NKDA, Hobbes and Mac dive into the story of Andor! With the first 8 episodes out, we explore the Imperial Bureaucracy, the humanization of the main characters and many other things dealing with the Star Wars Universe
00:00:26 --> 00:00:30 Welcome to The Force Unscripted, y 'all. It's
00:00:30 --> 00:00:35 your boy, Nikita. I have been... An avid fan
00:00:35 --> 00:00:37 of Star Wars, essentially, for the majority of
00:00:37 --> 00:00:40 my life. I absolutely love reading. You guys
00:00:40 --> 00:00:42 can see behind me that there's plenty of Star
00:00:42 --> 00:00:45 Wars books, Star Wars paraphernalia, lightsabers
00:00:45 --> 00:00:49 out the ass. I've got 26. And so my expertise
00:00:49 --> 00:00:51 kind of lie on the Legends timeline. I have watched
00:00:51 --> 00:00:53 some of the Disney, well, most of the Disney
00:00:53 --> 00:00:54 stuff. Haven't read much of the Disney books,
00:00:54 --> 00:00:58 but I do enjoy Star Wars in all forms, no matter
00:00:58 --> 00:01:04 how trashy the Disney sequel trilogy is. That
00:01:04 --> 00:01:08 is essentially me. I will probably be focusing
00:01:08 --> 00:01:12 more on the Legends timeline in all of my dissertation
00:01:12 --> 00:01:14 of the Star Wars content that we'll be talking
00:01:14 --> 00:01:17 about, essentially. But outside of that, I'm
00:01:17 --> 00:01:20 going to introduce you guys to my wonderful co
00:01:20 --> 00:01:23 -hosts, starting with my boy Hobbs here in the
00:01:23 --> 00:01:27 bottom right. So Hobbs, take it away. How's it
00:01:27 --> 00:01:31 going, everybody? Uh, I am Hobbs, Monster Hunter
00:01:31 --> 00:01:34 extraordinaire, usually, but, uh, definitely
00:01:34 --> 00:01:37 a big fan of Star Wars. Um, as for where my expertise
00:01:37 --> 00:01:41 falls, I'm kind of a jack -of -all -trades, master
00:01:41 --> 00:01:44 of none. I dabble in a little bit of this, dabble
00:01:44 --> 00:01:45 in a little bit of that. Mostly, I'm mostly an
00:01:45 --> 00:01:50 old -school, uh, TIE fighter player. um and i'm
00:01:50 --> 00:01:52 sure we'll have an episode where we get into
00:01:52 --> 00:01:54 that and it'll be very exciting to talk about
00:01:54 --> 00:02:01 yes yes yes yes so maybe perhaps so so so let's
00:02:01 --> 00:02:05 let's let's go on to our um our our our other
00:02:05 --> 00:02:08 our other person here is he a person is he really
00:02:08 --> 00:02:11 is he really a person wow i do not like that
00:02:11 --> 00:02:14 i do not mean to channel jeff goldblum by the
00:02:14 --> 00:02:20 way Well, nice to meet everybody. Mac or Astral,
00:02:20 --> 00:02:23 either one works. I've watched Star Wars through
00:02:23 --> 00:02:25 pretty much my whole life. I definitely am a
00:02:25 --> 00:02:28 big fan of the game. And there goes his internet.
00:02:28 --> 00:02:30 You kind of cut out after game, but go ahead.
00:02:31 --> 00:02:36 And then he cuts out again. What did I say? I
00:02:36 --> 00:02:39 pretty much played most of the games. Old Republic
00:02:39 --> 00:02:41 Air is definitely my jam. Definitely one of my
00:02:41 --> 00:02:44 favorites. Yeah, I think that's about it. At
00:02:44 --> 00:02:47 least for right now. at least right now while
00:02:47 --> 00:02:50 we while we work on your uh your internet connection
00:02:50 --> 00:02:55 uh but so basically today's episode is going
00:02:55 --> 00:02:58 to be focusing on one of the newer series that
00:02:58 --> 00:03:01 disney has just dropped uh which is andor and
00:03:01 --> 00:03:05 it has been a wild ride um it's been really good
00:03:05 --> 00:03:08 uh one of my favorite parts of the star wars
00:03:08 --> 00:03:12 timeline is essentially the formation of the
00:03:12 --> 00:03:17 rebellion um mostly post Order 66 kind of things,
00:03:17 --> 00:03:20 because there's a lot of stuff going on in the
00:03:20 --> 00:03:23 galaxy at once, and it's always an interesting
00:03:23 --> 00:03:26 time period to talk about. One thing that I really
00:03:26 --> 00:03:33 love that this series focuses on is sort of the
00:03:33 --> 00:03:37 normality of... these characters that uh you
00:03:37 --> 00:03:40 know we tend to not necessarily deify but we
00:03:40 --> 00:03:43 hold in a high light because oh they're a character
00:03:43 --> 00:03:45 from star wars they're infallible to some degree
00:03:45 --> 00:03:51 and like i absolutely love like the humanization
00:03:51 --> 00:03:52 of some of these characters like you what you
00:03:52 --> 00:03:57 see in andor specifically uh and one scene that
00:03:57 --> 00:04:02 i really like is cyril the corporate sector deputy
00:04:02 --> 00:04:07 inspector who loses his job basically kind of
00:04:07 --> 00:04:09 pursuing an end that he should just definitely
00:04:09 --> 00:04:12 not be pursuing and then getting scolded by his
00:04:12 --> 00:04:17 mother in her kitchen and it's just a it's a
00:04:17 --> 00:04:20 really funny scene to me because we've all been
00:04:20 --> 00:04:22 there where our mom has been oh you should have
00:04:22 --> 00:04:24 done this oh why didn't you do this oh look at
00:04:24 --> 00:04:26 how this turned out exactly like i said and i
00:04:26 --> 00:04:28 think that that's something that's absolutely
00:04:28 --> 00:04:32 hilarious in regards to the entire series hilarious
00:04:32 --> 00:04:34 is that my mom and i talked about that she even
00:04:34 --> 00:04:36 said haha didn't that remind me of you and i'm
00:04:36 --> 00:04:42 like please stop just please stop no that was
00:04:42 --> 00:04:45 definitely a a mom thing and then the other thing
00:04:45 --> 00:04:48 that i like is uh so basically mon mothma is
00:04:48 --> 00:04:51 a character that i that i grow to love in legends
00:04:51 --> 00:04:53 you know at some point she becomes the chief
00:04:53 --> 00:04:56 of state of the new republic so she's definitely
00:04:56 --> 00:05:00 like this figurehead and i guess The one thing
00:05:00 --> 00:05:05 that was really cool about Andor is that they
00:05:05 --> 00:05:07 kind of made me see that she was fallible. Just
00:05:07 --> 00:05:11 to give you some background, in Legends, Mon
00:05:11 --> 00:05:13 Mothma, as Chief of State, is trying to repair
00:05:13 --> 00:05:17 relationships with the Imperial Remnant, which
00:05:17 --> 00:05:22 is essentially an empire without an emperor.
00:05:23 --> 00:05:28 And this one dude... like at a party throws a
00:05:28 --> 00:05:31 drink in her face while she's talking to him
00:05:31 --> 00:05:34 and she contracts this like nano virus that's
00:05:34 --> 00:05:36 like inside of the drink and she basically ends
00:05:36 --> 00:05:39 up on her deathbed and ends up pulling through
00:05:39 --> 00:05:42 because of a mon calamari jedi who ends up being
00:05:42 --> 00:05:46 akbar's niece heals her but even in the face
00:05:46 --> 00:05:48 of all that she still tries to put on a front
00:05:48 --> 00:05:53 like i'm good i'm fine i'm here and i'm gonna
00:05:53 --> 00:05:55 do my job regardless of what's happening and
00:05:55 --> 00:05:58 that's something that i feel like they're they're
00:05:58 --> 00:06:00 they're moving towards in the andor series that
00:06:00 --> 00:06:03 i really really enjoy because you can still see
00:06:03 --> 00:06:07 like, Oh, her home life is kind of a mess. You
00:06:07 --> 00:06:09 know, she doesn't necessarily trust her partner.
00:06:09 --> 00:06:12 Her partner seems to not be on the same page
00:06:12 --> 00:06:14 as her. Her daughter is going through the rebellious
00:06:14 --> 00:06:17 teenage phase. You know, it's, it's a lot, but
00:06:17 --> 00:06:20 you see that like these characters are still
00:06:20 --> 00:06:23 human. They're still cool. They're still bad
00:06:23 --> 00:06:26 -ass, but they are, they are susceptible to human
00:06:26 --> 00:06:29 nature as we all are. Yeah, it's definitely a
00:06:29 --> 00:06:32 very interesting take on Star Wars. It's something
00:06:32 --> 00:06:36 you like to see very often. I enjoy it, for one,
00:06:36 --> 00:06:38 because it shows that not everybody is actually
00:06:38 --> 00:06:43 as invincible as they seem up here. It shows
00:06:43 --> 00:06:46 that they go through some of the exact same things
00:06:46 --> 00:06:50 that happen in real life. And that's still a
00:06:50 --> 00:06:54 very big subject. a long time ago in a galaxy
00:06:54 --> 00:06:57 far, far away. You would think that because it's
00:06:57 --> 00:06:59 fantasy that they don't go through these things.
00:06:59 --> 00:07:02 I would like to think that in a fantastical world,
00:07:02 --> 00:07:04 they don't go through those things, but obviously
00:07:04 --> 00:07:09 I'm wrong. Right, right. Yeah, especially for
00:07:09 --> 00:07:12 the scale of Star Wars. Yeah, it's like, no,
00:07:12 --> 00:07:15 no, people get depressed. Like, we actually saw
00:07:15 --> 00:07:19 Obi -Wan depressed. yeah yeah and you know that's
00:07:19 --> 00:07:21 one thing that i've liked about these series
00:07:21 --> 00:07:24 um i wouldn't consider obi -wan a supporting
00:07:24 --> 00:07:26 character by any means but like as far as like
00:07:26 --> 00:07:29 the andor thing is concerned like cassian i never
00:07:29 --> 00:07:32 expected When I first watched Rogue One, I never
00:07:32 --> 00:07:35 expected to have a series about Cassian. But
00:07:35 --> 00:07:40 seeing his story and seeing basically him be
00:07:40 --> 00:07:44 introduced to the fledgling rebellion and kind
00:07:44 --> 00:07:48 of all the work going behind it is just really
00:07:48 --> 00:07:52 cool. You know, it's a seemingly mundane story.
00:07:53 --> 00:07:58 But it has so many levels of complexity to it.
00:07:58 --> 00:08:01 And that's just something that I really do enjoy
00:08:01 --> 00:08:04 about Andor in general, you know, that that's
00:08:04 --> 00:08:06 kind of been like the whole. Well, I don't want
00:08:06 --> 00:08:08 to say the whole premise of the show, but it's
00:08:08 --> 00:08:10 it's definitely been like a big aspect, you know,
00:08:10 --> 00:08:14 like these are. normal everyday people who are
00:08:14 --> 00:08:17 just trying to fight an oppressive regime and
00:08:17 --> 00:08:19 they're trying to do it in the way that they
00:08:19 --> 00:08:22 know how or the way that they think is best because
00:08:22 --> 00:08:25 we all know saw guerrera super militant and then
00:08:25 --> 00:08:29 you know mon mothma super like i'm going to try
00:08:29 --> 00:08:33 to do these through my diplomatic processes um
00:08:33 --> 00:08:35 and you see that like they don't always get along
00:08:35 --> 00:08:37 they don't always they're not always on the same
00:08:37 --> 00:08:42 page and it's it's really reflective of how real
00:08:42 --> 00:08:43 life can be especially when you're trying to
00:08:43 --> 00:08:45 plan something i mean like even thinking about
00:08:45 --> 00:08:48 this podcast trying to get everyone on the same
00:08:48 --> 00:08:51 page to get recording you know it took a long
00:08:51 --> 00:08:54 time it took a while to get everyone on the same
00:08:54 --> 00:08:55 page everyone thinking the same thing and stuff
00:08:55 --> 00:08:59 and and you know you can see that come through
00:09:00 --> 00:09:02 in just so many different things in life and
00:09:02 --> 00:09:05 in Andor. Another thing that I wanted to kind
00:09:05 --> 00:09:09 of talk about too is just the Empire itself.
00:09:11 --> 00:09:15 I don't know what it is about, me and Hobbs were
00:09:15 --> 00:09:16 talking about this earlier, I don't know what
00:09:16 --> 00:09:22 it is about Star Wars and Empires. But every
00:09:22 --> 00:09:25 empire in Star Wars has some degree of racism
00:09:25 --> 00:09:29 and or misogyny. And I just, I don't know who
00:09:29 --> 00:09:34 in this or both. Yeah, I don't know. I don't
00:09:34 --> 00:09:39 know who in Lucasfilms or wherever in the Star
00:09:39 --> 00:09:42 Wars planning room is like, you know what? If
00:09:42 --> 00:09:45 we have an empire, they got to be racist and
00:09:45 --> 00:09:48 hate women. I just think it's so funny. It's
00:09:48 --> 00:09:55 almost like they turn into space Nazis. Yeah,
00:09:55 --> 00:09:58 I would consider Palpatine's regime space Nazis.
00:09:58 --> 00:10:01 No, that's Palpatine's regime for sure. That's
00:10:01 --> 00:10:06 why I said they turn into space Nazis. I think
00:10:06 --> 00:10:09 it very much has to do with painting a very clear
00:10:09 --> 00:10:11 black and white image of what the Empire is supposed
00:10:11 --> 00:10:15 to be, which is not good. Yeah, like they're
00:10:15 --> 00:10:18 clearly supposed to be the bad guys. Yeah, and
00:10:18 --> 00:10:20 they very much are so. You know, that always
00:10:20 --> 00:10:24 interests me too. Because one perspective that
00:10:24 --> 00:10:26 you get from the books, or at least the Legends
00:10:26 --> 00:10:29 books, I can't vouch for Disney, is the fact
00:10:29 --> 00:10:33 that a large majority of the galaxy did not care.
00:10:34 --> 00:10:36 that the Empire was who was in charge because
00:10:36 --> 00:10:39 there are multiple accounts of many planets thriving
00:10:39 --> 00:10:42 under the Empire, which they talk about in legends
00:10:42 --> 00:10:45 because in the Imperial remnant, these are planets
00:10:45 --> 00:10:48 that have chosen to stay under the Empire because
00:10:48 --> 00:10:50 the Empire has regulations for a reason. They
00:10:50 --> 00:10:54 have a very cutthroat military and navy. They've
00:10:54 --> 00:10:58 got the plan and resources to provide for their
00:10:58 --> 00:11:00 planets that you may not agree with every law,
00:11:00 --> 00:11:02 you may not agree with every regulation, but
00:11:02 --> 00:11:04 they do take care of their... people it's just
00:11:04 --> 00:11:09 that Star Wars movies and Star Wars series never
00:11:09 --> 00:11:12 really show that like the Empire like I'm not
00:11:12 --> 00:11:14 trying to defend the Empire I'm not trying to
00:11:14 --> 00:11:18 defend the space Nazis I promise you but I'm
00:11:18 --> 00:11:21 positive I'm positive because Palpatine is just
00:11:21 --> 00:11:26 a galaxy brained evil bastard trying to rule
00:11:26 --> 00:11:30 the entire universe but the reason why I prefer
00:11:30 --> 00:11:34 the Sith Empire yeah and see like the facilities
00:11:34 --> 00:11:38 of the Empire are effective. It's just a fact
00:11:38 --> 00:11:40 of the matter. They may not be effective in a
00:11:40 --> 00:11:43 positive light, but they sure as hell are effective.
00:11:45 --> 00:11:47 I mean, in a positive light or not, they are
00:11:47 --> 00:11:51 retaining a pretty good amount of order, considering
00:11:51 --> 00:11:54 they run the whole galaxy. We see in Andor, you
00:11:54 --> 00:11:59 have these military militant... uh like population
00:11:59 --> 00:12:02 that um isn't necessarily like these devout imperials
00:12:02 --> 00:12:04 that you typically would think of and like hard
00:12:04 --> 00:12:06 to really say that they're all bad necessarily
00:12:06 --> 00:12:09 right i mean yeah that's definitely that's definitely
00:12:09 --> 00:12:11 the case like because you know like down to it
00:12:11 --> 00:12:13 just like just thinking about numbers they're
00:12:13 --> 00:12:17 not all bad people there's a in the legends timeline
00:12:17 --> 00:12:21 in the legacy of the force series luke skywalker
00:12:21 --> 00:12:25 has a confrontation with his son ben And Ben
00:12:25 --> 00:12:28 basically is saying, you know, you killed people.
00:12:28 --> 00:12:30 You killed millions of people on the Death Star.
00:12:31 --> 00:12:33 How do you know that they were all bad? And Luke
00:12:33 --> 00:12:36 has, like, this inner turmoil because he's like,
00:12:36 --> 00:12:39 you're right. I don't know. They probably weren't
00:12:39 --> 00:12:42 all bad, and I can never defend that. But the
00:12:42 --> 00:12:46 service of my act was in for the greater good
00:12:46 --> 00:12:50 of the galaxy. And, you know, you've... when
00:12:50 --> 00:12:52 you see it in a light like that like you start
00:12:52 --> 00:12:55 to think like oh yeah like you know there's obviously
00:12:55 --> 00:12:58 got to be some good people in the empire just
00:12:58 --> 00:13:01 as there's got to be some bad people in the rebellion
00:13:01 --> 00:13:04 it all just depends on you know your perspective
00:13:04 --> 00:13:08 of the conflict yeah um like i i still remember
00:13:08 --> 00:13:12 seeing the whole uh like i've seen pictures depicting
00:13:12 --> 00:13:15 uh like what the empire felt when the first death
00:13:15 --> 00:13:17 star was blown like like you see the the wall
00:13:17 --> 00:13:19 that kind of sort of looks like um the memorial
00:13:19 --> 00:13:22 from washington dc but it's like for the empire
00:13:22 --> 00:13:25 and you see stormtroopers like looking at it
00:13:25 --> 00:13:28 and crying yeah that's that's basically to the
00:13:28 --> 00:13:31 same effect um and uh nobody really thinks about
00:13:31 --> 00:13:33 that either because it's just like they're the
00:13:33 --> 00:13:35 bad guys you know but it's just like what if
00:13:35 --> 00:13:41 they weren't all the bad guys and um It's interesting
00:13:41 --> 00:13:49 that they're starting to bring that into fruition.
00:13:50 --> 00:13:54 I think through a few different series that we've
00:13:54 --> 00:13:57 seen, I think Mandalorian somebody defected or
00:13:57 --> 00:14:01 something like that. You had people that were
00:14:01 --> 00:14:03 in the Empire and were just like, what the hell
00:14:03 --> 00:14:08 are we doing? You know? And, and that's, that's
00:14:08 --> 00:14:12 one thing, like I said, I, I really do love the
00:14:12 --> 00:14:14 sort of, what's the word I'm looking for? Like
00:14:14 --> 00:14:19 just, just seeing how the inner workings of the
00:14:19 --> 00:14:22 empire itself are the bureaucracy at, at, you
00:14:22 --> 00:14:27 know, at play at work. And, um, I, I cannot think
00:14:27 --> 00:14:31 of her name. The Deidre, is it, is it Deidre
00:14:31 --> 00:14:36 Miro? God, their names are so forgettable. They
00:14:36 --> 00:14:41 are. There's just so many of them. But she's
00:14:41 --> 00:14:45 basically the Imperial, and she's trying to basically
00:14:45 --> 00:14:50 follow this hidden trail that she sees. to try
00:14:50 --> 00:14:53 to find this rebel cell that she knows is out
00:14:53 --> 00:14:55 there, but she just simply can't prove it. And
00:14:55 --> 00:14:57 you see the inner workings of bureaucracy and
00:14:57 --> 00:14:59 action. Like she's trying to access this information,
00:14:59 --> 00:15:03 but this other guy who is also in the ISB is
00:15:03 --> 00:15:06 like, why are you trying to climb the ladder?
00:15:06 --> 00:15:08 You know, you should make sure the ladder is
00:15:08 --> 00:15:11 stable before you try to climb it. And he's not
00:15:11 --> 00:15:15 worried about. her being effective but instead
00:15:15 --> 00:15:18 of going you know through to trying to help her
00:15:18 --> 00:15:20 because obviously she has the good she's the
00:15:20 --> 00:15:24 good of the isb in heart he's thinking that she's
00:15:24 --> 00:15:27 trying to usurp him or just usurp someone in
00:15:27 --> 00:15:29 general so she can move up and i think that that
00:15:29 --> 00:15:33 is that is like the empire imperial bureaucracy
00:15:33 --> 00:15:37 like to a t at its core right there and it's
00:15:37 --> 00:15:42 just absolutely it's it's awesome to see but
00:15:42 --> 00:15:46 it's also again it shows off just the overall
00:15:46 --> 00:15:51 misogyny specifically uh in the empire of them
00:15:51 --> 00:15:54 seeing a woman and she being the only woman in
00:15:54 --> 00:15:56 the circle and how much of a struggle it is for
00:15:56 --> 00:15:58 her to simply do her job because that's what
00:15:58 --> 00:16:02 she's doing she's just trying to do her job and
00:16:02 --> 00:16:04 because of the way the bureaucracy is structured
00:16:04 --> 00:16:10 the way that she is perceived It seems like she's
00:16:10 --> 00:16:14 trying to go after something, some hidden goal,
00:16:14 --> 00:16:17 some ulterior motive, when she's just literally
00:16:17 --> 00:16:20 doing her job to try to make sure that the empire
00:16:20 --> 00:16:23 that she serves is protected, safe, and maintained,
00:16:23 --> 00:16:25 you know? And I just think that just always gets
00:16:25 --> 00:16:29 me. It's really funny to see. There's always
00:16:29 --> 00:16:31 some character that has to do something by any
00:16:31 --> 00:16:34 means necessary. Even if they have to do, like,
00:16:34 --> 00:16:38 the dirtiest thing just to ensure the protection
00:16:38 --> 00:16:41 of whatever they're working for. That happens
00:16:41 --> 00:16:45 quite often, especially in Star Wars. My God.
00:16:46 --> 00:16:50 And on both sides. Okay? It's not just the Empire.
00:16:50 --> 00:16:54 It's happened on the Rebels or the Republic side,
00:16:54 --> 00:16:56 too, where you get some scumbag that's like,
00:16:56 --> 00:17:00 I'm doing this for the good of the Republic.
00:17:00 --> 00:17:03 And it's like, but yeah, you're like... a little
00:17:03 --> 00:17:08 bit of a jerk saw guerrera thank you hey yeah
00:17:08 --> 00:17:12 yeah so he's just he's so militant he's like
00:17:12 --> 00:17:16 we've got it's blood for blood eye for eye fire
00:17:16 --> 00:17:19 for fire right yeah it's very much one track
00:17:19 --> 00:17:22 mind that's for sure very that that is very much
00:17:22 --> 00:17:25 true and it's it's it's funny to see because
00:17:25 --> 00:17:28 i i consider like you know he's an extremist
00:17:29 --> 00:17:31 And I definitely consider him extremist. But
00:17:31 --> 00:17:33 it's funny because I also consider Mon Mothma
00:17:33 --> 00:17:37 an extremist. She comes off as kind of like a
00:17:37 --> 00:17:40 centrist. And I feel like they're moving more
00:17:40 --> 00:17:44 towards her being a centrist. I don't know if
00:17:44 --> 00:17:47 you saw the latest episode, but she's like discussing
00:17:47 --> 00:17:53 it, like her tactics with Tay at the dinner that
00:17:53 --> 00:17:58 they're having at her place of residence. I feel
00:17:58 --> 00:18:00 like they're moving her more towards centrists
00:18:00 --> 00:18:02 because when you think about Mon Mothma, she
00:18:02 --> 00:18:05 is technically an extremist. She wants to go
00:18:05 --> 00:18:08 full pacifist. She wants to take the diplomatic
00:18:08 --> 00:18:11 means to try to find a solution to all of these
00:18:11 --> 00:18:15 problems. like it doesn't seem like it's an extreme
00:18:15 --> 00:18:18 view, but it is, you know, like the far left
00:18:18 --> 00:18:22 compared to Saw Gerrera's far right, where he's
00:18:22 --> 00:18:24 like, you know, we've got to attack this base.
00:18:24 --> 00:18:27 We've got to steal this payroll. We've got to
00:18:27 --> 00:18:29 make sure that they can't, you know, ship this
00:18:29 --> 00:18:32 amount of supplies to wherever they want to,
00:18:32 --> 00:18:35 to whatever depot or whatever. And so I just
00:18:35 --> 00:18:40 think it's amazing that we get to see the dichotomy
00:18:40 --> 00:18:44 of. rebellion, essentially. And not just the
00:18:44 --> 00:18:48 dichotomy of a developed rebellion, because this
00:18:48 --> 00:18:52 isn't too far after the end of the Galactic Civil
00:18:52 --> 00:18:57 War. It's like it's still fledgling. They're
00:18:57 --> 00:18:59 still developing their networks and stuff, and
00:18:59 --> 00:19:04 you already see that it's immediately the big
00:19:04 --> 00:19:08 players are not all on the same page. I think
00:19:08 --> 00:19:10 jumping off of what you said a little bit earlier
00:19:10 --> 00:19:13 in that was like, They're both extremists, but
00:19:13 --> 00:19:15 on, like, the literal two ends of the spectrum.
00:19:15 --> 00:19:18 And it's just something that you kind of have
00:19:18 --> 00:19:20 to, like, the Rebellion is going to go through
00:19:20 --> 00:19:22 this phase where they kind of try to figure out
00:19:22 --> 00:19:24 the best way to go about that and, like, work
00:19:24 --> 00:19:26 through that. Because, like, obviously having
00:19:26 --> 00:19:30 Saw Gerrera just do his thing is not necessarily
00:19:30 --> 00:19:34 the best, as I'm sure we'll find out later. I'm
00:19:34 --> 00:19:37 sure. I sure hope we do. Now, one thing that
00:19:37 --> 00:19:40 I... Yeah, hopefully. I did want to talk about
00:19:40 --> 00:19:45 for sure. I just, just talking about the Imperial
00:19:45 --> 00:19:48 payroll heist in Andor. I just have to mention
00:19:48 --> 00:19:52 this because it's, it's so funny. Like I, I was,
00:19:52 --> 00:19:55 I was so happy. I was like, okay, Andor's with
00:19:55 --> 00:19:57 this group. They're going to try to steal this
00:19:57 --> 00:20:00 money. They going for that bread. They finna
00:20:00 --> 00:20:05 get this bread. And there's two. cool black guys
00:20:05 --> 00:20:08 you know it's weird it's because like you know
00:20:08 --> 00:20:11 like for the longest time billy d williams was
00:20:11 --> 00:20:13 like the only notable like black person in star
00:20:13 --> 00:20:16 wars and now you have all these people playing
00:20:16 --> 00:20:19 significant roles that are black and i was like
00:20:19 --> 00:20:22 yeah like like because the heist is going well
00:20:22 --> 00:20:25 everything's falling in order i'm like this is
00:20:25 --> 00:20:30 gonna be amazing and There was absolutely no
00:20:30 --> 00:20:33 deus ex blackina for me. The black people still
00:20:33 --> 00:20:36 died. They pulled the horror movie trope. I was
00:20:36 --> 00:20:39 so sad. I was like, you know, maybe these black
00:20:39 --> 00:20:42 people will survive and get to see the fruits
00:20:42 --> 00:20:45 of their labor. Nope. Star Wars ripped that rug
00:20:45 --> 00:20:52 right from under me. I 100 % called that GTA
00:20:52 --> 00:20:57 Star Wars. that was just that was just i was
00:20:57 --> 00:20:59 like this is just a gta heist in star wars and
00:20:59 --> 00:21:03 i'm here for it i was so sad i was actually so
00:21:03 --> 00:21:08 sad i was like they could have been so much also
00:21:08 --> 00:21:10 another small thing in andor that i really appreciated
00:21:10 --> 00:21:16 was like they they they really they really pulled
00:21:16 --> 00:21:20 a snitches get stitches move by killing tim carlo
00:21:20 --> 00:21:24 when he snitched on on andor like he snitched
00:21:24 --> 00:21:27 and then like okay the thing about snitching
00:21:27 --> 00:21:29 is if you're gonna snitch don't feel bad about
00:21:29 --> 00:21:31 it because that makes it worse and then he just
00:21:31 --> 00:21:36 gets murked like i was like dude yeah my boy
00:21:36 --> 00:21:42 shot him like he was a robocop jesus christ i
00:21:42 --> 00:21:45 had to actually i had to actually rewind because
00:21:45 --> 00:21:49 i was like what the what happened it happened
00:21:49 --> 00:21:51 so fast because he was like mid -sentence and
00:21:51 --> 00:21:55 then pow i was like bro it really does show you
00:21:55 --> 00:21:58 that like jealousy really can't be a though because
00:21:58 --> 00:22:00 like he simply did he simply did that because
00:22:00 --> 00:22:02 he thought cassian and bix were doing something
00:22:02 --> 00:22:05 behind his back like putting your nose in someone
00:22:05 --> 00:22:08 else's business and and not knowing what's going
00:22:08 --> 00:22:12 on and making assumptions and like what what
00:22:12 --> 00:22:14 does assuming do it makes the ass out of you
00:22:14 --> 00:22:17 and me and he ended up dead because of it yeah
00:22:17 --> 00:22:24 oh man and then i sat there like shame yeah honestly
00:22:24 --> 00:22:29 i uh i i'm really excited to see where it's going
00:22:29 --> 00:22:32 i actually don't know how many episodes there
00:22:32 --> 00:22:35 are left in this season do you guys know um are
00:22:35 --> 00:22:38 we we're in seven or eight i think i think it's
00:22:38 --> 00:22:42 it's either nine or twelve i think it might be
00:22:42 --> 00:22:44 nine but it might be twelve it's one of those
00:22:44 --> 00:22:48 two as long as they don't pull a kenobi oh there
00:22:48 --> 00:22:53 goes max internet He's actually just a robot.
00:22:53 --> 00:22:55 He's just full -on roboting right now. It's great.
00:22:56 --> 00:23:01 But was there any other plot points or any other
00:23:01 --> 00:23:04 stuff about Endor that you guys maybe wanted
00:23:04 --> 00:23:06 to mention? I know, like, people were really
00:23:06 --> 00:23:09 curious about the Kyber Crystal, and I know that
00:23:09 --> 00:23:12 Mac was really excited about the reference to
00:23:12 --> 00:23:17 the Rakatan Empire, but I guess that was just
00:23:17 --> 00:23:20 kind of like a small little... um easter egg
00:23:20 --> 00:23:23 or whatever for for fans of like the old republican
00:23:23 --> 00:23:25 stuff i don't know if they're actually going
00:23:25 --> 00:23:29 to develop that any probably not um i mean you
00:23:29 --> 00:23:33 saw star killers armor yes i'm so glad you mentioned
00:23:33 --> 00:23:36 that yes i'm so glad you mean i saw that and
00:23:36 --> 00:23:38 i had to go back and rewind twice and i saw i
00:23:38 --> 00:23:43 was like okay luthen i see you but then but then
00:23:43 --> 00:23:46 dude but then dude had the the the stones from
00:23:46 --> 00:23:50 uh the temple of doom and i was like wait for
00:23:50 --> 00:23:53 real oh now that i didn't notice yeah he had
00:23:53 --> 00:23:55 like if you there was it was like on the shelf
00:23:55 --> 00:23:58 you see the you see three of them they're brown
00:23:58 --> 00:24:01 and i was like are those from temple of doom
00:24:01 --> 00:24:05 how does that work so does that mean that indiana
00:24:05 --> 00:24:08 jones exists in the star wars universe because
00:24:08 --> 00:24:10 like we know et does but does that mean that
00:24:10 --> 00:24:15 indiana jones also does i'm not sure but it was
00:24:15 --> 00:24:18 an interesting easter egg it was definitely an
00:24:18 --> 00:24:20 interesting easter egg that they threw in there
00:24:20 --> 00:24:23 for no reason i definitely thought it was cool
00:24:23 --> 00:24:25 yeah that's the same that you know honestly that's
00:24:25 --> 00:24:28 how i felt about like star killer like the little
00:24:28 --> 00:24:32 the force unleashed um but i was still happy
00:24:32 --> 00:24:34 nonetheless like seeing that just made me really
00:24:34 --> 00:24:37 happy i was like oh snap i forgot that existed
00:24:39 --> 00:24:42 like it was so like that was cool yeah that was
00:24:42 --> 00:24:45 100 cool to see and i totally i totally pulled
00:24:45 --> 00:24:47 a leo when i saw it too like i was just sitting
00:24:47 --> 00:24:53 back i was like oh man um i was uh for it was
00:24:53 --> 00:24:55 definitely interesting to see um that he came
00:24:55 --> 00:24:57 that he um came from that cassian came from like
00:24:57 --> 00:25:00 this tribe of um i forget what they're called
00:25:00 --> 00:25:03 but it was i was like they're like really tribal
00:25:03 --> 00:25:06 Oh, yeah. I did not see that coming. Neither
00:25:06 --> 00:25:10 did I. I was like, whoa, he was in a tribe? So
00:25:10 --> 00:25:13 I'd love to see how he transitioned to them while
00:25:13 --> 00:25:15 they kind of sort of showed everything. Their
00:25:15 --> 00:25:18 casa, right? Is that what it is? Yeah, something
00:25:18 --> 00:25:22 like that. But that was an interesting twist,
00:25:23 --> 00:25:27 at least to see his origin story, so to speak.
00:25:27 --> 00:25:30 Yeah, you know, there were parts of that that
00:25:30 --> 00:25:32 I really did appreciate, especially because...
00:25:33 --> 00:25:36 like what was it a republic frigate crashed on
00:25:36 --> 00:25:40 the planet yeah yeah and he lost uh i guess like
00:25:40 --> 00:25:43 the leader of the see okay now that's the part
00:25:43 --> 00:25:45 that i'm confused about is it essentially like
00:25:45 --> 00:25:48 a children of the corn cult like where it's just
00:25:48 --> 00:25:52 all kids and no adults that's what i that either
00:25:52 --> 00:25:54 that it was like lord of the flies but like i
00:25:54 --> 00:25:56 mean i think either way there was no adults but
00:25:56 --> 00:25:58 um like i thought that's what it was Was there
00:25:58 --> 00:26:00 any other plot points that you wanted to mention?
00:26:01 --> 00:26:03 Nothing that I can think of off the top of my
00:26:03 --> 00:26:05 head, at least. Like, we did mention the Rakatan
00:26:05 --> 00:26:07 Empire thing, but yeah, I think that was just
00:26:07 --> 00:26:09 kind of like a callback more than any sort of
00:26:09 --> 00:26:12 plot point, at least as it stands right now.
00:26:12 --> 00:26:16 All right. Oh, I am excited to see where it goes.
00:26:17 --> 00:26:18 Because, you know, the one thing I want to know,
00:26:19 --> 00:26:21 because I want to know if this is going to be
00:26:21 --> 00:26:26 a multi -season series, and if so, where does
00:26:26 --> 00:26:28 it stop? And I want to know how they're going
00:26:28 --> 00:26:30 to close out this first season, too, because
00:26:30 --> 00:26:32 I don't know if I would absolutely I don't know
00:26:32 --> 00:26:34 if I'd be able to handle it if it's just on a
00:26:34 --> 00:26:37 cliffhanger. There's so much up up in the wind
00:26:37 --> 00:26:40 right now. Like I know I'm sorry if I'm doing
00:26:40 --> 00:26:42 any kind of slight spoilers for you guys, because
00:26:42 --> 00:26:44 I know you guys haven't caught up yet. But Cassian
00:26:44 --> 00:26:48 being in jail kind of. cut off from the world
00:26:48 --> 00:26:52 him being hunted by the two people that survived
00:26:52 --> 00:26:55 the imperial heist with him and you know it's
00:26:55 --> 00:26:58 just a it's a lot of stuff at once and i really
00:26:58 --> 00:27:01 i i i i'm usually when it comes to star wars
00:27:01 --> 00:27:04 series i'm able to predict where i think that
00:27:04 --> 00:27:07 they're going to go where i think you know this
00:27:07 --> 00:27:11 is going to end and i have absolutely no clue
00:27:11 --> 00:27:13 about that right now so i was i was wondering
00:27:13 --> 00:27:15 if you guys had any assumptions or any ideas
00:27:15 --> 00:27:19 of where might be headed right now i mean i kind
00:27:19 --> 00:27:21 of sort of predicted he was going to be in jail
00:27:21 --> 00:27:25 i was like i don't agree with how they did that
00:27:25 --> 00:27:29 honestly i really don't so i don't have to say
00:27:29 --> 00:27:32 behind you but i honestly going into it had zero
00:27:32 --> 00:27:35 idea of what was going to happen it felt a little
00:27:35 --> 00:27:39 haphazard honestly I'd have to check it out.
00:27:39 --> 00:27:43 When I view it, I'll definitely have a better
00:27:43 --> 00:27:46 opinion on it, of course. But I was just like,
00:27:46 --> 00:27:49 when you meet him in Rogue One, you're like,
00:27:49 --> 00:27:51 okay, yeah, this dude had to have gone to jail
00:27:51 --> 00:27:58 a couple of times. Yeah, exactly. Like, he's
00:27:58 --> 00:28:04 been through the system more than once. Yeah,
00:28:04 --> 00:28:07 for sure. And I'm excited to see... To see where
00:28:07 --> 00:28:10 it goes, you know, we'll probably do another
00:28:10 --> 00:28:14 follow -up on the Andor stuff once the season
00:28:14 --> 00:28:16 has finished and kind of get all of our thoughts
00:28:16 --> 00:28:20 together on anything. But, you know, that's basically
00:28:20 --> 00:28:24 all that we have with the story so far. I've
00:28:24 --> 00:28:26 absolutely loved all the intricacies, like I've
00:28:26 --> 00:28:28 mentioned, you know, the sort of what we kind
00:28:28 --> 00:28:31 of see as mundane aspects to these great Star
00:28:31 --> 00:28:35 Wars characters' lives, the intricacies of, you
00:28:35 --> 00:28:38 know, the Imperial bureaucracy. bureaucracy that
00:28:38 --> 00:28:41 that's such a hard word to say um you know the
00:28:41 --> 00:28:45 internal misogyny and stuff um the stuff that
00:28:45 --> 00:28:48 we've seen from the different views of these
00:28:48 --> 00:28:50 people who are trying to get a coalition together
00:28:50 --> 00:28:55 against the empire um and so you know it's This
00:28:55 --> 00:28:57 series has been nothing but excellent, in my
00:28:57 --> 00:29:01 opinion. Obviously, there's a couple of discrepancies,
00:29:01 --> 00:29:04 but I'm going to walk into it with an open mind
00:29:04 --> 00:29:08 because they still got time. It's not the season
00:29:08 --> 00:29:10 finale yet, so maybe they can close off some
00:29:10 --> 00:29:15 of these holes that I'm seeing. But it's been
00:29:15 --> 00:29:17 an excellent story so far, especially as someone
00:29:17 --> 00:29:21 who loved Rogue One. I think of all the movies
00:29:21 --> 00:29:25 that Disney has put out. would put rogue one
00:29:25 --> 00:29:28 essentially near the top um if not my favorite
00:29:28 --> 00:29:30 one that they've put out it's it was just a great
00:29:30 --> 00:29:32 movie i know mac disagrees and we're definitely
00:29:32 --> 00:29:37 gonna have to have an episode about but i like
00:29:37 --> 00:29:40 i agree with you i i agree with you i just don't
00:29:40 --> 00:29:44 think it's better than empire but yeah no empire
00:29:44 --> 00:29:47 empire is the best episode five episode five
00:29:47 --> 00:29:50 supremacy all the way but no i 100 love star
00:29:50 --> 00:29:57 wars reach i mean rogue one Seriously, when I
00:29:57 --> 00:29:59 watched it, I was like, seriously, when I was
00:29:59 --> 00:30:03 watching it, it was no way meant to bash it,
00:30:03 --> 00:30:05 but I just sat there and I was like, holy crap,
00:30:05 --> 00:30:08 I just watched Halo Reach. Yeah, to an extent,
00:30:08 --> 00:30:11 kind of. To an extent, that was basically Star
00:30:11 --> 00:30:15 Wars' Halo Reach. So I did look it up. There
00:30:15 --> 00:30:18 is 12 episodes of Andor, so we still have four
00:30:18 --> 00:30:21 more episodes, it looks like. But I do agree,
00:30:21 --> 00:30:24 like, Especially not being the biggest fan of
00:30:24 --> 00:30:26 Rogue One, I was really pleasantly surprised
00:30:26 --> 00:30:28 with how it's turned out so far. And I'm definitely
00:30:28 --> 00:30:31 really, really interested to see how it ends
00:30:31 --> 00:30:34 up. I usually am up every night to watch the
00:30:34 --> 00:30:37 episode right when it comes out, too. So I'm
00:30:37 --> 00:30:38 definitely interested to see how it goes. And
00:30:38 --> 00:30:41 if they do end up doing multiple seasons, kind
00:30:41 --> 00:30:44 of where they go from there. Yeah, I'm excited
00:30:44 --> 00:30:46 to see what's going to happen. But if anyone
00:30:46 --> 00:30:50 in the chat has any questions in regards to Andor,
00:30:50 --> 00:30:53 Star Wars in general, maybe you want to target
00:30:53 --> 00:30:55 your question, especially if you have a question
00:30:55 --> 00:30:57 for Hobbs or you have a question for me, feel
00:30:57 --> 00:31:01 free to go ahead and ask. We will leave the floor
00:31:01 --> 00:31:03 open for a little bit so you guys can get in
00:31:03 --> 00:31:06 whatever Star Wars questions that you may have.
00:31:06 --> 00:31:10 But for the most part, that has been the small
00:31:10 --> 00:31:13 little first discussion of Andor so far. We will
00:31:13 --> 00:31:16 most likely do a... another episode um probably
00:31:16 --> 00:31:20 once the season is finished and we will have
00:31:20 --> 00:31:22 our fourth member with us for that he couldn't
00:31:22 --> 00:31:24 make it for this one but tiger will be there
00:31:24 --> 00:31:27 and so we'll have a fourth person to kind of
00:31:27 --> 00:31:30 go off of and hopefully mac gets his terrible
00:31:30 --> 00:31:32 internet fixed by then or at least finds another
00:31:32 --> 00:31:36 alternative sorry i pick on you mac it's fine
00:31:36 --> 00:31:39 i'm used to it we'll figure it out so question
00:31:39 --> 00:31:43 from alex roca tv who is the most cake character
00:31:43 --> 00:31:47 vader or yoda it's got to be vader man anakin
00:31:47 --> 00:31:52 was so ripped like insanely ripped he had to
00:31:52 --> 00:31:54 have he had to have them cheeks clapping in the
00:31:54 --> 00:31:57 wind like there's definitely vader yeah like
00:31:57 --> 00:32:00 maybe like you could you could Technically say
00:32:00 --> 00:32:02 that maybe some of the fat on his cheeks got
00:32:02 --> 00:32:06 burned off on Mustafar. But Yoda got a flat ass.
00:32:06 --> 00:32:09 I just know it. I just know it. I just absolutely
00:32:09 --> 00:32:13 know it. No, no, no. See, Vader's mostly metal.
00:32:13 --> 00:32:16 Whereas Yoda spent the last 20 years of his life
00:32:16 --> 00:32:19 just vibing in Dagobah. That dude's gotta be
00:32:19 --> 00:32:22 caked up at this point now. So one thing that's
00:32:22 --> 00:32:27 funny. So Disney canon confirmed that basically
00:32:27 --> 00:32:31 Yoda... When Luke comes and Empire is high as
00:32:31 --> 00:32:33 **** because of his guy. Of course he is. You
00:32:33 --> 00:32:35 know, but it's so funny because when I was younger,
00:32:36 --> 00:32:39 like, because I saw the originals first and then
00:32:39 --> 00:32:43 I saw the prequels. And I could never understand,
00:32:43 --> 00:32:46 like, why Yoda went from being, like, this goofball.
00:32:46 --> 00:32:49 Because you know he knows who R2 is. And then
00:32:49 --> 00:32:52 you go back and you see him in the prequel. And
00:32:52 --> 00:32:53 he's just, like, completely different. Like,
00:32:54 --> 00:32:57 he's this calm Jedi Grandmaster trying to, like,
00:32:57 --> 00:33:00 hold the galaxy together. Yeah, for real. Yeah,
00:33:01 --> 00:33:03 he's just completely different. But I always
00:33:03 --> 00:33:06 thought he was just high off that Dagobi and
00:33:06 --> 00:33:08 Kush, but it was just his Gimer Stick. He was
00:33:08 --> 00:33:12 just high off Gimer Stick. I want to try both
00:33:12 --> 00:33:16 of those. It's the first time for everything,
00:33:16 --> 00:33:20 right? They go be in Kush. Does sound kind of
00:33:20 --> 00:33:24 fire. That they go be in Zaza. That they go be
00:33:24 --> 00:33:27 in Zaza, yeah. Alright, let's see. So Yorick
00:33:27 --> 00:33:30 Derp has a question for all of us. He says, if
00:33:30 --> 00:33:33 y 'all can only get one dark and one light side
00:33:33 --> 00:33:38 power. which two will be in your arsenal um so
00:33:38 --> 00:33:41 i will actually i'll let i'll let mac go first
00:33:41 --> 00:33:45 mac what's your choice that's tough i force crush
00:33:45 --> 00:33:48 is definitely one of my favorite abilities of
00:33:48 --> 00:33:51 all time that is just so badass and then as for
00:33:51 --> 00:33:55 light side that's a really tough one i probably
00:33:55 --> 00:33:57 have to go i forget what the max level is but
00:33:57 --> 00:34:00 night speed like there's um that one is just
00:34:00 --> 00:34:03 And this is just me coming from Kotor and playing
00:34:03 --> 00:34:04 those games, but yeah, I think I'm gonna have
00:34:04 --> 00:34:06 to go with those two. Like, Night Speed and then
00:34:06 --> 00:34:09 Force Crush. Both of those are just so incredibly
00:34:09 --> 00:34:13 useful, and Force Crush is so badass. Okay. Those
00:34:13 --> 00:34:15 are some good answers. I hadn't even thought
00:34:15 --> 00:34:17 about those, honestly. Alright, what about you,
00:34:17 --> 00:34:20 Hobbs? Um, oh, that's very, very easy for me.
00:34:20 --> 00:34:23 Uh, Force Scream. Being that I'm a monster hunter,
00:34:23 --> 00:34:27 I would definitely channel that. and um probably
00:34:27 --> 00:34:30 like something simple for light side like force
00:34:30 --> 00:34:32 push or something like that i feel like force
00:34:32 --> 00:34:35 push is like neutral right yeah right i feel
00:34:35 --> 00:34:37 like it's more neutral yeah um okay well then
00:34:37 --> 00:34:39 if we're going like actual light side i don't
00:34:39 --> 00:34:43 know maybe like uh healing yeah of course it
00:34:43 --> 00:34:46 was a good one yeah force heal but like i definitely
00:34:46 --> 00:34:49 want to i would definitely use force scream to
00:34:49 --> 00:34:53 world like a nergigante so see i was for the
00:34:53 --> 00:34:56 light side ability i was thinking about force
00:34:56 --> 00:34:59 healing but like force healing to jedi is basically
00:34:59 --> 00:35:02 the same as like channeling the dark side for
00:35:02 --> 00:35:04 the sith like it really does take it out of you
00:35:04 --> 00:35:09 but of all the light side powers i you know what
00:35:09 --> 00:35:12 actually I would take, like, the lightning absorption,
00:35:12 --> 00:35:15 the kind of thing that you see Yoda do in Episode
00:35:15 --> 00:35:18 3 versus Palpatine where he channels the force
00:35:18 --> 00:35:20 lightning on his hands. Like, I would take that
00:35:20 --> 00:35:24 as my light side power. Yeah, essentially. And
00:35:24 --> 00:35:28 then as far as my dark side power would go, I
00:35:28 --> 00:35:31 would probably take Sith battle meditation, honestly.
00:35:32 --> 00:35:36 We see it in Legacy of the Force, and Jason Solo,
00:35:37 --> 00:35:42 one of Han and Leia's twins, is able to essentially
00:35:42 --> 00:35:48 take a small force and overwhelm a planet just
00:35:48 --> 00:35:51 because he's able to... feel how everyone in
00:35:51 --> 00:35:55 in his armada is feeling and kind of influence
00:35:55 --> 00:35:58 them and nudge them and you know like one time
00:35:58 --> 00:36:00 someone because i i you guys know i play league
00:36:00 --> 00:36:03 of legends one time someone asked me unfortunately
00:36:03 --> 00:36:06 exactly one time someone asked me like if you
00:36:06 --> 00:36:09 could make your own amateur team like your dream
00:36:09 --> 00:36:14 amateur team what would it be and i like i know
00:36:14 --> 00:36:16 it sounds egotistical as hell but like my answer
00:36:16 --> 00:36:20 was like well if it's me i would just choose
00:36:20 --> 00:36:22 to clone myself four times and just have a team
00:36:22 --> 00:36:25 of me because you know that we're all thinking
00:36:25 --> 00:36:28 the same thing and you know it's that same um
00:36:28 --> 00:36:30 aspect for the sith battle meditation you know
00:36:30 --> 00:36:33 if you're all on the same page and you're all
00:36:33 --> 00:36:35 gonna try to do the same thing with the same
00:36:35 --> 00:36:39 kind of force behind you no pun intended but
00:36:39 --> 00:36:40 pun intended i just think that that's a really
00:36:40 --> 00:36:43 cool dark side ability if not that then definitely
00:36:43 --> 00:36:44 force lightning because i just want to shock
00:36:44 --> 00:36:46 a lot of people and just no repercussions yeah
00:36:46 --> 00:36:49 like like that would be my other if i was able
00:36:49 --> 00:36:51 to choose to that would be my other one yeah
00:36:51 --> 00:36:54 picking crush for storm would definitely be mine
00:36:54 --> 00:36:56 but bottom limitations are light and dark side
00:36:56 --> 00:36:59 ability so No, but I mean specifically Sith battle
00:36:59 --> 00:37:02 meditation. Like, that specific one. Like, it's
00:37:02 --> 00:37:04 a little bit different. Well, at least in the
00:37:04 --> 00:37:07 Legends, it's different because Luke can't do
00:37:07 --> 00:37:09 it. But, like, Jason, when he becomes a Sith
00:37:09 --> 00:37:12 Lord, can. I don't know much about the powers
00:37:12 --> 00:37:15 in that area, but, like, Bastila knows battle
00:37:15 --> 00:37:17 meditation. And then in Code Fire 2, you can
00:37:17 --> 00:37:19 learn it, and it is a light side ability. But,
00:37:19 --> 00:37:21 like, this is the first time I've heard of the
00:37:21 --> 00:37:23 Sith battle meditation, though. I think they
00:37:23 --> 00:37:25 might be slightly different. But I'll have to
00:37:25 --> 00:37:27 do a fact check on that and come back to you.
00:37:28 --> 00:37:30 Yeah, I'm not 100 % sure on the difference between
00:37:30 --> 00:37:32 the two there, but I do know that it is both
00:37:32 --> 00:37:35 light and dark then. And now I'm on a mod where
00:37:35 --> 00:37:39 the forest shout sounds like the T -Rex from
00:37:39 --> 00:37:43 Jurassic Park. That'd be good. I mean, like,
00:37:43 --> 00:37:45 you have the forest. You could. I mean, like,
00:37:45 --> 00:37:47 Obi -Wan Kenobi simulates a Krayt Dragon, so
00:37:47 --> 00:37:50 what's stopping you from being a T -Rex? right
00:37:50 --> 00:37:56 right so alex roca tv uh has another question
00:37:56 --> 00:38:00 uh what's a disney canon element plotline characters
00:38:00 --> 00:38:03 etc that you guys actually thought it was really
00:38:03 --> 00:38:05 good or interesting hobs i'll let you open on
00:38:05 --> 00:38:09 this one mando mando was just like it for me
00:38:09 --> 00:38:12 like that was that was i was like okay that's
00:38:12 --> 00:38:17 he's a cool ass character Actually, him and the
00:38:17 --> 00:38:23 character that, again, Apollo Creed plays. Yes,
00:38:23 --> 00:38:25 I called him Apollo Creed because that's who
00:38:25 --> 00:38:28 he plays in Rocky. But I thought they were awesome.
00:38:30 --> 00:38:33 Just a lot of people from Mandalorian I thought
00:38:33 --> 00:38:38 were pretty amazing. I want them to redeem Fenn
00:38:38 --> 00:38:40 so goddamn bad, but that's just a fever dream
00:38:40 --> 00:38:45 right now. Redeem who? Fenn. Oh, Finn. Okay,
00:38:45 --> 00:38:48 okay, okay. How would they even go about redeeming
00:38:48 --> 00:38:53 Finn? Exactly. That's why I said it's a fever
00:38:53 --> 00:38:55 dream at this point. What about you, Mac? What's
00:38:55 --> 00:38:58 been your favorite Disney canon element? It's
00:38:58 --> 00:39:01 hard to say. I'd probably go with the characters
00:39:01 --> 00:39:05 because there's one character in Mandalorian
00:39:05 --> 00:39:08 played by Bill Burr who like... he was like the
00:39:08 --> 00:39:11 perfect example of what like a redeemed stormtrooper
00:39:11 --> 00:39:13 or whatever like could have been like like kind
00:39:13 --> 00:39:15 of jumping off what we were talking about with
00:39:15 --> 00:39:18 finn and then like like the bad batch is like
00:39:18 --> 00:39:20 my favorite disney one that they've done so far
00:39:20 --> 00:39:22 and like it all the characters in that are just
00:39:22 --> 00:39:24 done really really well like none of the characters
00:39:24 --> 00:39:27 feel out of place for the story and like they
00:39:27 --> 00:39:28 don't feel like they do things that would be
00:39:28 --> 00:39:30 like uncharacteristic to their own character
00:39:30 --> 00:39:33 so i probably have to go with that The plot on
00:39:33 --> 00:39:36 some of them is not the best. The plot of Bad
00:39:36 --> 00:39:39 Batch is kind of weird, but I do really, really
00:39:39 --> 00:39:41 enjoy the show, and I think that a lot of it
00:39:41 --> 00:39:43 is based off of the characters and the relationship
00:39:43 --> 00:39:46 that they have with each other, and how it all
00:39:46 --> 00:39:49 feels genuine to the character within the realm
00:39:49 --> 00:39:52 of the show and Star Wars as a whole. Is Bad
00:39:52 --> 00:39:56 Batch getting another season? Yes, it is. Okay,
00:39:56 --> 00:39:59 good. Because I don't know about you guys, but
00:39:59 --> 00:40:02 in my top characters, in my top five, Boba Fett
00:40:02 --> 00:40:05 is in my top five. And so getting to see Omega
00:40:05 --> 00:40:09 and how she kind of... I want to know more about
00:40:09 --> 00:40:12 her. That has been my favorite part about Bad
00:40:12 --> 00:40:17 Batch. 100%. I'm 100 % team Wrecker. Yeah, no,
00:40:17 --> 00:40:20 I'm not a fan of Wrecker. The fact that Wrecker
00:40:20 --> 00:40:22 smashed somebody's helmet and literally cracked
00:40:22 --> 00:40:31 it open is so funny to me. He is literally the
00:40:31 --> 00:40:35 Ed from Ed, Edd n Eddy of Star Wars. No, 100%.
00:40:35 --> 00:40:42 And I love him for it. It's so good. But my favorite
00:40:42 --> 00:40:46 Disney canon element, if anything, I'd have to
00:40:46 --> 00:40:52 say in no meme, Vice Admiral Holdo because of
00:40:54 --> 00:40:59 Of all of the sequel trilogy, I honestly enjoy
00:40:59 --> 00:41:02 The Last Jedi the most. For a lot of reasons,
00:41:02 --> 00:41:07 but primarily the cinematography and the scene
00:41:07 --> 00:41:12 where Holdo lightspeeds into the Mega Star Destroyer,
00:41:12 --> 00:41:15 sacrificing her life to buy the Rebellion time,
00:41:16 --> 00:41:20 will always forever live rent -free, not only
00:41:20 --> 00:41:23 in my heart, but in my soul. Like, now I just...
00:41:23 --> 00:41:26 think that that scene was was beautiful but it
00:41:26 --> 00:41:29 was a very admirable sacrifice it was very well
00:41:29 --> 00:41:32 i thought that it was probably like the best
00:41:32 --> 00:41:36 part of the movie of course i didn't i didn't
00:41:36 --> 00:41:38 really like leia being able to survive the vacuum
00:41:38 --> 00:41:40 of space but we're not going to talk about that
00:41:40 --> 00:41:50 but nobody did The scene where Holdo goes lightspeed
00:41:50 --> 00:41:53 into the Megastar Destroyer was absolutely badass,
00:41:53 --> 00:41:56 and I will forever stan her for that sole reason.
00:41:56 --> 00:41:58 While we're on the subject of people surviving
00:41:58 --> 00:42:01 in the vacuum of space, I hated how they did
00:42:01 --> 00:42:07 my man Ackbar. I was like, okay, so he's just
00:42:07 --> 00:42:14 dead. Cool. akbar is one of my favorite characters
00:42:14 --> 00:42:19 in the timeline um so for those of you who don't
00:42:19 --> 00:42:22 know the plot of the new jedi order is essentially
00:42:22 --> 00:42:25 an extra galactic threat comes and basically
00:42:25 --> 00:42:29 sweeps through the yuzhong vong right yeah the
00:42:29 --> 00:42:32 yuzhong vong and one of my favorite scenes that
00:42:32 --> 00:42:34 because everyone at this point everyone knows
00:42:34 --> 00:42:37 who akbar is you know one of the greatest admirals
00:42:37 --> 00:42:40 of the rebellion you know just still this overall
00:42:40 --> 00:42:43 still cool like served literally served the new
00:42:43 --> 00:42:46 republic until he could not serve anymore and
00:42:46 --> 00:42:49 at this point when the yuzhong vong attack like
00:42:49 --> 00:42:53 he is so old that he cannot leave his home pools
00:42:53 --> 00:42:54 like he has to stay constant constantly hydrated,
00:42:55 --> 00:42:57 constantly in water. He has to be taken care
00:42:57 --> 00:43:02 of by one of Leia's old aides named Winter. And
00:43:02 --> 00:43:06 it's funny because the New Republic is just struggling
00:43:06 --> 00:43:10 versus the Yuuzhan Vong. And they go, like Akbar
00:43:10 --> 00:43:13 has got to be like in his like 70s at this point,
00:43:13 --> 00:43:16 just really old, you know, he's battered. And
00:43:16 --> 00:43:18 they go to him and they're like, this is the
00:43:18 --> 00:43:21 situation and this is what we've been doing and
00:43:21 --> 00:43:24 this hasn't worked. Admiral Ackbar kind of sits
00:43:24 --> 00:43:28 there and goes, hmm, okay, okay. He listens to
00:43:28 --> 00:43:30 them. He's like, I know how to beat them. And
00:43:30 --> 00:43:32 they're all like, what? He was like, yep, I know
00:43:32 --> 00:43:35 how to beat them. And literally, so after that,
00:43:35 --> 00:43:38 he's like, I will be a consultant to the New
00:43:38 --> 00:43:40 Republic Army and we'll beat the Yuuzhan Vong.
00:43:40 --> 00:43:43 And so basically a message goes out to the entire
00:43:43 --> 00:43:47 New Republic fleet. And it's three words. Ackbar
00:43:47 --> 00:43:50 is back and the entire fleet celebrates for three
00:43:50 --> 00:43:53 days. If that's not clout, if that's not clout,
00:43:54 --> 00:43:58 that's clout. And too bad he doesn't survive
00:43:58 --> 00:44:01 to see his plan come to fruition. He passes away
00:44:01 --> 00:44:04 two months before they end up beating the Yuuzhan
00:44:04 --> 00:44:07 Vong. But because of his strategy, because of
00:44:07 --> 00:44:11 his plan, he has won another war for the galaxy
00:44:11 --> 00:44:15 at bay. That's just amazing. Whenever I think
00:44:15 --> 00:44:18 about that scene or about that period in the
00:44:18 --> 00:44:22 Yuuzhan Vong war, seeing the words, Akbar is
00:44:22 --> 00:44:24 back and celebrating for three days is just absolutely
00:44:24 --> 00:44:29 incredible. It is. That's cool. That's gutted.
00:44:29 --> 00:44:33 You love to see that. Seriously. I don't see
00:44:33 --> 00:44:36 any more questions. So it looks like we're probably
00:44:36 --> 00:44:39 going to call it there. We don't have a set...
00:44:40 --> 00:44:43 firm date on what the or when our next episode
00:44:43 --> 00:44:45 is going to be so stay tuned but we look forward
00:44:45 --> 00:44:47 to putting out more episodes and like i said
00:44:47 --> 00:44:49 next time when we come through we'll have our
00:44:49 --> 00:44:53 fourth member mr tiger he is a another really
00:44:53 --> 00:44:57 cool dude very avid star wars fan and then i
00:44:57 --> 00:44:59 just want to give a small thank you to you two
00:44:59 --> 00:45:02 hobs and mac it's been a absolutely wonderful
00:45:02 --> 00:45:04 experience getting to talk star wars with you
00:45:04 --> 00:45:08 guys and i cannot wait to continue to do more
00:45:09 --> 00:45:12 As we move forward from here on. But that is
00:45:12 --> 00:45:14 it everyone. We will catch you guys next time.
00:45:14 --> 00:45:17 Thank you all so much for being a wonderful audience.
00:45:17 --> 00:45:21 And until the next podcast. May the force be
00:45:21 --> 00:45:24 with you all. And we will all catch you around.