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In this episode, the boys get the topic "Everything the Fandom has ruined" from Brick-3PO and dive into things that they wish the Fandom Menace hadn't laid their hands on
00:00:00 --> 00:00:02 I mean, I don't know. He has a weird obsession
00:00:02 --> 00:00:06 with dinosaurs and back to the gathering. Dinos!
00:00:07 --> 00:00:11 Dinos! I love dinos. Yeah, exactly. I got on
00:00:11 --> 00:00:15 my grippy socks and my paper long and exotic
00:00:15 --> 00:00:18 shaking his booty in a thong. When she here too.
00:00:18 --> 00:00:21 Take that booty, exotic. I don't know. I just
00:00:21 --> 00:00:24 be rapping. I'm a rapper. You are not. You can't
00:00:24 --> 00:00:28 prove that. I do. I have arc. I can't prove I'm...
00:00:28 --> 00:00:32 I can prove I'm a fucking rapping velociraptor
00:00:32 --> 00:00:36 right now. Yeah. When I masturbate, I put my
00:00:36 --> 00:00:39 fingers into like this three prong claw and then
00:00:39 --> 00:00:41 I just kind of touch the tip. That's velociraptor.
00:00:42 --> 00:00:46 And then sometimes I spit a fat verse when I'm
00:00:46 --> 00:00:48 achieving orgasm. And that's the rapper part.
00:00:49 --> 00:00:52 And I'm a rapping velociraptor. No relation to
00:00:52 --> 00:00:55 the hip hopopotamus. I feel like that one was
00:00:55 --> 00:00:59 a little jarring to have to hear. I've put like
00:00:59 --> 00:01:02 250 hours into Ark in the past two weeks. I've
00:01:02 --> 00:01:04 never played, but I've always wanted to play
00:01:04 --> 00:01:31 because I can be IRL Dinosaur. Alright, hey everyone,
00:01:31 --> 00:01:34 and may the force be with you. Nikita here, back
00:01:34 --> 00:01:36 with my boys Exotic, Winshee, and Brick3PO for
00:01:36 --> 00:01:39 actually the first episode that we've had in
00:01:39 --> 00:01:41 a while. We've kind of been on in and out on
00:01:41 --> 00:01:43 hiatus, health stuff, work, different reasons.
00:01:43 --> 00:01:46 But we're back better than ever. The boys are
00:01:46 --> 00:01:49 back. Exotic's still mad about everything. And
00:01:49 --> 00:01:52 when she's mad about something as usual, but
00:01:52 --> 00:01:54 we're going to be doing actually, this is going
00:01:54 --> 00:01:56 to be the first episode of this season where
00:01:56 --> 00:01:59 we've gotten to do our new method of picking
00:01:59 --> 00:02:02 a main topic. We're going to wait on when she
00:02:02 --> 00:02:03 to come back from his vacation before we do our
00:02:03 --> 00:02:05 Andor episode. So we're going to be picking a
00:02:05 --> 00:02:08 random episode from a list of a bunch of topics.
00:02:08 --> 00:02:11 Brick3PO is going to use his randomizer function
00:02:11 --> 00:02:14 to pick us a topic and we're just going to go
00:02:14 --> 00:02:20 for it live. So Brick3PO, all you buddy. The
00:02:20 --> 00:02:24 topic for today is everything the fandom has
00:02:24 --> 00:02:28 ruined. Everything the fandom has ruined. We're
00:02:28 --> 00:02:32 going to be here for a while. It's pretty simple.
00:02:32 --> 00:02:36 They just ruined everything. Yep, the fandom
00:02:36 --> 00:02:38 has ruined everything. The end. Good episode,
00:02:38 --> 00:02:41 boys. Oh, man, dude, where do you even start
00:02:41 --> 00:02:43 on a topic this broad? Like, the fandom for Star
00:02:43 --> 00:02:45 Wars has been ruining shit since the beginning.
00:02:45 --> 00:02:48 Like, I went back and saw some Reddit posts from
00:02:48 --> 00:02:51 some older Star Wars fans, like, around Bill's
00:02:51 --> 00:02:54 age. And apparently, and I didn't even know this,
00:02:54 --> 00:02:58 like, Return of the Jedi was shit -talked into
00:02:58 --> 00:03:01 oblivion by most Star Wars fans after it came
00:03:01 --> 00:03:04 out. And I didn't even realize that. I always
00:03:04 --> 00:03:05 thought Return of the Jedi was a pretty good
00:03:05 --> 00:03:07 fucking movie. What were they saying about it?
00:03:07 --> 00:03:10 They didn't like the ending. Vader shouldn't
00:03:10 --> 00:03:12 have been redeemed. Like, it made no sense that
00:03:12 --> 00:03:15 Palpatine lost and got thrown over the edge.
00:03:15 --> 00:03:19 So powerful by Vader. The whole indoor scene
00:03:19 --> 00:03:22 doesn't make any sense because why wouldn't they
00:03:22 --> 00:03:24 just fucking kill the shit out of the rebels?
00:03:24 --> 00:03:27 Okay, so just like, they're just mad because
00:03:27 --> 00:03:29 it didn't go their way? Cool, got it. I'm just
00:03:29 --> 00:03:32 glad that they got the happy ending and the good
00:03:32 --> 00:03:34 guys won. Oh, no. It's okay. The bad guys come
00:03:34 --> 00:03:37 back, like, immediately. You mean somehow the
00:03:37 --> 00:03:40 bad guys come back? No, no. Thrawn comes back
00:03:40 --> 00:03:43 pretty quickly. Yeah, but okay. To be fair, I
00:03:43 --> 00:03:45 feel like when we're talking about what the fandom
00:03:45 --> 00:03:47 has ruined, we can't really... Can we talk about
00:03:47 --> 00:03:49 the books? Why are we talking about the books?
00:03:50 --> 00:03:53 Thrawn's in Ahsoka. Yeah. Oh, but... Okay, well,
00:03:53 --> 00:03:56 that was a big jump, so... And Rebels! That's
00:03:56 --> 00:03:58 true. That's true. It's hard for me to think
00:03:58 --> 00:04:02 about Star Wars chronologically sometimes when
00:04:02 --> 00:04:04 I think about release order. That's fair. I mean.
00:04:04 --> 00:04:06 But yeah, you're right. Things they've ruined.
00:04:06 --> 00:04:08 I mean, the Acolyte for sure. Everyone knows
00:04:08 --> 00:04:11 that. Most recent one. Darth Plagueis definitely
00:04:11 --> 00:04:14 ruined that. Darth Plagueis the Wise is just
00:04:14 --> 00:04:16 a meme now. I hate it because it could have been
00:04:16 --> 00:04:18 something. Everyone like complaining about the
00:04:18 --> 00:04:21 Acolyte. They just didn't give it time to cook.
00:04:22 --> 00:04:25 They were so upset about it having. a decent
00:04:25 --> 00:04:27 amount of representation that wasn't just white
00:04:27 --> 00:04:31 male neckbeards that they just killed it. The
00:04:31 --> 00:04:33 problem is it came out in a very polarizing time
00:04:33 --> 00:04:36 politically. And it's just another thing for
00:04:36 --> 00:04:41 people to be very yes or no about no middle ground.
00:04:41 --> 00:04:44 Oh man, you should have been there. Me and me
00:04:44 --> 00:04:46 and fuck. He doesn't go by rampage anymore. He
00:04:46 --> 00:04:49 goes by force feed. Now, John, we got into a
00:04:49 --> 00:04:53 fight with someone on Twitter about the acolyte.
00:04:53 --> 00:04:56 And the person we were arguing with goes, the
00:04:56 --> 00:04:59 creators even said it was the gayest thing that
00:04:59 --> 00:05:01 Star Wars ever made. It's just gay. They just
00:05:01 --> 00:05:04 pushed their gay agenda. I was like, you are
00:05:04 --> 00:05:06 the gayest person in this thread arguing about
00:05:06 --> 00:05:08 the Acolyte. You sucking dick right now? And
00:05:08 --> 00:05:11 he just didn't reply after that. Just because
00:05:11 --> 00:05:13 something is the gayest doesn't necessarily make
00:05:13 --> 00:05:14 it gay. I understand what they were trying to
00:05:14 --> 00:05:17 say. But like, I mean, and it is true because
00:05:17 --> 00:05:19 if you compare it to anything else of the Star
00:05:19 --> 00:05:23 Wars, like it's predominantly like. female they're
00:05:23 --> 00:05:27 people of color like they never came out and
00:05:27 --> 00:05:29 straight up said that they were lesbians but
00:05:29 --> 00:05:32 like i guess you could imply but i mean like
00:05:32 --> 00:05:35 i guess if i mean like if you have a group of
00:05:35 --> 00:05:38 just all females eventually two of them females
00:05:38 --> 00:05:40 gonna fall into each like fall for each other
00:05:40 --> 00:05:42 like this is how kind of group dynamics work
00:05:42 --> 00:05:45 like i don't know i feel like it was killed way
00:05:45 --> 00:05:47 too early it has so much potential i'm still
00:05:47 --> 00:05:49 like i'm yes i'm pissed off about the plague
00:05:49 --> 00:05:53 stuff but i'm more pissed off about what acolyte
00:05:53 --> 00:05:56 could have done for the entirety of lightsaber
00:05:56 --> 00:05:59 choreo moving forward like not only did what
00:05:59 --> 00:06:01 they got the guy from revenge of the sith right
00:06:01 --> 00:06:04 to do the choreo yeah so not only that but we
00:06:04 --> 00:06:08 had the opportunity for venestra and um kamir
00:06:08 --> 00:06:11 to do fighting because as i've mentioned many
00:06:11 --> 00:06:14 times before the only way to combat a light whip
00:06:14 --> 00:06:18 is with a shoto saber venestra has the whip kameer
00:06:18 --> 00:06:21 had the shoto saber like that i feel like that
00:06:21 --> 00:06:24 would have completely changed the course of lightsaber
00:06:24 --> 00:06:26 choreography for the rest of star wars and we
00:06:26 --> 00:06:28 were denied that yeah it's really unfortunate
00:06:28 --> 00:06:31 i was really excited to like actually see the
00:06:31 --> 00:06:33 light whip in action and not just like oh i whipped
00:06:33 --> 00:06:36 some bugs or the bug did kind of get fucked up
00:06:36 --> 00:06:38 though rick as a droid what is something that
00:06:38 --> 00:06:42 you feel like the fandom for star wars has has
00:06:42 --> 00:06:44 ruined i feel like you have very limited perspective
00:06:44 --> 00:06:47 on this but i'm curious as to what you say Kind
00:06:47 --> 00:06:51 of wish they did more with, like, crime syndicates,
00:06:51 --> 00:06:54 though. That's it. Too much Jedi. Oh, The Phantom?
00:06:54 --> 00:06:57 I don't know about that. Oh, okay. I figured
00:06:57 --> 00:06:58 you didn't. That's why I asked, just in case
00:06:58 --> 00:07:01 you had any input. The other thing that The Phantom
00:07:01 --> 00:07:03 really fucking, I don't know, it always rubbed
00:07:03 --> 00:07:06 me the wrong way, too, is, like, how they fucking
00:07:06 --> 00:07:08 treated, fuck, what's, I can't think of Jake's
00:07:08 --> 00:07:12 last name, the child actor for Anakin, and then
00:07:12 --> 00:07:15 Hayden Christensen also, like, in, what, between
00:07:15 --> 00:07:19 99 and 05? like i will i will always remember
00:07:19 --> 00:07:21 the fucking backlash from older star wars fans
00:07:21 --> 00:07:26 like for not liking like anakin's portrayal in
00:07:26 --> 00:07:28 the prequels like i thought that they did pretty
00:07:28 --> 00:07:31 well like if any of the movies were like more
00:07:31 --> 00:07:34 cringe than any other else i think it was more
00:07:34 --> 00:07:37 of episode two than any of them just because
00:07:37 --> 00:07:40 the like for me growing up and not seeing like
00:07:40 --> 00:07:42 a whole bunch of cgi and then all of a sudden
00:07:42 --> 00:07:45 seeing everything be cgi for the most part And
00:07:45 --> 00:07:47 it was a little weird. Like, I could tell that
00:07:47 --> 00:07:49 something was not the same. Probably a little
00:07:49 --> 00:07:51 autistic brain going to work. But, like, the
00:07:51 --> 00:07:54 backlash that, like, Hayden got, that Jake got,
00:07:55 --> 00:07:57 because Jake just stepped off the scene for a
00:07:57 --> 00:08:00 while. Hayden kind of took it in stride, but
00:08:00 --> 00:08:02 then also did his own little disappearing act
00:08:02 --> 00:08:04 and did, like, some other movies. But, like,
00:08:04 --> 00:08:09 I was very happy that, like, when the millennial
00:08:09 --> 00:08:12 Star Wars fans came of age and, like, you know,
00:08:12 --> 00:08:16 in the past. what kenobi came out in 21 22 something
00:08:16 --> 00:08:20 like that 22 maybe um some some around there
00:08:20 --> 00:08:23 like we're finally fucking in our mid -20s like
00:08:23 --> 00:08:25 the oldest the millennials are like what like
00:08:25 --> 00:08:29 in their 50s now early 50s late 40s like finally
00:08:29 --> 00:08:31 getting to show love or maybe that's too far
00:08:31 --> 00:08:36 maybe late 30s yeah i mean but even some of the
00:08:36 --> 00:08:38 even some of the older gen or the younger gen
00:08:38 --> 00:08:42 x like people we're we're still like into star
00:08:42 --> 00:08:46 wars too so but yeah mostly older 30s early 40s
00:08:46 --> 00:08:49 like they showed love to hayden christiansen
00:08:49 --> 00:08:51 like he came out he finally got you know his
00:08:51 --> 00:08:55 accolades his flowers and like it felt good it
00:08:55 --> 00:08:57 felt good to see like our anakin skywalker finally
00:08:57 --> 00:09:01 be praised it was um what that the fuck what
00:09:01 --> 00:09:03 year uh star wars day was it that whenever he
00:09:03 --> 00:09:06 came out on stage our celebration that was also
00:09:06 --> 00:09:08 like two years ago or something yeah whenever
00:09:08 --> 00:09:10 he came out on stage and just got An obscene
00:09:10 --> 00:09:12 amount of fucking cheers. Almost started crying
00:09:12 --> 00:09:15 too. That's honestly what I want to see happen.
00:09:15 --> 00:09:18 Like when this latest group, like these Gen Zers,
00:09:18 --> 00:09:22 mostly Gen Alpha, some of them too, they get
00:09:22 --> 00:09:25 older and maybe the sequel trilogy will get some,
00:09:25 --> 00:09:29 some love that's needed, whether it be because
00:09:29 --> 00:09:32 they just really appreciated those movies and
00:09:32 --> 00:09:36 get to celebrate the actors when they're older,
00:09:36 --> 00:09:39 or if it's because. Disney makes the story make
00:09:39 --> 00:09:41 more sense with some of these side content that
00:09:41 --> 00:09:44 they're releasing. Like, I feel like one of these,
00:09:44 --> 00:09:47 one of these series has to make like episode
00:09:47 --> 00:09:49 eight and nine make sense. Like they've got to
00:09:49 --> 00:09:50 do something. I really thought it was going to
00:09:50 --> 00:09:54 be bad batch. Like I, I'm at the point where
00:09:54 --> 00:09:56 it's going to be, it's going to be the Ahsoka
00:09:56 --> 00:10:00 Mando tie -in movie thing with Thrawn. You think
00:10:00 --> 00:10:03 that's going to make episode eight and nine make
00:10:03 --> 00:10:05 sense? Yes. That's what they're leading up to.
00:10:05 --> 00:10:08 It's all of the shows have been leading up to
00:10:08 --> 00:10:11 the big tie in movie with Thrawn, which is supposed
00:10:11 --> 00:10:14 to like, I mean, we have had Project Necromancer.
00:10:14 --> 00:10:17 We've had all the fucking outer rim like remnants
00:10:17 --> 00:10:20 that that have been coming in. Thrawn's now finally
00:10:20 --> 00:10:24 back so he can take over for them. Yeah, that's
00:10:24 --> 00:10:26 going to be the whole deal. And then he's going
00:10:26 --> 00:10:29 to set up the first order and maybe he'll like,
00:10:29 --> 00:10:31 you know, kick off the Project Necromancer or
00:10:31 --> 00:10:34 whatever. I don't know, but. But Necromancer
00:10:34 --> 00:10:36 was going on before First Order, I thought. Yes.
00:10:36 --> 00:10:38 I didn't know that Thrawn had anything to do
00:10:38 --> 00:10:41 with First Order. Well, he's gonna come back.
00:10:41 --> 00:10:44 He's coming back, and the Imperial remnants have
00:10:44 --> 00:10:47 been waiting for him. You have, like, Hux's dad
00:10:47 --> 00:10:50 is one of them, right? Like, these are the people
00:10:50 --> 00:10:53 that become the First Order. Gideon's dead, so
00:10:53 --> 00:10:56 somebody has to finish Necromancer. See, I always
00:10:56 --> 00:10:58 thought they were gonna take it more of how Legends
00:10:58 --> 00:11:01 did it, like, where Thrawn, like... gave the
00:11:01 --> 00:11:03 Imperial remnant the opportunity to join him,
00:11:03 --> 00:11:05 but didn't really pursue them if they didn't
00:11:05 --> 00:11:07 align with him. That's how I thought that they
00:11:07 --> 00:11:09 were going to do it. Like Thrawn was going to
00:11:09 --> 00:11:13 come back and then try to persuade the Imperials
00:11:13 --> 00:11:16 to join him, but them not all coalescing with
00:11:16 --> 00:11:19 him. I never knew that he was like anything to
00:11:19 --> 00:11:20 do with the First Order. I'm not going to lie.
00:11:21 --> 00:11:23 Well, I mean, we don't really know yet, right?
00:11:23 --> 00:11:26 Like that's the whole point of the tie -in movie.
00:11:26 --> 00:11:29 I will bet you. Big money that this Taya movie
00:11:29 --> 00:11:33 has absolutely nothing to do with Episode 8 or
00:11:33 --> 00:11:37 9. How much big money? I will bet like a lightsaber
00:11:37 --> 00:11:40 or blaster bolt big money. Blaster gun, whatever
00:11:40 --> 00:11:45 you want to call it. Okay, because let's just
00:11:45 --> 00:11:47 think about this here, right? You know we record,
00:11:48 --> 00:11:51 right? Okay, okay. The Mandalorian show with
00:11:51 --> 00:11:54 Grogu and the whole cloning thing was like a
00:11:54 --> 00:11:56 big deal for like three seasons. We know Gideon.
00:11:57 --> 00:12:00 perfected the cloning technique to create clones
00:12:00 --> 00:12:03 that are able to use the Force. Yes? This was
00:12:03 --> 00:12:06 confirmed at the end of Mando Season 3. Correct.
00:12:06 --> 00:12:09 Thrawn is coming back. Ahsoka's over there doing
00:12:09 --> 00:12:12 shit with the Father and Aboloth and whatever
00:12:12 --> 00:12:16 and Balin. They're gonna come back or some shit
00:12:16 --> 00:12:18 to regular galaxy or they're stuck there forever.
00:12:18 --> 00:12:21 We don't really know. But all that shit on this
00:12:21 --> 00:12:25 side is gonna be leading up to the Big Bang because...
00:12:26 --> 00:12:29 Why else would you tie Mando and Grogu into the
00:12:29 --> 00:12:31 big Thrawn movie with all the rebels and stuff?
00:12:31 --> 00:12:33 Rogert. I'm just trying to get him distracted.
00:12:33 --> 00:12:36 Sorry. I don't know. Are you giving me a chance
00:12:36 --> 00:12:38 to pull out of this bet? Are you giving me a
00:12:38 --> 00:12:40 chance to pull out of this bet? Because you said
00:12:40 --> 00:12:43 think about it. So I'm deliberating. I'm giving
00:12:43 --> 00:12:46 you a chance. I don't know. Part of me wants
00:12:46 --> 00:12:48 to, you know, I don't know when to back off and
00:12:48 --> 00:12:50 to double down. And this feels like a double
00:12:50 --> 00:12:53 down situation. It really shouldn't. I just don't
00:12:53 --> 00:12:57 have faith in Disney, man. I'm sorry. Okay, but
00:12:57 --> 00:13:00 it's Filoni's fucking baby. It is Filoni's baby.
00:13:00 --> 00:13:04 That is a saving grace. And a Favreau baby, too.
00:13:04 --> 00:13:07 Yeah. You really think they're going to, like,
00:13:07 --> 00:13:09 after they've been setting up little tidbits
00:13:09 --> 00:13:13 of, you know, set up for the movies where we
00:13:13 --> 00:13:16 just got somehow Palpatine returned, you really
00:13:16 --> 00:13:18 think they're just going to not address that
00:13:18 --> 00:13:21 stuff in their big tie -in movie right before?
00:13:21 --> 00:13:25 said other things kick off no somehow the fandom
00:13:25 --> 00:13:30 will ruin it okay maybe i'll give you that maybe
00:13:30 --> 00:13:33 the fandom will ruin it i wouldn't take that
00:13:33 --> 00:13:35 bet fandom could ruin anything i'm trying to
00:13:35 --> 00:13:37 think of other stuff they've like historically
00:13:37 --> 00:13:40 ruined like the acolyte was like the number one
00:13:40 --> 00:13:43 in my eyes acolyte was a big one i mean prequel
00:13:43 --> 00:13:47 trilogy to sequel trilogy for sure but i don't
00:13:47 --> 00:13:51 know Well, I feel like the prequel trilogy was
00:13:51 --> 00:13:53 scrutinized way more than the sequel trilogy
00:13:53 --> 00:13:57 was. I'm not going to lie. Really? Yeah. Really?
00:13:57 --> 00:14:00 I don't remember. Because that was the early
00:14:00 --> 00:14:04 parts of my love for Star Wars. And I just remember
00:14:04 --> 00:14:09 the few people who I were around absolutely hated
00:14:09 --> 00:14:11 it. And then when I finally got access to go
00:14:11 --> 00:14:16 online in 2007, like two years later, all I ever
00:14:16 --> 00:14:19 saw was like... This is why Hayden Christensen
00:14:19 --> 00:14:22 and Ewan McGregor are cringe as Obi -Wan and
00:14:22 --> 00:14:26 Anakin, our two blonde badasses of the galaxy.
00:14:26 --> 00:14:29 That was all I read. There was also like a lot
00:14:29 --> 00:14:31 less of a platform, right? Because like 2005
00:14:31 --> 00:14:34 is still kind of like early stages of the Internet.
00:14:34 --> 00:14:37 I didn't have home access to Internet at the
00:14:37 --> 00:14:40 time. I only had access at school. So like limited
00:14:40 --> 00:14:43 platform use. The old fuckers who were using
00:14:43 --> 00:14:45 it were using it. And then when I finally did
00:14:45 --> 00:14:48 get home internet, I didn't see many positive
00:14:48 --> 00:14:50 things. But by the time the sequel trilogy comes
00:14:50 --> 00:14:52 out, fucking everyone's on the internet and they
00:14:52 --> 00:14:54 have it at the palm of their hands. So I don't
00:14:54 --> 00:14:56 know, maybe it was scrutinized more, the sequel
00:14:56 --> 00:14:58 trilogy, but the prequel trilogies got it bad.
00:14:58 --> 00:15:00 I feel like the prequel trilogies may have gotten
00:15:00 --> 00:15:03 it bad because it was more of a echo chamber
00:15:03 --> 00:15:06 kind of deal, right? Where the few people that
00:15:06 --> 00:15:08 can get online and have access to those forums
00:15:08 --> 00:15:11 and actually post on those forums are... the
00:15:11 --> 00:15:13 people who are going to be the most angry and
00:15:13 --> 00:15:16 outspoken. But nowadays with everybody having
00:15:16 --> 00:15:19 a phone, anybody can make a post on Twitter or
00:15:19 --> 00:15:23 whatever about anything. So, you know, 10 million
00:15:23 --> 00:15:25 people see the movie, 5 million people make a
00:15:25 --> 00:15:27 tweet or some shit about it. That's like, this
00:15:27 --> 00:15:29 is the best movie ever, right? That's going to
00:15:29 --> 00:15:33 be way more overall scrutiny than, or at least
00:15:33 --> 00:15:38 outspoken scrutiny versus, you know, when the
00:15:38 --> 00:15:40 internet was less available. I don't know. I
00:15:40 --> 00:15:43 feel like the prequel trilogy, the actors got
00:15:43 --> 00:15:45 more hate. But the sequel trilogy, I feel like
00:15:45 --> 00:15:49 the producer, Disney, got more hate. You know
00:15:49 --> 00:15:51 what? I can agree with that. Yeah, it just boils
00:15:51 --> 00:15:53 down to where the hate was pointed at. Yeah,
00:15:54 --> 00:15:57 because Hayden Christensen, Ewan McGregor, Jake
00:15:57 --> 00:16:01 Lloyd, Natalie Portman even, they had interviews
00:16:01 --> 00:16:04 about like... why the backlash was so bad and
00:16:04 --> 00:16:06 that never really happened for the sequel trilogy
00:16:06 --> 00:16:08 but you definitely heard everyone and they mama
00:16:08 --> 00:16:12 bitching about disney so because nobody's complaining
00:16:12 --> 00:16:15 that i mean okay a few people were but like not
00:16:15 --> 00:16:18 many people are complaining that ray's line delivery
00:16:18 --> 00:16:23 was bad right or that you know finn was just
00:16:23 --> 00:16:26 like a horribly played character most of it is
00:16:27 --> 00:16:30 Well, the line that Finn. Yeah, it's it's mostly
00:16:30 --> 00:16:33 just that. And and this story makes no sense.
00:16:33 --> 00:16:36 And so why would they go on a public like whatever
00:16:36 --> 00:16:38 tour, you know, talking about the backlash to
00:16:38 --> 00:16:41 the actors when there really wasn't much like
00:16:41 --> 00:16:44 nobody's ripping on Boyega for being black. They're
00:16:44 --> 00:16:46 ripping on Disney for hiring him because they're
00:16:46 --> 00:16:49 racist. Right. Yeah. Because Boyega is actually
00:16:49 --> 00:16:52 a very good actor. Love John. Yeah, he is. He's
00:16:52 --> 00:16:54 really good. But there's only so much you can
00:16:54 --> 00:16:56 do with what you're given. Yeah, you can be the
00:16:56 --> 00:16:57 greatest actor in the world, but if the script
00:16:57 --> 00:17:00 is shitty, you ain't gonna do too well. I'm trying
00:17:00 --> 00:17:02 to think of what other stuff the fandom ruined.
00:17:03 --> 00:17:06 There's been other things. I don't think, actually
00:17:06 --> 00:17:08 Exotic, you would probably know. Has there ever
00:17:08 --> 00:17:10 been like a big amount of backlash from like
00:17:10 --> 00:17:13 a Star Wars video game? Only one is like the
00:17:13 --> 00:17:16 newer Battlefronts, but that was mainly people
00:17:16 --> 00:17:19 getting mad at EA, not the actual, like how the
00:17:19 --> 00:17:21 game is. Just because like people hate that EA
00:17:21 --> 00:17:24 owns the rights to the Star Wars games. I wonder
00:17:24 --> 00:17:26 if that's a... Monetizing shit. I wonder if that's
00:17:26 --> 00:17:29 a reoccurring theme in, like, fandom hate for
00:17:29 --> 00:17:33 stuff. Like, if it's, like, a production management
00:17:33 --> 00:17:38 thing as opposed to who's portraying who. Like,
00:17:38 --> 00:17:40 maybe that's... Maybe there's a commonality there
00:17:40 --> 00:17:42 where, like, whenever the fandom is upset about
00:17:42 --> 00:17:45 something, it's from something out of control
00:17:45 --> 00:17:47 of the actors. It's more of, like, the script
00:17:47 --> 00:17:50 and production thing. I mean, nowadays, yeah,
00:17:50 --> 00:17:53 because... either i mean it's either they delivered
00:17:53 --> 00:17:55 their lines well or they didn't but for the most
00:17:55 --> 00:17:58 part like the cleanup and the cgi and the touch
00:17:58 --> 00:18:00 up and the backdrops and everything are gonna
00:18:00 --> 00:18:03 make up for like oh they like walked weird or
00:18:03 --> 00:18:05 they were just like standing awkwardly because
00:18:05 --> 00:18:07 they can just edit that shit yeah i feel like
00:18:07 --> 00:18:10 the only time that that was the case was like
00:18:10 --> 00:18:12 the prequels i feel like that was the only time
00:18:12 --> 00:18:14 where like people were like i didn't like the
00:18:14 --> 00:18:16 actors as opposed to because like i can't remember
00:18:16 --> 00:18:19 anyone saying like the plot of episode one through
00:18:19 --> 00:18:21 three was bad because I mean, the plot was from
00:18:21 --> 00:18:24 the books and it made sense, right? I've definitely
00:18:24 --> 00:18:29 heard plenty of the plot. Like what? I haven't
00:18:29 --> 00:18:31 heard anything. I mean, I hear plenty of - It
00:18:31 --> 00:18:34 was always acting for me. Like, I didn't hear
00:18:34 --> 00:18:36 - I mean, if you - Like, share, please. Because
00:18:36 --> 00:18:39 that's part that I never got. If you've been
00:18:39 --> 00:18:41 on, like, the internet in the last few weeks,
00:18:41 --> 00:18:44 plenty of people have been re - you know, hating
00:18:44 --> 00:18:46 on Revenge of the Sith because they just saw
00:18:46 --> 00:18:49 it again for, you know, the story and how they
00:18:49 --> 00:18:51 didn't like - how certain aspects of that worked
00:18:51 --> 00:18:54 out. Attack of the Clones has always gotten scrutiny.
00:18:54 --> 00:18:56 I mean, look at Film Bros. Those dudes never
00:18:56 --> 00:19:00 shut up about how bad the prequels are. I knew
00:19:00 --> 00:19:01 you were going to mention them at some point.
00:19:02 --> 00:19:04 But no, I haven't seen anything recently. Because
00:19:04 --> 00:19:06 at this point, I don't give a fuck. Like, in
00:19:06 --> 00:19:08 2025, if someone's shit -talking Revenge of the
00:19:08 --> 00:19:10 Sith, they can go shit -talk themselves by themselves.
00:19:11 --> 00:19:13 Yeah, I just see stuff on Reddit. I don't really
00:19:13 --> 00:19:16 use other social media. I mean, for episode three,
00:19:16 --> 00:19:18 like the most recent, like the anniversary release,
00:19:18 --> 00:19:20 like I went to the theater and that shit was
00:19:20 --> 00:19:22 sold out. So, I mean, I definitely didn't see
00:19:22 --> 00:19:25 any people angry at it. Oh, no, no. I just saw
00:19:25 --> 00:19:27 people like they went to go watch it again. And
00:19:27 --> 00:19:29 then they were like, oh, yeah, now I remember
00:19:29 --> 00:19:32 why I didn't like this because of X, Y, Z. I
00:19:32 --> 00:19:33 don't know. I feel like it's still like the most
00:19:33 --> 00:19:37 beloved movie out of all of them. Honestly, it's
00:19:37 --> 00:19:38 like everyone's always going to be like, Anakin,
00:19:38 --> 00:19:41 don't do it. And Anakin does it. And I'm not
00:19:41 --> 00:19:42 talking about the younglings because fuck them
00:19:42 --> 00:19:45 kids. I mean, I guarantee you, if you're an actual
00:19:45 --> 00:19:48 Star Wars fan, you can probably recite the final
00:19:48 --> 00:19:51 battle between Annie and Obi -Wan. I brought
00:19:51 --> 00:19:56 peace! Justice! You already fucked it up. Whatever.
00:19:57 --> 00:20:00 I'm not good at quotes. Your new empire! It's
00:20:00 --> 00:20:03 not peace, justice? I thought that was the order.
00:20:03 --> 00:20:06 Peace, freedom, justice, and security to my new
00:20:06 --> 00:20:10 empire. Your new empire! Alright, well, I'm pretty
00:20:10 --> 00:20:13 sure that's basically... Fuck the fandom. That's
00:20:13 --> 00:20:17 really the point of today's episode. Fucking
00:20:17 --> 00:20:19 ruining my acolyte. I can forgive the... No,
00:20:19 --> 00:20:21 I can't even forgive the prequel stuff. I can
00:20:21 --> 00:20:23 forgive the sequel stuff for sure because I just
00:20:23 --> 00:20:26 didn't like those movies. But I love Star Wars.
00:20:27 --> 00:20:30 But fuck the fandom for ruining my acolyte. That's
00:20:30 --> 00:20:33 all I care about. Yep, ruin the chances of more
00:20:33 --> 00:20:35 Wookiee Jedi Screaming Time. Because there's
00:20:35 --> 00:20:38 more than likely just one. Then just one. Honestly,
00:20:38 --> 00:20:40 you probably listened to the podcast and just
00:20:40 --> 00:20:43 didn't want to give you any material to fap to.
00:20:44 --> 00:20:47 I'm not like that. That's Nikita's forte. Bullshit.
00:20:47 --> 00:20:50 Bullshit. Bullshit. The fucking Star Wars characters,
00:20:50 --> 00:20:53 that's 100 % your fucking forte. Bro, I would
00:20:53 --> 00:20:56 fuck one. I have never beat off to one, but we
00:20:56 --> 00:20:59 know you have a wookie boner, the way you talk
00:20:59 --> 00:21:01 about them. Every time we say wookie, we can
00:21:01 --> 00:21:04 hear your hair stand on end. I'm not over here
00:21:04 --> 00:21:06 fucking talking about the slime and juices that
00:21:06 --> 00:21:09 come out of their orifices. Tell me more about
00:21:09 --> 00:21:12 the slime and juices that come out of their orifices.
00:21:12 --> 00:21:15 Damn it. I'm not helping my case here. Also,
00:21:15 --> 00:21:17 fun fact. I don't know if you knew this, but
00:21:17 --> 00:21:21 we did a Without You. And I'm pretty sure that
00:21:21 --> 00:21:23 was the same force fact that when she said you
00:21:23 --> 00:21:28 were dead. Yeah. No, no, no. There was another.
00:21:28 --> 00:21:32 It hasn't come out yet. um there was there's
00:21:32 --> 00:21:34 a did you know that originally like there was
00:21:34 --> 00:21:36 a bunch of sets of rules that george lucas said
00:21:36 --> 00:21:39 that like star wars had to follow to maintain
00:21:39 --> 00:21:42 its continuity outside of continuity from our
00:21:42 --> 00:21:44 own universe and uh one of the rules originally
00:21:44 --> 00:21:47 yeah one of the we haven't released it yet oh
00:21:47 --> 00:21:49 well okay that doesn't mean you haven't yeah
00:21:49 --> 00:21:50 yeah that doesn't mean you have sorry i didn't
00:21:50 --> 00:21:52 even know you listened to those i'm not gonna
00:21:52 --> 00:21:55 lie but um yeah that's you talked about gunji
00:21:55 --> 00:21:58 and his lightsaber yeah i did you know that like
00:21:58 --> 00:22:00 wiki jedis weren't supposed to be a thing I didn't
00:22:00 --> 00:22:03 know that. That's why I'm hyped to see what's
00:22:03 --> 00:22:04 on screen. See, that one didn't make any sense
00:22:04 --> 00:22:07 to me because Lobaka always existed in the books.
00:22:08 --> 00:22:10 Or at least after, like, the 90s. That's why
00:22:10 --> 00:22:13 it's not canon. You know what? Eat shit. Don't
00:22:13 --> 00:22:15 talk about my Legends timeline like that. Motherfucker.
00:22:16 --> 00:22:18 Wait, but then what season of Clone Wars did
00:22:18 --> 00:22:22 they have the 3? I mean, that was still Lucas.
00:22:23 --> 00:22:24 I don't think it was 3. I thought it was later
00:22:24 --> 00:22:28 than that. Is it? What season does Gunji make
00:22:28 --> 00:22:31 his first appearance? Love having a fact checker.
00:22:31 --> 00:22:35 Yeah, because it was like whenever Ahsoka was
00:22:35 --> 00:22:38 in her newer outfit, I believe. Season 6 of season
00:22:38 --> 00:22:41 5. Y 'all didn't even let Brick get to do his
00:22:41 --> 00:22:44 job. That's crazy. I was thinking, like, I love
00:22:44 --> 00:22:46 the Clone Wars. I didn't know exactly what season,
00:22:46 --> 00:22:48 but it was from a later season. So yeah, until
00:22:48 --> 00:22:52 season 5. Well, but see, Lobaka existed definitely
00:22:52 --> 00:22:54 before that. I think Lobaka came into existence
00:22:54 --> 00:22:57 in like 94. Yeah, but, like, he basically washed
00:22:57 --> 00:23:00 his hands of Legends at, you know, one point,
00:23:00 --> 00:23:02 right? Had he done it at that point? I think
00:23:02 --> 00:23:06 so. I mean, he was never really much involved
00:23:06 --> 00:23:09 in Legends. He would, like, approve an overall,
00:23:09 --> 00:23:12 like, story or whatever, but then he would just
00:23:12 --> 00:23:14 let the people do whatever. Damn, I thought it
00:23:14 --> 00:23:17 was more towards, like, Fate of the Jedi and
00:23:17 --> 00:23:19 Legacy of the Force where he washed his hands
00:23:19 --> 00:23:20 clean of it, because that would have been closer
00:23:20 --> 00:23:22 to us being in high school. Yeah, I think he
00:23:22 --> 00:23:24 did it way earlier than that. Because, I mean,
00:23:24 --> 00:23:28 he sold it to Disney in 12, right? 14. 14? Yeah,
00:23:28 --> 00:23:31 it had to be, like, leading up to that. Yeah.
00:23:31 --> 00:23:35 And fucking scrapped the Revan and Bane showing
00:23:35 --> 00:23:37 up in the Clone Wars. I thought Bane did show
00:23:37 --> 00:23:39 up in the Clone Wars in that one vision with
00:23:39 --> 00:23:42 Yoda. He did. He did. Yeah, but it's like, they
00:23:42 --> 00:23:44 were supposed to be, like, actual characters.
00:23:44 --> 00:23:47 Oh, shit. Like, interacted. I'm not gonna lie,
00:23:47 --> 00:23:50 Bane's showing up. And that Yoda vision thing
00:23:50 --> 00:23:52 kind of pissed me off because it looked nothing
00:23:52 --> 00:23:56 like I had grown to think that Darth Bane was
00:23:56 --> 00:23:58 going to look like. I was like, who is this bitch?
00:23:59 --> 00:24:01 Looking like fucking evil force Skeletor or some
00:24:01 --> 00:24:04 shit. All right, guys. Well, that has been today's
00:24:04 --> 00:24:06 episode. I know it's been a while since we've
00:24:06 --> 00:24:09 gotten to do a full on episode, but be ready
00:24:09 --> 00:24:11 when, when she comes back from vacation, we will
00:24:11 --> 00:24:14 be doing, uh, covering Andor finally. We've also
00:24:14 --> 00:24:17 got some other random topics like this one, um,
00:24:17 --> 00:24:20 that brick BPO will, pick for us we've also got
00:24:20 --> 00:24:23 some stuff coming up with bill for let's talk
00:24:23 --> 00:24:26 legends we've also got you know some guest stars
00:24:26 --> 00:24:29 coming on the show too so be be ready for that
00:24:29 --> 00:24:30 i don't want to drop any names yet because we
00:24:30 --> 00:24:32 haven't confirmed a lot of things but one of
00:24:32 --> 00:24:35 my favorite podcasts might be joining us me and
00:24:35 --> 00:24:38 when she did a a show with them before not film
00:24:38 --> 00:24:40 bros but we'll likely have them on too they're
00:24:40 --> 00:24:42 not our favorites but they're up there i think
00:24:42 --> 00:24:46 when she top three have we recorded with more
00:24:46 --> 00:24:49 than three Have we recorded more than three?
00:24:49 --> 00:24:52 I mean, if you count the stuff that I did solo
00:24:52 --> 00:24:55 without you, yes. I don't. Okay, so no. Great.
00:24:55 --> 00:25:00 Okay, so top one is Rampage. Rampage has been
00:25:00 --> 00:25:05 on our show. And then top two is Mike and Jeremy.
00:25:05 --> 00:25:08 Yeah, they might be coming on our show. And then
00:25:08 --> 00:25:14 I have no other favorites. Hey, look, I don't
00:25:14 --> 00:25:17 care what you say. I love JP. Josh can go jump
00:25:17 --> 00:25:19 off a bridge. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's
00:25:19 --> 00:25:23 harsh. He just has bad opinions, okay? That's
00:25:23 --> 00:25:26 all. Let's not go too far now. All right, all
00:25:26 --> 00:25:28 right, fine. It's okay. They're number three.
00:25:29 --> 00:25:31 They're number three. Like hard number three
00:25:31 --> 00:25:33 or soft number three until we get someone else?
00:25:33 --> 00:25:38 Soft. Okay. So soft. They're a soft three. Ooh,
00:25:38 --> 00:25:41 that's sad. Potential for growth, though? Because,
00:25:41 --> 00:25:42 you know, maybe they're growers, not showers.
00:25:43 --> 00:25:45 I don't know, man. I feel like I'm a soft three.
00:25:45 --> 00:25:49 Okay, that's probably TMI. All right. Anyways,
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00:26:10 --> 00:26:13 Peace out. Ha ha ha!