lot of things without thinking about it.
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Half your text messages, for example.
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No comment.
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Yeah, exactly.
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No comment.
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Anyways, crime in Star Wars is something that I really like
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because I feel like one of the main, I guess,
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archetypes of character in Star Wars is centered around crime,
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and that's smugglers.
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And some of the most important characters
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that we come across are smugglers.
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Han Solo and Chewbacca being the primary example.
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But there's other main characters out there
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that are also smugglers.
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Another very popular one is Greedo, for example.
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Another very affluent Rodian smuggler
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that comes to the scene,
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and all of which kind of revolve around drugs.
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I love drugs.
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But the spice trade, super big.
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As we all know, Han Solo, one of the things
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that thrusts him into the spotlight
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is the fact that he had to drop a load of spice
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after being traced or followed by Imperial cargo inspectors
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and had to dump his spice and pissed off Jabba
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and then owed him the value of the spice,
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plus a little change.
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But without that event,
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I guess you could call it a canon event, literally,
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we don't get Han Solo.
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And I feel like drugs and crime are very important
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to the Star Wars universe.
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It's funny, but how many times in Star Wars
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do we see a smuggler actually complete a smuggling job?
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Like an important named character?
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How many times do they ever actually smuggle
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something successfully?
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I'd have to rewatch the movie,
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but don't they show the Kessel Run in the Solo movie,
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or do they not?
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They do show the Kessel Run in the Solo movie.
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Cause it's successful in Legends.
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I don't know if it's successful in Canon.
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I can't remember.
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Yeah, I haven't watched the Solo movie in a hot minute.
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And honestly, I thought the whole thing
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was a fever dream anyway, while I was watching it.
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So I honestly don't remember most of it
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other than the droid and the sabacc game at the end.
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True, but you, I mean, you make a very valid
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and clear point, like you, I don't think you do.
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Like even, even Hondo, like a clear, like Hondo Anak,
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a very successful smuggler.
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Like how many times does he actually smuggle
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something other than like people?
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And it's typically in aid of like the rebels or something.
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Right?
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They're not usually successfully smuggling spice or anything.
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It could just be like, hey, you know,
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these smugglers, they're not the best.
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And we don't condone, you know,
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smuggling drugs across borders kind of thing.
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We don't want to pass on that kind of thing.
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If kids are watching this or whatever,
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we just want to make the smugglers a squash, buckly,
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lovable character versus a actually successful criminal lord.
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You know?
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I'm so happy that you mentioned Hondo.
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Hondo Anak is probably in my top three smugglers
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in the Star Wars universe, just because of like that element.
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Like the way he, I just like the way he talks.
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Like the element of comedic relief that he provides is great.
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He's like the, I consider him the Jack Sparrow
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of the Star Wars universe.
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He does, he does give off Jack Sparrow vibes,
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especially with, you know, the entire garb that he wears as well.
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I'm trying to think of other big crime things
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that are like very tantamount to the Star Wars universe.
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Like clearly there's like the, the runnings of Black Sun,
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which is probably like the greatest criminal organization
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that we know of as far as the Star Wars universe goes.
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There's also like you had mentioned at some point,
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like the Pikes, I don't know much about them.
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And then of course there's Crimson Dawn,
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which I also don't know much about.
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So actually in, yeah, in canon,
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Crimson Dawn is actually the top crime syndicate.
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You would think it'd be the Hutts, but as a matter of fact,
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supposedly in canon, the Crimson Dawn,
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which is the leader of Crimson Dawn for the longest time
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and the founder of it is Maul.
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Crimson Dawn is actually the most successful
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and powerful crime syndicate, which-
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Does Black Sun exist?
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In canon, I don't know if Black Sun exists.
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Wasn't Zero, cause in Legends Zero is part of Black Sun.
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Yes, Black Sun, Crimson Dawn,
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Krimora Syndicate, Hutts and the Pikes were the originals.
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And then in the time of the first order, the Hutts,
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no, so Black Sun gets disbanded.
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Krimora was replaced by the droid Grota, Gotra.
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And then Crimson Dawn was replaced by two different gangs.
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And the Hutts and Pikes were replaced by Kanji Club
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and the Red K Raiders.
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So like all of them are kind of stamped out.
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Damn, see, one of the things that I really liked
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about Legends was the competitiveness
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between Black Sun and the Hutts,
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because like there were like a couple of Hutts here
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and there that were a part of Black Sun.
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But for the most part,
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the Hutts did not want to deal with Black Sun.
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And it was, I believe it was Jabba and his aunt
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who were trying to stay away because they were like,
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once you dip those fingers in Black Sun, you can't pull out.
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And Shisou was like a badass fucking crime lord,
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just in general and like knew how to manipulate the Hutts,
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which is something that's fucking hard to do.
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Especially since the falling pheromones
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can't affect Hutts either.
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So apparently that information came from
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the 2018 Star Wars Smuggler's Guide,
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which is a canon reference book.
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So that will tell you the canon syndicates
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and what happened to them later on in the stories.
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I'm really surprised that they all just kind of disbanded
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or got folded into something else.
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Yeah, it kind of takes away from them a little bit
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because I mean, like they were these massive fucking entities
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basically running the areas of the galaxy
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where either the Republic, the New Republic
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or the Empire couldn't reach.
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Except for Black Sun, Black Sun was everywhere.
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Black Sun didn't give a fuck.
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They were in the middle of Coruscant.
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Though the droid syndicate
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originally was supposed to have its own game,
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Star Wars 1313, but that game was canceled.
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And then they got kind of mentioned
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in a couple of reference books and stuff.
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Apparently they were mentioned in Tarkin as well,
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the novel Tarkin.
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Ooh, I haven't read that one yet.
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That's a James Luceno book and I like him from Legends.
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I'm two books away from starting the canon timeline.
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Yeah, it's kind of lame that like the Hutt syndicate,
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the Hutt clan, how are you gonna replace the Hutt?
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Those fucks never die.
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They're like a thousand years old.
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Oh, okay, okay, I see.
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So when Jabba died, these guys moved in
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and took over these red K raiders
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and they were allied with the Black Sun.
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Ah, well, that explains a lot.
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I mean, that makes sense because in Legends,
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like by the time Jabba dies at Return of the Jedi,
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like the Deselegit clan,
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which is the clan that Jabba was,
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was like basically holding most of the Hutt power and money.
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So that does make sense
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because Tatooine fell into disarray afterwards
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because what's his name?
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Bib Fortuna tried to make his run at running shit and failed
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and everyone else who tried to take over Jabba's holdings
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basically failed fucking tremendously.
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Interestingly enough, so they came around at like,
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just at the end of the empire, these red K raiders
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and they sure had a bad run of things,
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getting like half their dudes killed the Beastmaster
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for Jabba, like Jabba's old Beastmaster was one of them.
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He got killed by Cobb Vance, our boy wearing Boba's armor.
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Imagine a dude wearing Boba's armor shows up and kills you
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and it ain't even Boba.
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And then later on, Boba shows up, takes that armor back
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and then sits in your chair
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and replaces you by getting a rain corvette.
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That's the ultimate disrespect.
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I love it.
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Because eventually the red K raiders were mostly thwarted
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in their dude or their goals, whatever the fuck it's called,
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by none other than Han motherfucking Solo.
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Solo is number one smuggler.
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I don't care what anyone says.
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What has he smuggled successfully
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other than the one Kesselron?
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It doesn't matter.
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He was fucking over, like no Imperial could catch him.
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One of the things-
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Okay, but could no Imperial catch him
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because he had a dope ass spaceship
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or could no Imperial catch him
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because he was actually just that good.
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Why do you have a dope ass spaceship?
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Why do you have a dope ass spaceship?
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Because he cheated at Sabacc and took it from Lanto.
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Okay, but when he got the Falcon,
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it wasn't already souped out the way he did.
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It was souped out a lot.
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I guess, minorly, but the shit that he added
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was fucking insane.
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Sure, but like it still did the Kesselron initially
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with the minor modifications or whatever
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that were done to it, not with all the shit that he did.
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What exactly did he add?
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He added sensor arrays, jammers.
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He added concussion grenade launchers.
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He added a bunch of other stuff
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to kind of trick out the hyperdrive.
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Like he, so in Legends,
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he went specifically to the corporate sector
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to meet this guy, I forget what his name,
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he was a doctor, but he was like,
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the guy you took your ship to, to like optimize it.
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He went to the corporate sector for a stint
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during his time before he joined the rebellion
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and had it souped out by this guy
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who is basically who got it to go 0.5 past light speed,
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which I'm gonna be honest,
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I still don't know what the fuck that means.
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Well, you hit light speed and then you go 0.5 farther.
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What does that mean?
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You go 0.5.
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So are you going 1.5 times the speed of light?
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Yeah, I mean, 0.5, that would be 50%.
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It just doesn't make sense to me.
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Or is it 0.5% faster than the speed of light,
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which is barely anything,
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but I guess it would be enough to be faster
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than anything going speed of light.
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See, even you're questioning,
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like what the fuck does this mean?
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Either way, it's faster than your traditional hyperdrive,
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which goes light speed.
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Yeah, I think he has a class A or something like that.
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I think that was an A.
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But I guess if it's the 0.5% like faster,
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it makes more sense that like Boba was able
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to kind of track him and keep up with him a little bit
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versus like if it was 50% faster than the speed of light,
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nobody would ever catch on.
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I don't think speed really matters
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in Boba's tracking ability because one, he used a tracker
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and two, it's fucking Boba Fett
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who could find a fucking needle in the galactic haystack.
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I mean, what's your point?
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Speed is inconsequential is my point.
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Well, but I mean, he still,
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even if he has the tracking beacon on him, right?
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He still has to fucking catch up to him.
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Yeah, but shit's gotta come out of light speed
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at some point you run out of hyperdrive fuel.
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And if he's been going one to five times the speed of light,
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you were never, even if he takes the time to refuel,
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you aren't catching him.
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All right, brick three, no.
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He got there like.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, brick three, I need a fact check.
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What the fuck does 0.5 pass light speed mean?
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I wonder if there's an explanation out there.
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Like if it takes you 10 days to get from the inner core
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to the outer rim or some shit, right?
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Well, he could do it in five days with that kind of speed.
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So he has five days to refuel while Boba's trying
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to get his fucking little fire spray to get over there
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and catch his ass.
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Is that how that math works?
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I mean, maybe not exactly, but it's similar.
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It's enough time that the motherfucker could refuel
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and be on his way.
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It'd be like three days.
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He would get there in seven instead of 10.
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Yeah, that's what I was like.
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Yeah, seven and a half.
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Still, you'd have like three days to fucking refuel
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before Boba Fett even got close enough to you.
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You still have the tracker.
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He's never going to be able to like,
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cause I mean, if he doesn't know he's being tracked,
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eventually he's gonna slip up.
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And that's the kind of thing
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that Boba Fett would capitalize on.
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Yeah, cause Boba Fett's a dope.
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Speaking of which, can we include bounty hunters
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into like the whole crime thing?
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Because second thing, they're just doing like,
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they're just like, yeah, they're just doing like
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conscripted crime, right?
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Yeah, I mean, dead or alive, I mean, murder is still illegal.
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Even if somebody's paying a lot of money
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for somebody to be dead, it's still illegal.
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Does that mean that the empire was breaking their own laws?
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What laws?
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I think they've learned a lot more
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than just break their own laws.
00:17:24
Yeah, that's true.
00:17:25
It's rules for me, but not for me.
00:17:27
I've just been reading up on the shadow collective,
00:17:29
which is pretty interesting.
00:17:31
Wait, you can read?
00:17:32
Yeah, I have more than a third grade level unlike you.
00:17:34
How many books have you read in the past three years?
00:17:37
The past three years?
00:17:38
Yes.
00:17:40
Probably at least 20 or so.
00:17:43
Okay, I am literally 15 times your number.
00:17:46
All books of which are basically at an adult level.
00:17:50
So what point were you trying to make
00:17:54
by saying third grade level, buddy?
00:17:57
Every other podcast episode,
00:17:58
I'm talking about the books I'm reading.
00:18:00
Yeah, you don't really portray it as well.
00:18:03
I read six books this week, so.
00:18:05
You know, do you know how easy life is
00:18:08
when people just assume you're stupid and you're not?
00:18:10
I love it.
00:18:11
Hell yeah, I want that.
00:18:12
Assume I'm dumb.
00:18:13
Well, you are stupid and dumb.
00:18:15
Whoa, that's toxic.
00:18:16
And that's how he likes it.
00:18:19
He's fooling even you, exotic.
00:18:20
Yeah, I even like it, turned around, bent over too.
00:18:24
You wanna write that down?
00:18:25
We record, that's enough.
00:18:28
It looks like we have the 3PO fact check ready.
00:18:32
All right, he says,
00:18:34
light speed was slang referring to the threshold
00:18:36
at which a starship first entered hyperspace.
00:18:39
In terms of hyperspeed travel,
00:18:42
the hyperdrive rating indicates the amount of time
00:18:45
of travel relative to the speed of light.
00:18:48
So a 0.5 hyperdrive that the Falcon had
00:18:52
would travel the same distance in half the time.
00:18:55
And the-
00:18:56
I was right.
00:18:57
Top speed is 25 light years a day.
00:19:00
Damn.
00:19:01
I was right.
00:19:02
Okay, I'll give it to you.
00:19:04
I'm not afraid to be wrong.
00:19:06
You're just afraid to apologize.
00:19:07
I'm not, clearly.
00:19:09
Oh, speaking of which, hey, hey, hey, exotic.
00:19:12
Hey, exotic, hey, hey, exotic.
00:19:14
Hey, hey, you got something you wanna say
00:19:17
to the listeners out there?
00:19:19
I mean, I was gonna say this for like the end,
00:19:22
but I can do it now if you want me to.
00:19:23
I sure want you to.
00:19:25
I need to drink those tears.
00:19:27
I mean, ain't nobody crying over you, bud, but-
00:19:29
That's not true.
00:19:30
Every time I visit Winshee, I make him cry
00:19:33
by how much of his food I eat.
00:19:35
I feed him all the leftovers I don't want.
00:19:37
Well, then he's not crying over you.
00:19:39
He's crying over the food that he lost.
00:19:41
Because of me.
00:19:42
Yeah, it's not directly over you.
00:19:43
Shut up and just apologize.
00:19:46
Well, from our last recording, we had a, fuck.
00:19:50
I don't even know where to fucking start.
00:19:51
We had a fuck, indeed.
00:19:53
Yeah, we definitely did have a fuck.
00:19:55
According to Nikkata, I said that,
00:19:58
or I brought Space Jesus up first,
00:20:00
and according to the recording, I did.
00:20:03
But, you know, Nikkata definitely probably did
00:20:06
some sort of editor shenanigans during it,
00:20:09
but I will be the bigger person-
00:20:10
Libel and slander.
00:20:13
I will be the bigger person and apologize for it,
00:20:15
so I am sorry.
00:20:16
Sorry for what?
00:20:17
Being wrong.
00:20:18
Thank you.
00:20:19
That's all I wanted to hear.
00:20:21
You happy?
00:20:23
I am happy.
00:20:24
Happier than a kid in a candy store.
00:20:27
What if that kid has diabetes?
00:20:28
Then that kid would be me in a candy store.
00:20:33
I didn't really pay much attention
00:20:34
to the crime syndicates on all the shit that I've watched.
00:20:38
The only one that I ever paid in-depth attention to
00:20:41
was The Shadow Collective,
00:20:42
which was the one that I was reading about.
00:20:44
So you only just started paying attention?
00:20:46
Basically.
00:20:47
I don't give a shit about them.
00:20:51
See, I brought up the crime and stuff
00:20:53
because the new Star Wars game Outlaws came out
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and you play as a smuggler
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and you're heavily involved with all the crime syndicates
00:21:00
and stuff during the time of the Empire
00:21:02
post the Battle of Hoth.
00:21:04
And I mentioned smugglers being unsuccessful
00:21:08
because I've only played the first couple of missions
00:21:11
in the video game,
00:21:12
but the main character is horribly, horribly naive
00:21:16
and a terrible smuggler and criminal.
00:21:19
Every single job she ever does goes wrong.
00:21:22
And I just thought it was funny.
00:21:23
It was like, how many successful jobs
00:21:25
have we actually seen ever?
00:21:27
Not many.
00:21:28
Not many.
00:21:29
You're right about that one.
00:21:31
I just think that crime plays an important role
00:21:33
in Star Wars when you think about
00:21:35
the political landscape of it,
00:21:36
because at least as far as the original trilogy is concerned,
00:21:41
you could even say the prequel trilogy,
00:21:43
because I mean, in order to get the supplies they need,
00:21:47
the rebel faction has to commit crimes,
00:21:49
stealing supplies wherever they can,
00:21:52
robbing Imperial depots and that kind of stuff.
00:21:54
And it does play an important role in the rebel tactic
00:21:58
to basically thwart the Empire.
00:22:00
So that's a big thing.
00:22:01
I don't know how much crime is involved
00:22:03
with first order stuff,
00:22:04
but I imagine it has to be something similar
00:22:06
because again, ragtag group trying to fight the powers
00:22:10
that be who wants to rule the galaxy.
00:22:13
So I imagine there's some crime in there.
00:22:14
And then like I said, a lot of the main character,
00:22:17
well, at least Han Solo,
00:22:19
one of the biggest name characters
00:22:21
in the entire Star Wars franchise,
00:22:24
centers a large portion of his life around crime.
00:22:28
That's how he has to make his living.
00:22:31
The thing, it's a little bit juxtaposed
00:22:33
between the original trilogy and the sequel trilogy,
00:22:36
because in the original trilogy,
00:22:38
you have the inner core Empire and also in the prequels.
00:22:42
You have the inner core Empire and Republic
00:22:45
that are working to stave off the influence
00:22:48
of the Outer Rim crime syndicates and all that kind of thing.
00:22:51
But in the sequel trilogy,
00:22:53
the first order comes from the Outer Rim.
00:22:55
So they've been using the crime syndicates,
00:22:59
like the pirate gangs we see in the Mandalorian TV show.
00:23:02
They've been using those connections and whatnot
00:23:05
to actually further their goals in the sequel trilogy
00:23:08
and beyond versus in the originals
00:23:12
where they were more like staving it off
00:23:14
or working with them in the shadows very secretively,
00:23:18
like paying off the huts to get Han Solo,
00:23:21
that kind of thing, or trying to.
00:23:23
So I think it's a little bit different
00:23:25
where in the earlier stuff,
00:23:27
we're trying to stave off crime.
00:23:28
And in the later stuff, the Empire's like,
00:23:30
we are buddies, we are Outer Rim,
00:23:33
we wanna take the inner core kind of thing.
00:23:35
I mean, doesn't like the entire Star Wars story,
00:23:37
just start with crime,
00:23:39
because Anakin and his bomb were fucking slaves.
00:23:42
Yeah, but that's legal slavery.
00:23:43
Is it though?
00:23:44
In Outer Rim, it's not legal in the inner planets.
00:23:47
I mean, that's the whole-
00:23:48
So technically that's still crime.
00:23:50
Yeah, it depends on the perspective you're looking from,
00:23:54
right?
00:23:55
Like if you're looking at it
00:23:56
from like a centralized government point of view,
00:23:57
absolutely illegal.
00:23:58
If you're looking at it from the rights of planets
00:24:01
to themselves, then no.
00:24:02
Which is-
00:24:03
The whole federalist, anti-federalist argument.
00:24:06
The Republic, CIS, the Union versus the Confederacy.
00:24:11
Slavery, crime and drugs, everyone.
00:24:13
That's Star Wars for you.
00:24:15
I mean, damn, that actually is Star Wars for you.
00:24:18
Yeah.
00:24:19
Slavery, crime, drugs and war.
00:24:22
Is it not?
00:24:23
It's literally called Star Wars.
00:24:26
I guess the only thing that I have to say
00:24:28
before we close things out for this episode is,
00:24:32
this is a little bit of me being on the soap box,
00:24:35
but if you want to talk about real criminality
00:24:38
in Star Wars, it is absolutely criminal
00:24:41
what Star Wars fans have done
00:24:44
to not only the reputation of the fandom,
00:24:47
but to the actual franchise itself.
00:24:50
One post that I saw that I shared with my co-hosts here
00:24:53
the other day was about the Acolyte.
00:24:55
And Amandla Stenberg had to say that like,
00:24:58
the Acolyte getting canceled is not a huge shock
00:25:01
just due to like the vitriol from Star Wars fans.
00:25:06
There was a post on Twitter
00:25:07
by a account called Discussing Film.
00:25:10
And they basically posted, you know,
00:25:12
some of her comments with pictures of the Acolyte
00:25:15
and someone retweeted it and it was like,
00:25:17
do you know how insanely toxic a fandom has to be
00:25:21
that a page called Discussing Film
00:25:24
has to disable the comments
00:25:26
to keep them from discussing said series that is canceled
00:25:30
because they fucking review bombed it
00:25:32
when it wasn't a bad series.
00:25:34
That's fucking criminal in my mind.
00:25:36
So I guess criminality and Star Wars go hand in hand,
00:25:39
whether you're talking about the fucking series itself
00:25:42
or the stupid fucking fans of this goddamn series.
00:25:46
Like I do not want to be associated
00:25:48
with the Star Wars fandom.
00:25:49
And I have to be because I'm a Star Wars fan.
00:25:52
Dude, every conversation I have with people about Star Wars
00:25:54
in the last like month is like,
00:25:57
hey, you like Star Wars, right?
00:25:58
What did you think about the Acolyte?
00:26:00
And then I'm like, well, I thought it was like,
00:26:02
you know, pretty good shit, had some cool stuff.
00:26:04
There was stuff I disagreed with and they're like,
00:26:06
what do you think about the stupid LGBTQ and the blah, blah,
00:26:10
I'm like, will you shut your dumb fucking ass up
00:26:13
and let me just like talk about a thing I enjoy
00:26:15
without your stupid fucking hate speech,
00:26:17
dumb ass opinion getting in my shit.
00:26:20
Every single person I talk to,
00:26:21
I haven't had a single conversation
00:26:23
where I haven't had to be like,
00:26:24
can you shut the fuck up about this fabricated story
00:26:28
of like inserting whatever into Star Wars,
00:26:30
like shut the fuck up.
00:26:32
Yeah, I've had some like actual friends
00:26:34
that aren't like really big Star Wars fans.
00:26:36
And like, if I even bring up the Acolyte,
00:26:38
they're like, oh yeah, I heard that show was garbage.
00:26:40
I'm never gonna fucking watch it
00:26:41
just because of all the bad reviews and shit on it.
00:26:43
It's just like our fandom is just tanking shows
00:26:46
to where we won't get new people to come and just try it,
00:26:49
which is just-
00:26:50
I've had people I kind of like thought I respected
00:26:52
or like felt like we were friends before.
00:26:54
And then they're like,
00:26:55
what do you think about the Acolyte?
00:26:57
And I'm like, oh, I thought blah, blah, blah.
00:26:58
And they're like, I haven't watched it yet
00:26:59
because of that LGBTQ shit.
00:27:01
And I'm like, and we're not friends anymore.
00:27:02
It's like, I thought you were a chill dude.
00:27:04
And then all of a sudden you're like,
00:27:05
let me hop on this hate boner train.
00:27:07
I was like, have you seen this show?
00:27:08
And they're like, no,
00:27:09
but I saw some comments on fucking Reddit and Twitter.
00:27:11
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:27:12
Some comments, all these fucking comments
00:27:15
that are disabled.
00:27:16
The haters are always louder
00:27:17
than the people that actually enjoy shit.
00:27:19
Exactly.
00:27:19
How fucking obnoxious.
00:27:20
Like I, so I have a bunch of Star Wars friends who,
00:27:23
they didn't, I specifically asked them,
00:27:25
they didn't watch Acolyte, not because of what they heard,
00:27:28
just because they didn't have time.
00:27:30
So I mentioned the whole premise of the planet
00:27:35
with the witch cult and everything.
00:27:37
And I was explaining it to them, like,
00:27:40
hey, there were these two women
00:27:43
and one of them used the force to create life
00:27:46
with the virgins of the force.
00:27:47
And they were like, oh, witches of Dathomir?
00:27:49
And I feel like that is the appropriate response
00:27:52
of any person who is a Star Wars fan.
00:27:55
Cause you hear that and you don't automatically think,
00:27:58
oh yeah, woke Star Wars, LGBT lesbians made a baby.
00:28:01
Like, you know, you're just like, oh yeah,
00:28:03
they're just using like force alchemy,
00:28:04
like the witches of Dathomir or something like that.
00:28:06
And I'm like, yeah, basically for the most part.
00:28:08
And it was so refreshing to me to talk to
00:28:13
legitimate Star Wars fans who heard that Acolyte
00:28:17
without having seen it.
00:28:18
And they didn't jump to the conclusion of like,
00:28:21
ah yeah, this is just fucking Star Wars,
00:28:23
Disney trying to be woke.
00:28:24
Even if it was like LGBT people can exist
00:28:28
in a galaxy of fucking trillions and it not be woke
00:28:32
cause gay people exist.
00:28:34
Like that's a thing, but they weren't even focusing
00:28:36
on like the gay, it was just a cult of witches.
00:28:40
Which is they literally just said, I gave birth.
00:28:43
And the other one said, I created, that was it.
00:28:46
They weren't making out, they weren't holding hands.
00:28:49
They didn't even seem to like each other that much.
00:28:51
Like, shut the fuck up.
00:28:54
I hate having to explain to people, they're like,
00:28:55
oh, this LGBTQ stuff.
00:28:57
And I'm like, where?
00:28:58
Show me where, show me the LGBTQ, show me the lesbians.
00:29:02
Where are they fucking?
00:29:05
So yeah, it's just, it's criminal to relate,
00:29:09
you know, like back to the topic.
00:29:11
It's just criminal how Star Wars fans
00:29:14
are ruining Star Wars.
00:29:16
Like if anything, it's not the creators,
00:29:18
it's not the content, it's the fans.
00:29:21
And I will no longer get my dream of seeing Plagueis
00:29:25
on screen more in depth.
00:29:27
We might get like a Tales kind of thing.
00:29:29
There's another Tales of the Jedi coming out
00:29:32
towards the end of this year.
00:29:33
I thought it was Tales, is it soon a Tales of the Sith?
00:29:35
Since the last one was Tales of the Empire?
00:29:38
I'm not sure, I think it's a Tales of the Jedi.
00:29:40
It's focusing on Balin.
00:29:42
Oh, I don't give a shit about him.
00:29:43
Yeah. I do, I absolutely do.
00:29:46
Especially since Ahsoka season two is next year, right?
00:29:49
Mm-hmm.
00:29:49
Yeah, it's like midway next year.
00:29:51
Yeah, so I'm excited.
00:29:52
I'm actually excited about that
00:29:54
because I still wanna see where that storyline is going
00:29:57
and if they're gonna pull Aboloth in.
00:29:59
All right, 100%.
00:30:00
I think I understand they're pulling Aboloth in.
00:30:01
I think it's almost guaranteed
00:30:02
that they're pulling Aboloth in.
00:30:04
I'm pretty sure they already said
00:30:06
that they're pulling Aboloth in.
00:30:08
We all know Dave Filoni.
00:30:09
Like as soon as they show the fucking,
00:30:11
the father and the brother, they're pulling Aboloth in.
00:30:14
I want my Starkiller.
00:30:15
Filoni, Starkiller, please.
00:30:17
Sam Witwer, Starkiller.
00:30:19
We also have to see who they recast for Balin.
00:30:21
Sam Witwer is also like still young enough
00:30:25
to where they could cast him for live action Starkiller.
00:30:27
I have a Starkiller boner
00:30:28
the same way Xotic has his clone boner.
00:30:31
I enjoy Starkiller.
00:30:32
I love the Force Unleashed games.
00:30:34
I know, it's our namesake too.
00:30:35
I like Mando's.
00:30:39
Do you like X-Wings?
00:30:41
I like X-Wings.
00:30:46
All right guys, thanks for chilling with us.
00:30:48
This has been the Force Unscripted
00:30:50
with your boys Nikkada, Winchy and Xotic
00:30:53
and our ever present support Brick3PO.
00:30:56
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00:30:58
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00:31:00
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00:31:02
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00:31:11
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00:31:14
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00:31:16
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00:31:21
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00:31:22
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00:31:23
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00:31:24
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00:31:25
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00:31:30
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00:31:31
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