Dive into the Q&A section of the second episode of The Force Unscripted!
00:00:00
And welcome back guys, it's been it's been great.
00:00:28
It's been great.
00:00:29
This is what I love to do.
00:00:30
I love to get to talk Star Wars.
00:00:34
It's always been one of my favorite things and just getting to speak with the boys essentially,
00:00:40
it's great.
00:00:41
It's what what really keeps me in the Star Wars world is that it's so expansive and
00:00:48
you can talk about any things and even though you know as we've mentioned many times you
00:00:52
know there there are definitely a lot of things about canon even some things about legends
00:00:56
that we don't like I do enjoy the fact that canon is a thing because of the juxtaposition
00:01:02
between both the timelines you know that there is the ability to be able to compare and contrast
00:01:08
that it's not all the same even though I wish it was all the same.
00:01:13
It's still it's still pretty great.
00:01:15
I will always have a deep deep love for Star Wars.
00:01:19
That being said due to such a deep love of Star Wars I and my compadres here we enjoy
00:01:27
answering different questions about Star Wars too.
00:01:31
We've got a couple from some of the viewers some people from discord also certain questions
00:01:37
that people want asked and we have some answers or at least what we think might be the answer.
00:01:44
So one of the first ones came through is from my buddy Simply Good.
00:01:49
His first question is was Luke stronger than Revan and so I was I know everyone on this
00:01:57
podcast probably has their own specific answer to that so I'm going to start it off.
00:02:00
So in my opinion I really do believe that when it comes to raw force power I really
00:02:11
believe that Revan probably has the advantage in as far as raw force power.
00:02:16
Now when it comes to practical use of the force skill with the force different number
00:02:22
of skill sets in the force I think Luke had him beat.
00:02:25
I think if it comes to a straight up fight as far as dueling is concerned I do I firmly
00:02:32
believe that Luke would win but I think if you're just talking about like raw power gonna
00:02:37
destroy something I think Revan has Luke beat like straight up and down the court regardless
00:02:44
of how you look at it.
00:02:46
But maybe my my compadres here have have different opinions so let's see what Winchie has to
00:02:51
say.
00:02:52
No I actually actually agree with that Luke had much more pinpoint skill I would say like
00:03:00
you know if you if you asked him to do something that was delicate but required a lot of talent
00:03:06
Luke had it right.
00:03:07
But if you wanted somebody to just you know bring down you know bring down a space station
00:03:13
whatever you know with the force Revan's got it Revan's Revan takes the cake he's he's
00:03:18
so powerful he's got so much raw power that he has you know the ability to just unleash
00:03:23
at the you know the drop of a hat you know even going toe to toe with Viscette for a
00:03:27
little while but you know he doesn't have and which is why he's Bastilla right like
00:03:33
why she was able to you know bring it back she's had better better skill with with what
00:03:38
she was doing right she had more more tact as opposed to Revan's just brute force.
00:03:45
So yeah I agree with what you said Luke definitely has more you know like it takes like 10
00:03:51
hours to master something right but like Luke put in the 10 hours that kind of thing
00:03:56
that people always say right Luke put in the 10 hours Revan had a couple thousand hours
00:04:00
and he was just slinging around his his power thinking he's the boss.
00:04:04
Okay what about you Hobbs?
00:04:07
Luke slaps Revan five ways from Sunday.
00:04:11
Is that it?
00:04:14
Is that it?
00:04:17
Then period?
00:04:18
Like like like no period like like and that's not just anything that you guys have said
00:04:21
not just the stuff that you guys said but like the feats that Luke had alone literally
00:04:28
make Revan look like he's a part of the Mickey Mouse Club so.
00:04:33
The fact you know what I always think about when it comes to Luke is like the fact that
00:04:37
he's able he was able actually yeah he was the first person to navigate the maw which
00:04:43
is a cluster of black holes flew into the middle of a cluster of black holes using only
00:04:48
the force to kind of go through it and find the middle like like Revan could could never.
00:04:56
For real like it's just like he Luke is literally the Sorcerer Supreme of the Star Wars universe.
00:05:05
And you know he went toe to toe with Abeloth right Revan could not have gone toe to toe
00:05:10
with Abeloth.
00:05:11
Oh not with Abeloth?
00:05:12
Hell no.
00:05:13
Yeah no okay so the second question is Kalista Ming during Clone Wars or Mara Jade pre-assassin
00:05:23
are you asking who would win in that fight because if that's the case then definitely
00:05:26
Kalista Ming the one thing you got to understand about Mara Jade is before that she was an
00:05:31
assassin she only had well she didn't even really have the understanding she kind of
00:05:36
assumed it but Palpatine is the one who knew that she was force sensitive and that's how
00:05:42
he was able to communicate with her across the galaxy but she had no force training at
00:05:46
that point she was just kind of going on she was just kind of doing her own thing honestly.
00:05:52
Yeah and Kalista was a full on trained Jedi not close to master level but she probably
00:06:03
could have held her own in like a duel against Anakin at least Anakin will win for sure but
00:06:11
she could have held her own she could have definitely held her own in a fight versus
00:06:15
Anakin.
00:06:16
Hunter do you agree with that?
00:06:19
Yeah I mean we saw we saw her a little bit in Clone Wars right like you know back in
00:06:23
the books there I mean she she definitely was a Jedi you know and Mara was just a force
00:06:30
sensitive assassin there's there's no there's no contest there.
00:06:35
Absolutely absolutely.
00:06:38
And then he had a third question if Anakin had the high ground would he still have lost?
00:06:47
Uh yeah this answer this question was actually answered in Obi-Wan the show.
00:06:54
Yeah it didn't matter the master beat the apprentice yeah the the Padawan like we watched
00:07:01
Obi-Wan after 10 years of no you know cut off from the force almost still pull up and
00:07:06
beat uh beat Vader's butt right like he whooped his ass.
00:07:11
Obi-Wan was also the Padawan of Qui-Gon who was the Padawan of Dooku who was like the
00:07:20
best like duelist duelist of the Order so like granted Anakin is under Obi-Wan but technically
00:07:30
Obi-Wan is closer to Dooku than Anakin is so I'm gonna give that some credit too.
00:07:37
Yeah yeah even though Anakin is the one that eventually defeated Dooku right?
00:07:42
Yeah by killing him that scene is great.
00:07:46
I so I don't have any of you ever read the um well Hunter might have the novelization
00:07:52
of episode three by Matt Stover.
00:07:55
I had the I had the audiobook for it.
00:07:59
Okay well that I love that view of Dooku because you find out in the books that Dooku was like
00:08:11
racist isn't the right word but like he absolutely hated people who were like part droid or like
00:08:17
who had any kind of like non-human parts of the body so not only did he detest Anakin
00:08:23
for having like the droid hand but when Anakin's fighting him he slices off both of Dooku's
00:08:31
hands and Dooku's first thought is I'm a cripple now like I think that's hilarious like like
00:08:37
he's about to lose his life and he's like god damn it I ain't got no hands.
00:08:44
Yeah they talk that's what they talk about in the book right they that they um they were
00:08:48
trying to get the choreography from the book I believe to be in there and that deleted
00:08:52
scene if I if I'm remembering correctly.
00:08:54
I believe that it was a scene and it was and it was the same with um the duel with Sheev.
00:09:02
Sheev.
00:09:03
Yeah I know.
00:09:04
I can't wait till the one episode where we talk about Palpatine and his exploits because
00:09:09
I have a pretty outlandish theory about Palpatine and just to give you a hint I believe that
00:09:16
he is the like the galaxy's most powerful closeted gay man.
00:09:20
I oh oh I can hold on hold on I have ways to confirm that.
00:09:27
I'm glad someone is on this I'm so glad someone is on this train with me because like I have
00:09:33
ways to confirm that.
00:09:37
Man is too smart too sassy and too obsessed with a ripped blonde dude to not be a closeted
00:09:42
gay mastermind like no way.
00:09:44
Let me segue into how my man was just like good really really close on that one.
00:09:54
No but when we do the Palpatine episode we will need that I'm just gonna let you know
00:09:57
right now.
00:09:58
I'm gonna let you because I need it I need it for my case.
00:10:01
I need the world to know that Palpatine was a closeted gay.
00:10:05
I need the world to know that.
00:10:06
So the next question here is after Anakin was there a new Force Jesus slash chosen one
00:10:15
or was it only him and this question is from my brother.
00:10:18
We were talking about it the other day and he was basically asking me about Anakin we
00:10:22
were talking and I was like well yeah you know Anakin's like basically Force Jesus no
00:10:26
father was kind of conceived with the Force or the you know the the the the forcey spirit
00:10:32
the Holy Spirit equivalent whatever.
00:10:35
And my answer to this question is basically no.
00:10:40
The chosen one was a prophecy that started thousands of years you know even at the time
00:10:45
of Revan and a lot of like even like Jedi scholars and stuff had thought that the chosen
00:10:51
one at the time might have been Revan and there's a lot of people who thought that the
00:10:54
prophecy could possibly be Revan but no I think that it was basically just Anakin and
00:11:01
that he fulfilled the prophecy.
00:11:03
You know he's the one who ended up tossing Palpatine down the chute into the core of
00:11:08
the Death Star blowing him up and bringing a balance to the force.
00:11:13
I don't know if it brought balance to the force if that makes sense but definitely brought
00:11:17
a balance you know the the culmination of thousands of years of the rule of two coming
00:11:24
down literally falling down a shaft and exploding and I think that that's what he was supposed
00:11:32
to do and though it was a definitely a rocky road I still believe that you know basically
00:11:39
at the end of the day Anakin was the only chosen one and fulfilled the prophecy.
00:11:43
This is lies.
00:11:44
This is blasphemy that they teach you at the temple.
00:11:48
All right.
00:11:49
There's no way that Anakin ever fulfilled the dang prophecy because what did what did
00:11:57
he even accomplish.
00:11:58
He wiped out almost all the Jedi and he dropped some old dude down a chute but the old dude
00:12:04
actually happened to come back to life because magic force stuff that he can put his soul
00:12:09
into another body.
00:12:11
He never actually died.
00:12:12
So what did he actually accomplish.
00:12:14
Nothing.
00:12:15
He postponed the Empire being around for like 10 years.
00:12:18
Maybe five.
00:12:19
It's all lies.
00:12:20
He stopped but he stopped.
00:12:22
He brought in to the rule of two.
00:12:25
The Sith had changed.
00:12:27
Yes yes.
00:12:29
What about what about Snoke and Kylo.
00:12:31
They're basically the rule of two.
00:12:33
Okay look we've been in the entire episode.
00:12:37
This entire episode talking about legends and I get we talked about canon somewhat comparing
00:12:42
Luke Skywalker but I'm talking about legends in.
00:12:46
I mean I still think even to a degree it doesn't even work with Snoke because if like even
00:12:52
when Snoke was around Palpatine was still he had to somehow return so he was probably
00:12:57
already there in the beginning like in the background just somewhere just hiding.
00:13:02
And what was the planet called Exegol.
00:13:05
Yeah and Snoke was his little puppet so it was basically him all along anyway.
00:13:09
So I mean Kylo was just the next in a long line of skywalkers that keep getting tempted
00:13:15
into dumb stuff.
00:13:17
Okay you know what.
00:13:18
Well how about this.
00:13:19
To keep with the theme of today's episode let's do it like this.
00:13:24
So let's start about Anakin as the chosen one in legends and then Anakin as the chosen
00:13:30
one in in canon.
00:13:31
How about we do that because I feel like that makes it a little bit easier to battle and
00:13:35
talk about and I feel like I don't know it matches the theme at least.
00:13:41
Now you may have a you may have some points as far as the the canon goes but as far as
00:13:47
legends is concerned especially since like only towards the end of the legends timeline
00:13:53
like what with like two years of it still being the the canon of the time they tried
00:13:59
to incorporate the stuff from the Clone Wars with like the father and the the the daughter
00:14:06
and the son and everything.
00:14:09
And that was his time to shine and he he screwed it up.
00:14:13
Okay I can agree with that but I still believe he is the chosen one.
00:14:19
He could have been the chosen one but that that moment in my mind that was his chance
00:14:25
like the father the daughter the son he was supposed to take the father's place.
00:14:31
They're the like Celestials the big the big force wielders.
00:14:36
They're the ones that keep Abeloth locked up tight in her little ma cave.
00:14:41
Okay and then here comes Anakin with his his buddies and they show up in the whatever other
00:14:48
place it's called all right and what does he do?
00:14:52
He gets all of them killed instead of taking the father's place and putting some discipline
00:14:56
into the kids.
00:14:58
He gets them all killed ruins the whole balance unleashes Abeloth.
00:15:02
There's absolutely nothing about fulfilling the prophecy in that story matter of fact
00:15:07
he did the opposite of fulfilling the prophecy.
00:15:09
He probably created a new one where someone else had to deal with his problem.
00:15:12
I just I can't agree with that because ultimate balance in the force was was restored like
00:15:18
how because once Palpatine is gone that is the quickest shot for Luke Skywalker himself
00:15:26
to establish the new Jedi Order to bring but he didn't for so long.
00:15:32
Okay that that doesn't mean anything but you got to understand balance.
00:15:36
Okay balance to the force right so you have two bad guys Vader and Palpatine who are basically
00:15:46
for all intents and purposes the only major force users in the galaxy at the time.
00:15:51
Now you can kind of say that that like Luke is just naturally inclined to be super force
00:15:58
sensitive super powerful because he's a Skywalker but when those two big pieces die I mean you
00:16:04
got to think think about it like a scale heavily weighted on the dark side now these two pieces
00:16:09
are just gone and though like maybe maybe it's not perfect balance but there's basically
00:16:14
no one in the galaxy at the time who is big like big force like you literally got one
00:16:19
like granted there are other few offs here and there and everywhere and of course the
00:16:23
force is going to manifest itself but the fact of the matter is the last line of the
00:16:28
prophecy says a chosen one shall come born of no father and through him will ultimate
00:16:35
balance in the force be restored.
00:16:38
Just don't think that he brought balance to the force I just I don't I don't feel like
00:16:43
what he did yeah he he he got rid of you know big man Palpatine at the end of the day like
00:16:51
he come Palpatine comes back the guys the guys alive there's plenty of other big bads
00:16:57
that keep coming along like and all it really does is give Luke a little bit of time to
00:17:02
start trying to rebuild the Jedi Order but I don't think that was the time that that
00:17:07
Vader was supposed to shine Vader wasn't the part of the prophecy Vader wasn't supposed
00:17:11
to fall in the first place but because Palpatine groomed him for so long which is a topic that
00:17:18
we hear a lot about recently grooming since he groomed him for so long he was able to
00:17:22
turn him away from his destiny and turn him into something you know perverse so okay I
00:17:28
mean I understand like yes he did turn him away from his destiny like okay sure but his
00:17:35
son brought him back like that's that's he was redeemed it doesn't matter that he turned
00:17:40
away from his destiny he turned back to his destiny like a path like two roads diverged
00:17:46
in a yellow wood right but like in the end you're still going to get to to to whatever
00:17:51
goal is at the end like it doesn't matter that he was turned away and I mean that's
00:17:57
that's also part of the prophecy I mean it literally says when the force itself sickens
00:18:05
past and future must split and combine like so I mean I feel like that is indicative of
00:18:12
saying that you what you're talking about basically Palpatine swaying Anakin off of
00:18:18
his destiny I mean I feel like that's a hint at that the force itself sickens the chosen
00:18:24
one who is supposed to bring balance to the force is pulled off the course and the force
00:18:30
is sickened by it so I feel like the sickening more refers to the the way that the Jedi were
00:18:39
losing their touch with the force the not necessarily just pulling the chosen one away
00:18:45
and you know bringing power into the the Sith because balance is good and evil it's always
00:18:51
you know one or the other is going to be on top or fighting for you know control of the
00:18:56
other that's that's still balanced but the part where you say like you know past and
00:19:01
future split and then come back together right I think that straight is talking about the
00:19:07
father and the kids the past is the Celestials the future is Anakin and they split because
00:19:12
the father dies and they come together because Anakin takes his place and he is supposed
00:19:18
to to guide the the force through them but I still I still think that was his that is
00:19:23
his moment no but if that's the case if they must split and combine they never did surely
00:19:28
did they they fought and tried to kill each other well how did they combine well that
00:19:32
was the point Anakin was supposed to join with them in and like guide them that so so
00:19:38
is your point that the that the that the prophecy was never fulfilled yes my point is the prophecy
00:19:43
was never fulfilled the question is after Anakin was there a new force Jesus or chosen
00:19:47
one or was it only him so yes yes it was Alana is the new one no how is she the new one it
00:19:55
says a chosen one shall come born of no father we know her father we know how daddy the chosen
00:20:01
yeah yeah yeah I'm not saying chosen one in the terms of that prophecy that prophecy
00:20:06
he's done for it's gone it failed to do the thing he didn't do the thing sure it is this
00:20:13
is the only only prophecy we hear about really like how many prophecies in in Star Wars do
00:20:19
we do we know about I'm pretty sure only that one exactly so there's no precedent to say
00:20:23
that prophecies have to come true okay but there's also no president that to say that
00:20:28
there's a new chosen one but there is because we have a vision we have the knowledge that
00:20:33
that Kate is okay but using your using your logic against you like who's to say that that's
00:20:39
gonna come true it's especially since can it is especially we don't know it has a race
00:20:44
that exactly so you can't say that you have no empirical evidence to support your claim
00:20:51
that doesn't even make sense like no way like you could say I mean there were plenty of
00:20:57
force visions though like who's to say that a force vision is equivalent to a prophecy
00:21:02
but it's a little different because he was in the well of knowledge right it's a little
00:21:06
different because he was in the well of knowledge okay grants you those kinds of also he also
00:21:12
forced the change to happen right which means that the things like that can change that's
00:21:19
not you can't force a prophecy sure you can't no you can't who says you can't tell me what
00:21:25
you find me one other example ever in anything where someone has forced a prophecy come on
00:21:32
I'll wait I got time okay I feel like I feel like I could pull some like dune references
00:21:41
into here I feel like there's some stuff they did in dune if I remember correctly where
00:21:46
Paul just if you remember correctly uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh no good solid solid foundation
00:21:55
look here all right Alana is the new one they were building her up to be the new one that's
00:22:01
how it's gonna be you know what and I'll concede that I will concede that that that may maybe
00:22:07
they were building her up to be a new one but we don't know and I don't think that there's
00:22:12
enough evidence we never will yeah we never will but I don't think there's enough evidence
00:22:16
to even start start that argument like sure there was a force I feel like there's enough
00:22:21
to like get it going obviously there's not enough to like come at you here's the here's
00:22:26
the excerpt from this scripture saying XYZ but listen listen so so I'm gonna I'm gonna
00:22:33
I'm gonna take your point and make another point if you're going to say that then I'm
00:22:36
gonna say no screw off it was been Skywalker because there was also a vision on a on a
00:22:41
battlefield of Ben Skywalker facing the Star and if anyone if I think that anyone has the
00:22:49
potential to be the next chosen one it's been Skywalker his dad is Luke Skywalker his mother
00:22:56
is Mara Jade both of which are incredibly more strong in the force compared to Jason
00:23:02
Solo and Tenno Kaa having a child together okay I have I so I and I have the same but
00:23:09
I have the I have the same base you do a vision from two different people at that you've got
00:23:13
one person I've got two coming from two stronger force parents that's fair that's fair however
00:23:20
I got the exact same didn't come from the well of knowledge okay but it could have we
00:23:24
don't know they didn't look well there you go so you have no you I have just as strong
00:23:29
of an argument as you do that's the point I'm trying to make I'm not saying it's a strong
00:23:34
argument I'm just saying in my opinion the question was do you think that there's another
00:23:38
chosen one and I think there is I can I can definitely see that like I can definitely
00:23:43
see the point you're arguing I just disagree now I do think the actual prophecy itself
00:23:50
is open to interpretation I think that especially since I believe it's a Yoda who says a prophecy
00:23:56
misread could have been something like that I think talking strictly legends in my opinion
00:24:03
it was only ever Anakin as the chosen one and it's only and I know it's like probably
00:24:09
the weakest point that I have but it's it's literally and simply because the fact that
00:24:17
the prophecy says a chosen one shall come born of no father I think I'm not denying
00:24:22
that Anakin was the chosen one at all especially in terms of that prophecy I agree that he
00:24:28
was the chosen I'm totally on board with that I just don't think that he brought balance
00:24:33
to the force I don't think he fulfilled the prophecy fully okay well we can go with that
00:24:39
and even though he may maybe he didn't bring the prophecy I'm willing to concede that point
00:24:46
also I still think that he was the only chosen one and that that is my that that's because
00:24:51
the question is asking after Anakin was there a new force Jesus a chosen one or was only
00:24:55
him my answer is that it was only him it was only ever him there was never a prophet like
00:24:59
though we have a vision of of Alana as queen of the Jedi there was never a prophecy I think
00:25:06
what makes Anakin the chosen one is the fact that there was a prophecy about him and though
00:25:10
he may not have fulfilled him he is the only one who meets the criteria of born of no father
00:25:15
to be the chosen one and that's why I think that it was only him that there was no one
00:25:19
else that was close to being the the chosen one described in that prophecy and that oh
00:25:25
yeah for sure that Anakin is like the answer to to brick three PO's question is the fact
00:25:31
that it was only him that's the point I I agree that in terms of that prophecy it is
00:25:38
only Anakin he is the only chosen one in terms of that prophecy I just do think that they
00:25:44
were building Alana up to be the next chosen one and I feel like at some point they would
00:25:50
have pulled a prophecy out of some random polychron that they found in some you know
00:25:55
forgotten temple or whatnot and would have busted out with a oh man she's the next you
00:26:00
know force goddess or whatever I think that was that was going to be the build up eventually
00:26:07
but they never got there of course because Disney stole it all I do agree that in terms
00:26:12
of the the prophecy in question no there's no one else except Anakin that fulfills that
00:26:18
that marker I win get rekt I win I'll eat dirt it's fine now now that we've we've we've
00:26:26
hashed out the legends I want to go back to canon because I think that my answer for canon
00:26:33
would still be the same way now originally I thought that after watching the force awakens
00:26:40
and the last Jedi that it could have been possible that Rey would have been the chosen
00:26:49
one until we got the rise of Skywalker and then you're like she's Palpatine's granddaughter
00:26:54
what what the hell like what are you guys doing because like that would have made sense
00:26:59
because we didn't know anything about her parents so if you had told me born of no father
00:27:04
I could have believed it ultimate balance to the force in my opinion because I feel
00:27:08
like Rey is the closest thing that we get to like a Grey Jedi in the canon timeline
00:27:15
at least from media's perspective yeah and so and I also agree that it kind of lines
00:27:23
up with the whole when the force itself sickens past and future must split and combine because
00:27:30
Luke went off and did his hermit thing and that's the past and then future you know she's
00:27:35
doing her own thing but then they come together at the end you know he she gets some you know
00:27:41
wisdom at least some guidance from him and that's them combining now it had stopped at
00:27:46
the last Jedi and told me that Rey could have been like the next chosen one I would have
00:27:51
I could have believed that until rise of Skywalker right until they showed you her literal parents
00:27:56
yeah exactly but but you know like so I guess I guess my my answer to that question for
00:28:02
canon is it's still only Anakin as as the chosen one I don't know what do you think
00:28:09
about that no I agree um Rey's definitely not the chosen one she I mean she's cool she's
00:28:15
Rey she's Palpatine's granddaughter which is definitely a thing on its own but yeah no
00:28:21
she's not the the chosen one she's just chosen by Palpatine to be the protagonist man I you
00:28:31
know what you know what I love about about Star Wars and Palpatine is that like regardless
00:28:36
of what timeline you're talking about that dude was an actual galaxy brain closeted gay
00:28:41
he he does he does do quite a bit of machination the inner machinations of my mind are an enigma
00:28:53
he's working for like forever to to infiltrate the the galactic Senate to because he doesn't
00:29:00
necessarily like you know fighting with lightsabers because he likes showing off his force powers
00:29:05
and his big brain more he orchestrates an entire war where the Jedi get them by the
00:29:12
army of Jedi killers that he used using their money and then you know afterwards after you
00:29:19
kill him and you think he's dead well he just comes right back all along that was his plan
00:29:24
and oh he has a granddaughter now so he can hop in that too all right so actually I don't
00:29:30
want to I don't want to miss you Hobbs did you have a did you have any answer to that
00:29:34
that one was that one was my chance to let you guys go at it while I ate popcorn so all
00:29:41
right so then we'll move on to the next question so we're going let's see this one was from
00:29:48
I believe this one's from quicks I think this one was from quicks is Starkiller from Star
00:29:53
Wars legends stronger than Darth Vader so in my honest opinion I think that Starkiller's
00:30:01
force potential is definitely greater than Darth Vader's because Darth not Anakin Skywalker
00:30:07
though because Anakin Skywalker with a full body the chosen one as Darth Vader would be
00:30:11
f***ing insane but Darth Vader after losing so many f***ing limbs I think that Starkiller
00:30:17
would definitely have more force potential but he just doesn't get the resources he
00:30:22
needs because he's trained in secret Palpatine doesn't know about him when he finds out he
00:30:28
orders him to die don't I don't think that he ever gets to be stronger than Darth Vader
00:30:33
so the answer to my answer to your question is no he's not stronger than Darth Vader but
00:30:39
he had the potential to be that that would be my honest answer to that question Hobbs
00:30:43
you want to go you you play the games more than I have um yeah no uh for sure I agree
00:30:49
now once it now if you got into the DLC where like you were like the Sith stalker one I
00:30:55
you could say that he would he possibly had the potential but like as far as it goes without
00:31:00
the DLC you get very very close but it's just like uh Nikita said he just didn't have the
00:31:08
resources or anything like that to be properly trained like if he were properly trained then
00:31:14
yeah but like like out of out of it all no absolutely not yeah I only ever played the
00:31:20
DS games so I never got DLC man but uh I agree I mean he he trained like you know he trained
00:31:26
Darth Vader trained him but like the master is kind of the same like Obi-Wan Anakin thing
00:31:31
like Anakin could try Anakin gets close but he never quite gets there to beat Obi-Wan
00:31:36
right same deal Starkiller tried he got close he got but he got trained by the dudes the
00:31:40
dude knows every one of his moves already he may have the potential but like you said he
00:31:45
just didn't get he didn't he got snuffed out before uh before he could make it yep and
00:31:50
that kind of that's a good segue into the next question that I got asked which was someone
00:31:53
asked is Luke actually stronger than Anakin and in my opinion the answer to that question
00:31:59
is yes because where Luke gets at the end is just way stronger than where Anakin had
00:32:05
time to because like losing the the one hand the first hand to dooku that's fine because
00:32:11
most of his body is still actually his body so he's a better conduit for the force but
00:32:17
by the time he becomes Darth Vader losing basically becoming a human stump kind of kind
00:32:24
of stops that now like I like I was mentioning before like if you have a Darth Vader where
00:32:29
the only thing that he is missing is his right hand I that that Vader trains or that yeah
00:32:37
that Vader trained to fruition kills Palpatine hands down like there's no way Palpatine could
00:32:43
ever compete that is a you gotta understand that is legitimately force Jesus like midi
00:32:47
chlorine count higher than Yoda coming straight out like a man like his mom got impregnated
00:32:53
by the force came out as just a royal badass trained late sure but any training to like
00:33:01
to completion to actual mastery of the force like I don't think there's anyone in the Star
00:33:06
Wars universe who would have been stronger than a fully trained Anakin with a human body
00:33:11
but when it comes down to if Luke is actually stronger than Anakin I think regardless of
00:33:16
if you look at it from a canon standpoint or if you look at it from a legend standpoint
00:33:21
the answer is always yes Luke is stronger than Anakin yeah I agree you know even we
00:33:26
never see like for instance well I mean Vader would never project himself across the universe
00:33:31
as like a force you know entity that he can looks real except for like you know the footprints
00:33:36
right also Luke was able to use force lightning in something Vader never could do and like
00:33:43
Luke had what shatter point Vader didn't have shattered point right like there there were
00:33:47
so many so many things that Luke could do that the Vader and Anakin just never never
00:33:53
got shattered even Jaina can you just point that is I love shattered point that's one
00:34:00
of my favorite points there is a new tabletop Star Wars game called Star Wars shattered
00:34:06
point and I want to talk to you about it after this because it looks awesome and I think
00:34:10
you'd like a lot oh bad you what is shattered point shattered point is a force skill that
00:34:16
allows you to see like how basically fate and what your actions intertwine to form crystallized
00:34:23
weak points that if you hit the entire thing will literally shatter or you know just disintegrate
00:34:29
Jason Solo use this on Beskar Jason Solo was able to shatter Beskar by tapping it just a
00:34:38
little tap that's that's how strong it is yeah it's literally like crystallizes a point
00:34:43
on an object or a person or whatever if you hit that point it's game over it doesn't matter
00:34:48
who would like the reason why Mace Windu does not kill Palpatine he sees his shatter point
00:34:54
and because Anakin intervenes the shatter point shifts and then he gets his shatter
00:35:00
point hit and dies like that that is basically the gist of it you hit someone's shatter point
00:35:05
is GG all right uh let's see moving on to the next question we got a lot of good questions
00:35:11
today we're not going to answer all of them today where this is going to be the last one
00:35:14
that we answer but anything that was asked that was not answered today we will get into
00:35:20
future episodes we'll make sure to keep a log of them but this next question was also
00:35:26
asked by our good friend Quicks and it is did the inhibitor chips in the clone troopers
00:35:33
heads really affect their aim when they got activated now what i'm going to say about
00:35:38
this is i personally do not think so and i don't have any evidence to support that i
00:35:46
i believe that the clone war like the clones until their death were just peak soldiers
00:35:53
who were clones of of one of the the like the best you know mandalorians of the time
00:35:59
the mandalore at that and i think that their aim wasn't really affected like maybe towards
00:36:06
the end when they get older but we i mean we even see rex as an old ass bald man in
00:36:11
the desert still still fucking them up basically um and so no i don't think that affected their
00:36:17
aim once it got activated i think the reason why clone trooper or not clone troopers why
00:36:22
storm troopers suck so much is that they stopped making clones and started enlisting people
00:36:28
and people suck that's basically why i think like as you progress from storm troopers to
00:36:33
or clone troopers to storm troopers you get less accurate shots because you just don't
00:36:38
have the bad asses that you that you had during the clone wars you've got regular old people
00:36:43
coming in conscripted and kind of trying to do their own thing and absolutely failing
00:36:47
at it that's why storm troopers suck yep absolutely yeah i have no points like conscripted soldiers
00:36:53
are not going to be better than an entire force of jango fetts you know sub mandalorian
00:36:59
clones who are trained from birth from birth yeah there's no way literally what was it
00:37:05
called was it the flash learning what was it called oh yeah yeah it was it was it was
00:37:10
flash learning they they literally just like downloaded it into their brains almost right
00:37:16
yeah so i think that that the inhibitor chip did nothing except for stop them from listening
00:37:22
to their own emotions and had to listen to direct orders which is what i mean like they
00:37:28
were clones but they were also like the books do a really good and you know what the clone
00:37:32
war series is a good job at showing us this too is that these they they may have been
00:37:36
clones as far as like genetic templates go but they were all their own individuals these
00:37:42
were all their own people they were not all jango fed they were all cloned from jango
00:37:46
fed but they were not all jango fed yeah that's what made it yeah something i love that they
00:37:50
brought back from the books you know they weren't just guys in helmets they were guys
00:37:54
in helmets who were different guys in each element yep they had names and identities
00:38:00
they had personalities oh yeah but that is all for this evening guys thank y'all so much
00:38:08
be sure to follow the podcast on youtube and on spotify at the force unscripted may the
00:38:15
force be with you thank y'all all so much for tuning in and we will see you all next
00:38:21
time i hope you guys enjoy the little ending song that we have played i got some music
00:38:27
commissioned and i hope you guys enjoy and we will catch you all later