Join The Force Unscripted in our first episode of the second season! This show's topic is "The Golden Age of Star Wars Video Games".
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I only called him Hunter once this video.
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I'm proud of myself and I can edit that one out.
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So are you proud of me?
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During the actual recording, you never called him Hunter.
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Yeah, okay.
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But like it took me a while to be able to do that though.
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I have to like think about it before I do it.
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It's not conscious yet.
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I believe you need to worry.
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Yeah, I just call him Big Tree and then it's fine.
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Big Tree.
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I'm Big Tree.
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That's why I changed my name to Big Tree in my own server.
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Those that don't know,
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Nikita's Mandalorian name is Ori Veshok, which is Big Tree.
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It's because I got big hair.
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A big tree.
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I do love being a big tree.
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You think this hair is easy to maintain?
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I mean, you wake up like that.
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I woke up like this.
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Well, I woke up like this.
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Hey everyone and may the force be with you.
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Nikita here back with our new season.
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It is season two.
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We've got the whole squad here
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and we are going to be debuting our boy Exotic.
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You may have heard him on the force facts episodes
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that we've been dropping on our little hiatus.
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And so you've got a little taste of his,
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well, I wouldn't say knowledge
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because he ain't got no brain cells,
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but you know, you got a taste of his voice at least.
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He do sound pretty crisp.
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I will say that, but Exotic is here.
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He is going to give us just a little introduction
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on himself, Exotic, take it away.
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What's up?
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My name's Exotic.
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You know, my knowledge in Star Wars
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kind of just based around like video games.
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It's like my favorite thing to talk about and Disney canon.
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It's kind of stuff that I grew up watching.
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Other than that, I'm probably the biggest
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Nikita hater around.
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There's a couple of contenders,
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but definitely still at least top three.
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Fuck both of you.
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That being said though,
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today's topic is going to be the golden age
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of Star Wars video games.
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Exotic, we gave him point on picking the topic
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for his debut episode.
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And since this is the first episode of season two,
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we're going to basically kind of give him the reins
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for most of the show.
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And then, you know, just kind of add our asshole
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slash jackass inputs to the stuff that he has to say.
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But we're basically going to be talking about
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the Star Wars games from like the period of like 2000
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to like 2012 or so,
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cause that's like when the old Republic was released.
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And I think that that was probably like the end
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of what we would all consider
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like the golden age of Star Wars games.
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Not that we have anything against like the,
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well, we do have stuff against the specific games
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that have come out after that period,
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but for the most part,
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video games, video games, video games.
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So first thing I want to talk is like
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just probably the pinnacle of Star Wars games,
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like Couture 2, probably in my opinion,
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the best Star Wars game that has come out to date.
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I mean like between the story, gameplay,
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and just all around lore aspect of it.
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It's just absolutely insane in my opinion.
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See, that's one of my,
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that's what I like about this period of games is like,
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for the most part, gameplay is pretty good.
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Definitely graphics wise,
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like not as great as anything that's been released since,
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but lore is what really gets me.
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I mean, y'all know me, I love to read books and shit,
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but I really do enjoy the lore aspect.
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I don't think I,
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I don't rate Couture 2 nearly as high as you do,
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but like if I group Couture's together,
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then I definitely consider that like,
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at least in my top five for sure.
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Don't know about my top three.
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But you know, to be fair,
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I've only ever read the synopsis of Couture 2.
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I haven't actually played it.
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Played Couture 1 was absolutely shocked shitless
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when I found out that you were playing Revan the entire time.
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Did not see that coming.
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And just for those of you who like have played like Couture,
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I didn't play it when it was released
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or even close to release.
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I played Couture for the first time in like 2020,
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right when COVID started.
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I was like, oh, you know, I might as well play this.
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So what was the gameplay like for like people
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that might not have heard of it or played it before?
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So Couture 2, it was like almost like a turn-based like RPG
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because like you were pretty much just going through
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kinda like semi-open world, you know,
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they had to stay within their technical limits back then,
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but it was pretty much just open world turn-based combat.
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That was like the biggest thing,
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but I really played it for the story just cause you know,
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Nihilus is by far the best Sith Lord out there,
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so you can't really beat him.
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That's highly debatable.
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Very highly debatable.
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I mean, dude literally just sucks an entire room dry
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of fucking them.
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So you're telling me you like when dudes suck
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other things dry?
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Is that what I'm getting from this?
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That's exactly what I-
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No, I was trying to put it in words to make you intrigued.
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Oh, uh-huh, sure.
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That's what they all say.
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Nah, man, you just straight up admitted
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that your favorite Sith Lord of all time
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is a guy who just sucks things off and you love that.
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Go ahead, we know.
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No, I'm pretty sure.
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I was just like I said, I was putting it in terms
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just so you know, you could relate to it at least.
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You're saying you don't like the fact
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that he sucks things off.
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No, that's like his whole character design is, you know,
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absorbing the living force from other beings around him
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and feeding off of that power.
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So even though it's the major part of his character design,
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it's not something that you endorse?
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I mean, he can do whatever he wants in his pastime,
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but like I don't judge.
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Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
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I mean, you got Nihilus and Sion.
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I mean, both of them are just, you know,
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pretty high up on the tier list
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when it comes to strength, in my opinion.
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Okay, strength I could give you.
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Character wise, I don't know about that one.
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I feel like there are so many Sith Lords
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that are just like better at being Sith Lords than them.
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I mean, Sion actually perfected, you know,
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well, I wouldn't say perfected,
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actually achieved immortality.
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Dude's just holding his entire body together
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just with the Force.
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I mean, what about Valkorion?
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He's immortal.
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What was his, what was his, this galaxy's name?
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Vishit, Darth Vishit.
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Mm, you'll have to remind me on Darth Vishit.
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Vishit is the emperor of the like, the Sith Empire,
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like from the- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, I knew that, yeah, I knew that name sounded familiar.
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I just couldn't put a face to the name.
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He's the one that kills Revan.
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He doesn't really kill Revan though, does he?
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Like he like- Yeah, Revan gets out
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and then like, don't they fight again?
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And then he kills him.
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Maybe, I know he locks up Revan for like 300 years,
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literally, well, okay, not to bring back the Nihilus point,
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but he's literally sucking Revan off
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for like 300 years to take his power and shit.
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I thought he eventually killed him.
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I know, I know Revan's kid.
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Maybe he killed Revan's kid.
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He definitely killed at least one of the Revan line.
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I think so, but I don't think it was actually Revan.
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I haven't finished the entire end game
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of the Old Republic yet.
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I know you end up fighting Revan again
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when like Vishit is Valkorion and they enter the galaxy
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to take over with the Eternal Empire,
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or whatever it's called, but like, I don't know.
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I think a group of Jedi with-
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Fuck, what's that other Sith Lord's name?
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I use his armor in TOR.
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He like teams up, like the Sith and the Jedi team up
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to take out Vishit and Revan.
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It was the Jedi, and I know Talon was a part of it as well,
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Darth Talon, but they like team up and be like,
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hey, this guy's fucking maniac and going crazy.
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Let's fucking take this dude out.
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And then he quote unquote dies,
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but he kind of just becomes part of the living force
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as like a spirit, and then he comes back at some point.
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You know, I know you're not into Star Wars
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as much as we are, Bonk Bonk,
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but I think you might actually enjoy Kotor to some degree
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because of how much you like D&D.
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It's very much like a D&D-esque game for sure.
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Like it's turn-based, but like a lot of the stats and stuff
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are very similar to a D&D playthrough.
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I do love me some turn-based games.
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It's worth doing, like playing, trying it.
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Like I didn't think I was gonna like it for sure,
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but I fell in love with it.
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It was a little hard for me to get used to
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because the movement is kind of weird,
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but it's basically just like,
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if your stat check beats their stat check
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and you hit the roll, you win.
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Like I said, it's very much a D&D-esque game.
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Yeah, plus you get all the fun and quirky side characters
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that can join your party along the way.
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Like my favorite, the sarcastic robot HK.
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Oh, we love me some HK 47, me bag.
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I love HK.
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HK is probably like for sure,
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like top three droids of all time for me and Star Wars.
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Love me some HK.
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Oh yeah, for sure.
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So, well, we know that Exotic is Kotor too.
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Winshee, what about you?
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What's your top Star Wars game from that era?
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I don't know what you're gonna say, goddammit.
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Well, of course I'm gonna say Republic Commando.
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You know me with my all my Mando shit.
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Look, man, it's always and will forever be Republic Commando.
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If I had played Bounty Hunter, it might've been skewed.
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There might've been a little bit of a toss up there,
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but I've only played a few games from that era.
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One being Jedi Starfighter, which I mean,
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is not that great.
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And then like the Lego games and Kotor on the iPad,
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which I don't think that really counts.
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And then- No, it counts.
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Republic Commando.
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I'm like, I'm jealous of you two to like some degree
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because like when it comes to Kotor, Republic Commando,
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and Lego, like I didn't play those
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until well into my adulthood.
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Like I did my first playthrough of Republic Commando
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in like 2019.
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I did my first playthrough of Kotor in 2020.
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And then I didn't play the Legos until 2021
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when Brick3PO gifted me the Lego Skywalker Sagas.
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So like I didn't get to play those in like the years
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when I, like my formative years,
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but like I still love them.
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And I know I would have loved them when I was younger too.
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So I love comedy.
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Like I love to laugh, even though,
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even though Exotic thinks that I'm not funny,
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even though I'm fucking hilarious.
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I still, comedy and Star Wars together in the Lego games
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was like peak Star Wars for me.
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So I actually, I loved getting to play through the Lego set
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for the first time, but yeah,
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I didn't get to do those through my formative years.
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Wang Wang, do you have any like Star Wars games of note
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that you love?
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I feel like you were probably a Lego Star Wars player.
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Lego Star Wars on the Game Boy Advance.
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My only issue though was my brain was too small
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and I had no idea what was going on.
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So you were just playing it because it was Legos.
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Yep.
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Did you do any of the other like Lego series games
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like the Harry Potter and stuff?
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I did not because I'm pretty sure I lost my Game Boy
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not soon after I got the Lego Star Wars.
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Did you do, was it on Game Boy or Game Boy Advance
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or Game Boy Advance SP?
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Game Boy Advance SP, I definitely lost
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the Game Boy Advance SP.
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I don't think I had a Game Boy Advance
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like the long flat one.
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I never had one of those.
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And then I think like for the most part,
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you guys can guess what my like favorite one is.
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I mean, like the names, it's the namesake
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of the podcast, right?
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Like, so the Force Unleashed was definitely
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like my favorite thing.
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And it's just, it was a lot that I got to do in that game
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because I like the hack and slash style games
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where I just, I am a character, I'm overpowered,
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I run in, I walk you down, I spray you with force lightning
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and then just kind of watch the cut scenes in between
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and enjoy myself when there's not a cut scene.
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So like the Force Unleashed was definitely like peak for me.
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And I also loved the story of Galen Starkiller,
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whatever you want to call him.
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And it's one of the, that game, I played on the PS2
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and that shit had me shook.
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Now, the one thing that I was pissed off about
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is that like for the PlayStation players,
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you couldn't get the black lightsaber.
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I think it was either Xbox or Xbox and Wii,
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like they could get the black lightsaber crystal,
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but you couldn't on PlayStation.
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I was like, this is fucked, but I still love the story.
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I also loved, I actually, as a game,
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I like Force Unleashed 2 more than the first one,
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only because like, you know, you have some like
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Starkiller background to go off of
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and then you actually play the game and you're like,
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ah, they're continuing from the first game.
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But what I found out recently is that for Force Unleashed 2,
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both of those games, and I think that those are the only games
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outside of like some of the old Republic that have books,
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the novelizations for Force Unleashed is canon to Legends,
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but Force Unleashed 2 is non-canon to Legends.
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So the story of Force Unleashed 2,
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even though there's a novelization for it,
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it's in the book timeline,
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it's not technically canon to that timeline,
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even though all of Legends is no longer canon period,
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but I thought that that was an interesting thing
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that I found out recently and I was like,
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oh, hmm, didn't know that.
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But Force Unleashed, definitely like my top one.
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The cutscenes in Force Unleashed 2,
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or probably some of my favorite cutscenes
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in some Star Wars games, just like, you know,
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seeing the cloned Galen Marek just kind of yeet Vader
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through like eight walls on Kamino,
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that was kind of a very great scene in my opinion.
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Yes, yeah, and the other scene from Force Unleashed 2
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is when he's like, they're like in the jungle
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or something, he's surrounded by like a bunch of,
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a bunch of storm troopers,
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and then he does like the force like explosion,
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like the shockwave and they just get like disintegrated.
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I was like, oh, this shit is dope.
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But I think if we're talking about cutscenes in general,
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especially from that period,
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I think that it's the last one from that period,
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literally on the cutoff year,
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but the Old Republic best cutscenes in all of Star Wars,
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actually, you know what?
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I wouldn't even say all of Star Wars games.
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I would just say all of Star Wars media as of now.
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Like I don't think that there is any scene
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besides maybe like the Anakin scene from Ahsoka
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that like beat that as far as like a cutscene goes.
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Like I think that the cinematics for the Old Republic
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are some of the best to have,
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or actually are the best to have ever been produced
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by, you know, Star Wars.
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Yeah, I think if I could just gather all the people
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that worked on those like cinematic trailers
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and everything like that,
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just to make a movie animated or like live action,
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I feel like it would be like the pinnacle
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of like anything Star Wars that has come out
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in the past like 20 decades.
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Absolutely, they could make a movie,
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they could make animated series,
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and even like, it was just, I need it done.
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Those things age so well, like they're what?
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Almost, they're 12 years old now, they age so well.
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They were ahead of their time.
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Yeah, just the cinematography and, you know,
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the saber fights in there were fucking amazing.
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Like the, fuck, it was what?
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Malgus versus the steel and her master,
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and then Malgus's old master, I can't remember his name,
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fucking red guy, fuck, what was his name?
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Oh, Vindican, right?
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Like Malgus and Vindican?
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Yeah.
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And it was Satele, and I always forget
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the person she was with, it's like Khao something,
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Khao Sindarik, something like that?
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Sounds right, yeah, yeah, Khao Sindarik.
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Yeah.
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What was his, he was, what's the, he was Zabrik,
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he was a Zabrik, right?
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Yeah, pointy head motherfuckers.
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But that's by far one of my favorite saber duels
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in all of Star Wars that's been showed on screen.
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It's like actual pinnacle.
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So, Exotic, I have a question.
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So you mentioned Kotor, and you know,
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when she mentioned Republic Commando,
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I mentioned Forced Unleashed.
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What other games of note do you like from that period?
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Do you think that are like, hold the, hold, you know,
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at least partial helm for like,
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greatest Star Wars game of all time?
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Probably not one of the greatest Star Wars games,
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because it has its good and bad takes.
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I mean, I feel like just the Clone Wars game that came out,
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it was fucking always like bundled with fucking Tetris,
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that's how I remember it.
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There's just a vehicle combat game
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that kind of just holds a place in my heart,
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just from the kind of nostalgia factor of it.
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It was just, in my opinion, such a fun game
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for what it was and when it came out.
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Because I mean, like, you get to go around
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just fucking blowing shit up in a Republic gunship,
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a Republic fighter tank,
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like that's like some of the most fun things just to do.
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And there was even, you could just walk around
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this fucking Mace Windu,
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just completely blowing up to the oceans,
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because like the body physics in that game was so hilarious.
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I love games with some good ragdolling.
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That's like some of my favorite shit.
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So that's why I'm enjoying Assassin's Creed right now,
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because those bodies just be fucking flying.
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Yeah, so it's not even like ragdolling,
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it's just like you hit them with your lightsaber
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and like their arms, legs, wings,
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just like explode, they fucking pop off, it's hilarious.
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See, I never played that one.
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It's definitely a game I recommend,
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like everyone playing just at least once.
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What about you, Winchie?
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You got any other games from that period,
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besides Bounty Hunter and Republic Commando of note?
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I played the Star Wars Lego prequel trilogy game a lot.
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I played that game so much.
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I like a hundred percented everything on that game as a kid.
00:16:16
I loved playing as Lego, Lego Star Wars anything.
00:16:18
Back then, I liked lightsabers more than I do now,
00:16:21
but I was still like tending towards playing
00:16:23
as the clone troopers for everything.
00:16:24
So I would always do the, or like replay the missions
00:16:28
where you specifically needed to be clone troopers,
00:16:30
because that's all I wanted to do.
00:16:33
And I would unlock like every single one,
00:16:34
and I would play dress up as a little freaking clone trooper
00:16:37
and all my different colors.
00:16:39
I think they had like 12 different clone trooper colors
00:16:42
in that game at least.
00:16:43
Yeah, I'm right there with you.
00:16:44
Like my brother was always like big into playing
00:16:47
as like the Jedi's and like Mace Windu
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was one of his that he always went to.
00:16:50
Like I could just not stray away from either being
00:16:53
a clone trooper or Jango Fett in those old games.
00:16:55
Cause I mean, like you can't beat Jango Fett,
00:16:57
you just get to fly one of the fucking jet pack
00:16:59
and tool blasters and that just always attracted me.
00:17:01
Man, you guys just-
00:17:02
Technically you can beat him if he gets run over
00:17:04
by a rhinoceros monster and then his jet pack breaks
00:17:08
and then he gets his hand cut off
00:17:09
and then he gets his head cut off.
00:17:11
That's how you beat him.
00:17:12
But like, I hear what you're saying.
00:17:14
You guys have clone wars slash Mandalorian boners.
00:17:17
Yes.
00:17:18
Wait, wait, hold on.
00:17:19
You guys wanna hear a actual like,
00:17:23
you wanna hear the audio manifestation of a boner?
00:17:26
Here you go.
00:17:27
Oh.
00:17:29
Oh.
00:17:30
His reaction to that sound every time
00:17:34
just makes me fucking giggle.
00:17:36
Oh, the other game of note that I wanted to mention
00:17:40
from that time period that I also enjoyed,
00:17:44
not from like a gameplay aspect, I guess,
00:17:47
but again, from a lore aspect was the Jedi Academy series,
00:17:52
like with Kyle Katarn and stuff like that.
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Cause like that game made me fall in love
00:17:56
with Kyle Katarn's lightsaber design.
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And that's why I picked one up for myself.
00:18:00
Oh yeah, the Jedi Outcasts
00:18:02
where you actually play as Kyle Katarn was a great game.
00:18:05
But I feel like Jedi Knight Academy
00:18:07
was kind of like them perfecting it almost.
00:18:10
They still had like great saber combat in there.
00:18:12
And I mean, you can't really beat
00:18:14
just having your lightsaber out and walking up to an enemy
00:18:17
and just not even swinging it.
00:18:19
And then just completely just getting disintegrated
00:18:21
just because of the physics of the game.
00:18:23
So we've talked about like the golden age, obviously.
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So before we move on from that,
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so from that period, what are your top three exotic?
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Probably Knights of the Old Republic 2,
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Public Commando, then the Clone Wars game
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just because of nostalgia
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and just has a special place in my heart.
00:18:41
So before I ask Winshee what his is,
00:18:43
why don't you rate Kotor like the first one in any event?
00:18:47
I have a, you know, I really love fucking Nihilus.
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So that's one reason why Kotor 2 is up there.
00:18:54
Just regular Kotor, I didn't play it as much as Kotor 2
00:18:57
because, you know, I'm not that old.
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So kind of first played Kotor 2
00:19:02
and then went back and played regular Kotor.
00:19:04
So I guess it doesn't really have as much nostalgia
00:19:07
and like kind of doesn't really catch my eye
00:19:09
as much as Kotor 2 did.
00:19:10
Okay, that's fair.
00:19:11
See, I'm the exact opposite.
00:19:13
I only played Kotor, I haven't done two yet,
00:19:15
but I will do two soon.
00:19:16
I'm gonna drag you in to play it with me.
00:19:18
So I get, you know, like the easy play through.
00:19:21
Yeah, I'm always down to do play throughs.
00:19:22
It's so much fun.
00:19:23
What about you Winshee, what are your top three?
00:19:25
My top three are Republic Commando, of course.
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I love my boy, my boy Sev and-
00:19:31
Poor Sev.
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Poor guy.
00:19:33
I like the Lego Star Wars game
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and probably Kotor after that, I played on the iPad,
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but there was one game I also played,
00:19:42
like I said, Jedi Starfighter.
00:19:44
You played as like a N1, like a Nibu N1 Starfighter
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and you just like shot stuff down.
00:19:50
It was a fun game.
00:19:51
It was really hard for me as a kid.
00:19:52
I could never like beat the third or fourth level.
00:19:54
I was bad at flying spaceships back then.
00:19:57
It's a much different story nowadays, but yeah.
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Okay.
00:20:00
And then I can assume that all three of Bachbach's choices
00:20:03
are gonna be one of the Lego Star Wars games.
00:20:05
Did you play more than one Lego Star Wars?
00:20:07
Did you play just one Lego Star Wars?
00:20:10
Pretty sure it was just one.
00:20:11
So he doesn't even have three options to choose from.
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He's just got Lego Star Wars.
00:20:15
Hell yeah.
00:20:16
Do you remember which one it was?
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I don't.
00:20:18
I remember playing as R2-D2, so,
00:20:21
because I think I got stuck on that level.
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So probably something from the prequels then.
00:20:25
Pretty sure the only one that came out on Game Boy
00:20:27
was like the complete one
00:20:29
that came with the prequels and the sequels.
00:20:31
Yeah, the Clone Wars game came out for the 3DS,
00:20:35
but I think the only one for the DS or the Game Boy
00:20:39
was the complete one.
00:20:40
My top three would be obviously,
00:20:44
I'll group the Force Unleashes together.
00:20:45
So those two are like my number one.
00:20:48
My number two is for sure The Old Republic,
00:20:50
just because like, again,
00:20:51
I feel like I rate lore and content more than gameplay
00:20:55
when it comes to Star Wars games,
00:20:57
just because of how I am with like information.
00:20:59
So definitely The Old Republic will be my number two.
00:21:02
And then my number three will be Kotor,
00:21:03
because nothing will ever,
00:21:05
like I was genuinely shook when I found out
00:21:08
that you're Revan at the end.
00:21:09
Like I remember streaming it on my Twitch channel
00:21:12
and playing and I was like,
00:21:14
holy shit, I've been Revan this entire time.
00:21:17
I had no clue.
00:21:18
I had no, everyone was like,
00:21:19
you didn't know yet?
00:21:20
You're a Star Wars fan, you couldn't assume that?
00:21:22
No, no fuckers, I couldn't assume that.
00:21:25
That shit still has me shook.
00:21:26
Definitely was a pretty big bomb show
00:21:28
whenever they dropped out at the end.
00:21:29
But still, I mean, like it's great story just from Kotor 1.
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And it pretty much just shows what Star Wars games can be.
00:21:37
And they just haven't been showing that in recent games.
00:21:40
And that's a good segue into like the next port.
00:21:42
So how do you feel about,
00:21:45
I know like we've kind of like dubbed that period of time
00:21:48
as like the golden age.
00:21:50
How do you feel about the games now?
00:21:52
Because like I have a bunch of mixed feelings about it,
00:21:55
but I'm curious as to what you think about them.
00:21:56
So I'm not a big like Souls type of game,
00:21:59
like Souls gameplay type of guy.
00:22:01
I mean, it's just not my cup of tea, really.
00:22:04
Retweet.
00:22:05
I mean, like those, like, you know, graphics wise,
00:22:09
the games look amazing.
00:22:10
Story wise, they're pretty good,
00:22:12
but I don't think, I feel like they've kind of just
00:22:14
focused more on the graphics and the gameplay of the game
00:22:16
and didn't really delve too deep into the lore
00:22:19
and the backstory of, you know,
00:22:21
Cal Kestis and stuff like that.
00:22:23
Like it doesn't go as deep as a dive
00:22:26
as like the older games like Kotor and stuff like that.
00:22:28
Yeah, I could definitely agree with that.
00:22:30
I'm also like, I screamed, retweet earlier,
00:22:32
but like I'm of the same mind when it comes to
00:22:35
the Souls like stuff.
00:22:36
I, like I said, I like hack and slash.
00:22:38
I want to just run forward, mow you down,
00:22:41
spray you with lightning,
00:22:42
and then go on to like the next portion of the map.
00:22:44
But like, if I have to spend mental power
00:22:47
on parrying, dodging, all that shit, fuck that.
00:22:51
Dude, fuck that.
00:22:52
I just want to fucking run forward with a lightsaber
00:22:54
and just kill you.
00:22:55
But I will still.
00:22:58
I mean, absolutely is a skill issue.
00:23:00
No, I fucking suck.
00:23:01
The amount of times I died and fall in order is,
00:23:03
like I died so much and fall in order,
00:23:06
and I was so pissed off for spending my money to having to,
00:23:09
like for spending my money to have to die that much,
00:23:11
that I just, I did not play Survivor,
00:23:14
the sequel to the game.
00:23:15
Like I was just like, yeah, I'm not, I'll watch it.
00:23:17
I'll watch other people play it.
00:23:18
I'll watch other people suffer.
00:23:19
I ain't finna do this shit.
00:23:21
Nah, nope.
00:23:22
And then Squadrons was, eh.
00:23:24
I feel the same way about the like the new battlefront,
00:23:27
but at least I feel like that one has the best
00:23:30
playability for me.
00:23:32
But I still feel like, oh, you know what?
00:23:33
And we completely, I just completely forgot about,
00:23:35
we completely like glance over the OG Battlefront 2.
00:23:39
That is definitely, I don't think it makes my top three,
00:23:41
but for sure my top five.
00:23:43
Oh, I should have put that as my number one or number two.
00:23:47
I was being silly.
00:23:48
Forget the Lego game.
00:23:50
Forget KOTOR, Battlefront 2.
00:23:52
Did you?
00:23:52
The Lego game?
00:23:53
Put the Lego game number three.
00:23:56
We're putting Battlefront 2 as number two.
00:23:59
Maybe even number one on a good day.
00:24:02
Battlefront 2 will always live,
00:24:04
like it has like, it will always shine bright
00:24:07
in my memories because, so just to give you guys
00:24:09
like a little, a little Nikita lore.
00:24:12
So my best friend in middle school was,
00:24:16
so our middle school had this thing called the bench.
00:24:18
And if you're on the bench,
00:24:19
it was basically like a perma detention sort of.
00:24:23
And so he was on the bench and we had this English teacher
00:24:26
named Mr. Conaway and that man is the nerdiest nerd
00:24:30
that has ever nerded ever.
00:24:32
And we, he knew how much I liked Star Wars
00:24:35
cause I would always have my books
00:24:36
and I would be reading them.
00:24:38
And he was a big Star Wars fan and Dennis,
00:24:40
Dennis was a Star Wars fan,
00:24:42
but not like a Star Wars lover,
00:24:43
like me and Mr. Conaway were.
00:24:45
And so we had this thing and he made a deal with Dennis
00:24:49
where it was like, for if you can do like all your homework,
00:24:51
get a whole bunch of checks for,
00:24:54
I think it was either a whole week or two weeks,
00:24:56
then after school one day,
00:24:58
we can go to Mr. Conaway's like English classroom
00:25:01
and like have pizza.
00:25:03
Like I brought my lightsaber
00:25:04
so we could fight with the lightsabers
00:25:05
and I brought my PS2 so we could play Battlefront 2.
00:25:08
So there was like, we finally got to do it.
00:25:11
We played Battlefront 2 with my English,
00:25:14
my eighth grade English teacher.
00:25:15
And it was just, it was the best time ever
00:25:18
because like me and Dennis were like good at video games,
00:25:21
but we did not think that some man,
00:25:23
I think Mr. Conaway was probably in like his like,
00:25:25
like late 20s, early 30s at that point.
00:25:28
And he was just dumpstering us in the combat,
00:25:31
but it was so much fun.
00:25:33
That game was great.
00:25:34
The narration was fantastic.
00:25:36
The gameplay was awesome.
00:25:38
The lore was good.
00:25:39
That was a good game.
00:25:40
I feel like they did not do that game justice
00:25:43
when they like made the new Battlefront.
00:25:45
It's just, it doesn't need to be named Battlefront.
00:25:47
I feel like they have not,
00:25:49
I want to say ruin the Battlefront name,
00:25:50
but they definitely didn't do it justice.
00:25:53
From a combat perspective,
00:25:56
I think they did it justice.
00:25:58
The actual gameplay of Battlefront 2 is very good.
00:26:01
The shooting, the animations, the heroes,
00:26:05
all of that is really good.
00:26:07
The problem with Battlefront 2
00:26:08
was like the EA application of it
00:26:11
where it's just little micro transactions
00:26:13
and the game service is like not being supported
00:26:17
the way it should.
00:26:18
And they just kind of like dumped it in your hands
00:26:20
and they're like, all right, we're done.
00:26:23
Well, this will make money.
00:26:24
They don't actually like care about the product,
00:26:26
but they do have a lot of content in there
00:26:28
that you can play.
00:26:29
Unfortunately, nowadays,
00:26:30
like even though it's not that old of a game,
00:26:33
it's like full of hackers and whatnot.
00:26:35
So it's not really worth playing
00:26:36
if you actually want to have a good time.
00:26:37
You might as well just play
00:26:39
the Galactic Contention mod for Squad
00:26:41
and get a real fun experience like I discovered.
00:26:44
Look, man, I played it last night.
00:26:46
It was so amazing.
00:26:48
Those orbital bombardments actually were terrifying.
00:26:51
I felt like I was in a war zone,
00:26:52
but it was all clones and droids, man.
00:26:55
I was watching him play that.
00:26:56
It was great.
00:26:57
No, it actually looks like a great,
00:26:58
it's definitely all over my head
00:27:00
and definitely above my skill cap,
00:27:01
but like it was actually really fun to watch
00:27:04
because it was pretty cool.
00:27:05
What I'm hearing is we're all downloading it
00:27:07
and going to play it, right?
00:27:08
Because I've never played it before.
00:27:10
Yes, play with me.
00:27:11
We could all get it.
00:27:13
We could stream to the Forza Scripted's new Twitch channel.
00:27:18
Yeah, we should, we should do that.
00:27:19
Oh yeah.
00:27:20
What's the name of the game?
00:27:21
Squad, but it's a mod for Squad called Galactic Contention
00:27:24
that remade literally the entire video game
00:27:27
to make it 100% Star Wars.
00:27:29
How much does it cost?
00:27:30
It was like 50 bucks for the Squad game.
00:27:32
50 fucking, you're gifting it to me, right?
00:27:35
We'll see.
00:27:36
If you're actually gonna play with me,
00:27:37
I get to do that other game
00:27:38
and you still haven't played it with me much.
00:27:40
Okay, but I've been trying to.
00:27:42
You can't say there hasn't been effort on my part.
00:27:44
Ah, ah, ah.
00:27:47
Ah.
00:27:48
Ah.
00:27:51
But yeah, no, okay.
00:27:52
I see what you're saying about Battlefront.
00:27:54
You know, to be honest with you,
00:27:56
I only put about maybe four to five hours into that
00:28:00
because it just wasn't what I wanted at the time, I guess.
00:28:04
I feel like Squadrons had a good premise,
00:28:06
but the execution was bad.
00:28:07
And then they released it free, so for free.
00:28:10
So that like confirmed it for me,
00:28:11
cause like, I don't know,
00:28:12
like I feel like the other Star Wars games
00:28:14
that were really good have never been offered for free.
00:28:16
So see, I think Squadron was actually okay.
00:28:20
Like the flying was pretty decent.
00:28:23
It's not amazing, but it is like Star Wars flying.
00:28:26
The online like is pretty good.
00:28:30
And the story actually like shows you what happens
00:28:33
during Operation Cinder.
00:28:35
So you actually get the context for why Jakku
00:28:38
looks the way it looks in A Force Awakens,
00:28:41
why there's Star Destroyers and whatnot, you know,
00:28:44
just lying across the surface of that planet.
00:28:46
It goes into depth into that.
00:28:47
So it does actually have story elements
00:28:49
that are crucial to canon,
00:28:52
like knowledge or timeline and whatnot.
00:28:54
That might be what puts me off then,
00:28:55
because I'm not saying that it's like canon timeline
00:28:59
is bad or anything.
00:29:00
I just haven't done anything into it
00:29:03
besides movie slash show media for it.
00:29:07
Cause I've been so obsessed
00:29:08
with just finishing the legend stuff.
00:29:11
I think I'm like 87, 88% done with that timeline.
00:29:13
I've only got less than 20 books left to read.
00:29:16
So I think that that may be why,
00:29:18
I think maybe my opinion of it might change
00:29:21
once I start delving into reading more canon,
00:29:26
you know, information and lore and stuff.
00:29:29
Maybe then it might pique my interest.
00:29:30
But for right now, like if I had to give that game
00:29:32
a rating out of 10, it'd be like a five and a half six.
00:29:35
And the game from what I played it for like maybe an hour,
00:29:38
but I'm not a big simulator kind of guy.
00:29:39
That's basically what it is.
00:29:40
It's just a flight simulator, just Star Wars-ified.
00:29:43
But I definitely get like the story aspects
00:29:45
that you could go after.
00:29:47
See, and I'm a, I love-
00:29:49
Oh, so can you use your setup with that?
00:29:51
Yes, I do use my setup with that.
00:29:53
Oh, see, okay.
00:29:54
So for those of you who don't know,
00:29:55
Winchie's setup is actually fucking insane.
00:29:58
Like I'm jealous of it.
00:29:59
He has like the front of his computer,
00:30:01
like where he sits at his desk
00:30:03
actually looks like the inside a Starship.
00:30:05
Like it's crazy.
00:30:06
Yeah, I have a, specifically for squadrons,
00:30:09
my throttle and my right stick functions perfectly
00:30:12
for that game.
00:30:12
Can you do like the head tracking and stuff for that too?
00:30:14
Yeah.
00:30:15
Oh yeah, see, that's dope.
00:30:16
That does VR.
00:30:17
He has a setup to where like if he turns his head,
00:30:19
so will the character in the game.
00:30:20
Like I watch him play Star Citizen sometime
00:30:23
and that is, fuck, it's,
00:30:25
I typically don't like watching someone else play video games
00:30:29
unless like, you know, like content, cut scenes
00:30:31
and that kind of stuff.
00:30:32
But I will sit there and I will watch him play that game
00:30:34
just because it looks so cool to see him
00:30:36
with his joystick controllers
00:30:38
and all the fucking flips and buttons.
00:30:40
I will sit at his desk and just fucking hit buttons
00:30:43
for like five minutes,
00:30:44
just with this fucking smile on my face,
00:30:46
like I'm a fucking gremlin.
00:30:47
He do, he's done it.
00:30:48
It's happened, I watched it
00:30:49
and it's definitely a gremlin smile.
00:30:52
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
00:30:53
I've been living my best life when I sit at your computer.
00:30:56
If I'm not fucking, he'll leave his discord open
00:30:59
and I'll go and I'll just start messaging
00:31:01
shit in other servers.
00:31:03
Ha ha ha ha ha.
00:31:04
He's a menace, I can't like leave him alone
00:31:06
for 30 freaking seconds.
00:31:08
He's finally learned to lock his computer.
00:31:10
The last time he did, I went and I was trying to like,
00:31:12
he had walked out of his room
00:31:13
and like I walked right past him and I tried to go in
00:31:16
and like message him and I fucked up
00:31:18
and I hit my knee under the like the little small platform
00:31:21
that holds one of his joysticks and I hit my knee so bad.
00:31:24
I thought that like my kneecap got dented.
00:31:26
It hurts so bad, I cried.
00:31:27
Hard metal man, you spin the chair
00:31:29
and you slam right into it.
00:31:30
I've done it so many times.
00:31:32
Shit fucking hurts.
00:31:34
It do.
00:31:34
All right, Xali, did you have anything else
00:31:36
you wanted to add video games wise?
00:31:38
Not that I can really think of at the moment.
00:31:40
I think that that period of time was great
00:31:44
for Star Wars games, especially for our generation,
00:31:47
millennials specifically.
00:31:48
I just feel like the games these days
00:31:52
have not necessarily been targeted at millennials,
00:31:55
if that makes sense.
00:31:56
One thing that, and Winxy is the one
00:31:58
who made me aware of this,
00:31:59
was when episode nine was coming out,
00:32:01
the somehow Palpatine has returned, the infamous scene,
00:32:04
you know, like it was dropped in Fortnite,
00:32:06
which I feel like some millennials,
00:32:07
like people closer to our age
00:32:08
towards the end of the millennial generation
00:32:10
would play stuff like Fortnite,
00:32:12
like I play Fortnite occasionally,
00:32:13
but I feel like most millennials don't.
00:32:15
It's like a definitely like a Gen Z zoomer type of game.
00:32:18
I think I understand to try to appeal
00:32:19
to your younger audience,
00:32:21
but the people who love Star Wars the most right now
00:32:25
are not the older old crowd,
00:32:27
the people who had the originals,
00:32:28
like were alive for the original releases.
00:32:30
And it's not necessarily the younger crowd either,
00:32:34
because I feel like,
00:32:34
I mean, Bonk Bonk said it one episode too,
00:32:36
is they kind of missed on the younger generation too.
00:32:40
They needed to hit the group
00:32:41
that was in love with Hayden Christensen and McGregor
00:32:45
for their roles as Obi and Annie.
00:32:47
And I feel they didn't hit that.
00:32:49
And you can even see Hayden Christensen reprise his role
00:32:53
as Anakin slash Darth Vader for the Kenobi series.
00:32:55
Like the amount of love that he got from millennials
00:32:59
compared to the hate that he got
00:33:01
from the generations older than us
00:33:03
when the prequels came out was just the juxtaposition
00:33:06
between those two moments in Star Wars history was phenomenal.
00:33:09
Yeah, well, first off, we're not all millennials here.
00:33:11
All right, I'm definitely not a millennial.
00:33:13
You're not a Zoomer either though.
00:33:15
You're in that weird in between, just like Hunter is.
00:33:16
No, I'm Gen Z.
00:33:18
Oh, he's a Zoomer.
00:33:19
Oh, you're a Zoomer?
00:33:20
24.
00:33:21
Yeah, he's a Zoomer.
00:33:22
Wait, what?
00:33:23
That puts you at 99, right?
00:33:24
No, well, I'll be 24 next month, but.
00:33:26
So, okay, so you're-
00:33:27
I was born in 2000.
00:33:28
Oh, you're 2000, okay, okay.
00:33:29
Yeah, you're definitely a Zoomer then.
00:33:31
But you're more mature than the Zoomer crowd is.
00:33:33
I'll give you that one.
00:33:34
You're not a typical Zoomer.
00:33:36
That's kind of weird, but okay.
00:33:37
Why is it kind of weird?
00:33:38
I don't know, I've just never been told that.
00:33:39
I mean, you're pretty level-headed compared to most.
00:33:41
You're more level-headed than me, and fuck, I'm a millennial.
00:33:44
Plus, it's really weird for you
00:33:45
to actually give me a compliment, so.
00:33:46
You know what, fuck you, I'll take it back then.
00:33:48
You're a piece of shit and you smell like beef.
00:33:50
Yeah, I mean, that's a little bit more on the Kata brand,
00:33:53
but we'll work on it.
00:33:54
You would know, huh?
00:33:55
Because you say you're a hater,
00:33:57
but I'm convinced that you're a fan.
00:33:58
You're a fan?
00:33:59
Exotic, you a fan?
00:34:00
Definitely not a fan.
00:34:01
I kind of just hate subscribed you on Twitch.
00:34:04
So you hate me so much, you give me money?
00:34:06
Hate me more.
00:34:07
Yeah.
00:34:08
I don't know if I can go anymore, to be honest.
00:34:10
All right, everyone, that has been our first episode
00:34:14
of the second season.
00:34:15
It was great to finally get into the second season
00:34:19
with our boy Exotic here.
00:34:20
He's going to be a great addition to the cast.
00:34:23
We're looking forward to the future episodes with him too,
00:34:25
even though he calls himself a Nikita hater.
00:34:28
We know he's a fan, but he has been,
00:34:31
he has been absolutely wonderful.
00:34:32
It's been nice to have someone else join the podcast
00:34:36
who is also knowledgeable about Star Wars.
00:34:38
And him and Hobbs are definitely not the same person,
00:34:41
but as someone who is also knowledgeable
00:34:44
in the canon timeline,
00:34:45
it's nice to have some juxtaposition between me and Hunter,
00:34:48
who we do have some canon knowledge,
00:34:51
but definitely we lean more towards the legends timeline
00:34:55
when it comes to stuff.
00:34:56
But Exotic, do you have anything to say to our listeners
00:34:59
before we close out this first episode of the second season?
00:35:02
Just glad to be here, to be honest.
00:35:03
I mean, I love talking about Star Wars
00:35:05
and this kind of gives an outlet, so good to be here.
00:35:08
So yeah, everyone, be sure to follow us
00:35:10
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00:35:13
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00:35:16
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00:35:18
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00:35:20
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00:35:22
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00:35:25
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00:35:27
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00:35:29
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00:35:30
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00:35:32
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00:35:37
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00:35:39
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00:35:41
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00:35:44
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00:35:46
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00:35:50
We'll be having some guest stars.
00:35:52
We've got a lot of stuff planned,
00:35:53
new segments for our bonus episodes, everything.
00:35:56
So everyone, may the force be with you.
00:35:58
Peace out, Girl Scouts,
00:35:59
and we will catch you on the next episode.
00:36:02
See you again next week.