NKDA, Hobbes, Wen'shi and BonkBonk discuss the difference between Luke Skywalker in both Star Wars timelines.
00:00:24 --> 00:00:26 It's nice to get to be here again and talk. to
00:00:26 --> 00:00:30 everyone, get to share one of the biggest parts
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00:00:41 --> 00:00:44 be getting into the heart of the show. So as
00:00:44 --> 00:00:47 I said before, we've got some returning people
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00:00:50 --> 00:00:52 if you were here last time, you remember Hobbs.
00:00:52 --> 00:00:55 He's my homie. Hobbs, give the people a... A
00:00:55 --> 00:00:57 quick little reintroduction of yourself, please.
00:00:58 --> 00:01:01 I am Hobbs, Monster Hunter for Nemesis and Advance
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00:01:09 --> 00:01:12 Star Wars gamer. I've been that way since I was
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00:01:18 --> 00:01:21 to my grandparents. And, oh yeah, we got a new
00:01:21 --> 00:01:23 toy to show off later on. We'll be talking about
00:01:23 --> 00:01:26 that when we get to my part. An old school homie
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00:01:32 --> 00:01:35 our resident Mandalorian expert. Hunter, go for
00:01:35 --> 00:01:40 it. What up, everybody? I'm Hunter, a Mandalorian
00:01:40 --> 00:01:43 fanboy since I was a kid. Started watching with
00:01:43 --> 00:01:45 my grandfather when I was like four or five,
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00:01:56 --> 00:01:58 I've read like almost every single book and my
00:01:58 --> 00:02:01 birthday is on Star Wars day. So I'm the ultimate
00:02:01 --> 00:02:04 fan here. I might not have as many lightsabers
00:02:04 --> 00:02:08 as Nikita, but you know, it is what it is. I'm
00:02:08 --> 00:02:10 happy to be here. That's cheating when she is
00:02:10 --> 00:02:12 not fair. It's totally fair. Your parents must
00:02:12 --> 00:02:14 have planned that. Yeah. Your parents planned
00:02:14 --> 00:02:17 that. I know it. I know it. All right, and then
00:02:17 --> 00:02:20 last but surely not least, we have good old Bonkity.
00:02:20 --> 00:02:22 Mr. Bonk Bonk has been a friend of mine since
00:02:22 --> 00:02:25 also high school. I believe I met him a year
00:02:25 --> 00:02:28 before I met Hunter. We've been friends ever
00:02:28 --> 00:02:29 since. We've had a couple of spats, but I mean,
00:02:29 --> 00:02:31 I don't think there's anyone I'm friends with
00:02:31 --> 00:02:35 that I haven't had a spat with. So Bonk Bonk,
00:02:35 --> 00:02:37 take it away. Hey, what's up, everyone? Guess
00:02:37 --> 00:02:40 I'm pretty much here just to keep everything
00:02:40 --> 00:02:42 grounded so these guys don't nerd out too much.
00:02:43 --> 00:02:47 I've watched basically all the trilogy. and that's
00:02:47 --> 00:02:50 my baseline so yeah all right one of my long
00:02:50 --> 00:02:52 -standing favorite characters of course it's
00:02:52 --> 00:02:55 kind of i don't want to say like expect it but
00:02:55 --> 00:02:58 everyone who has watched anything Star Wars knows
00:02:58 --> 00:03:01 the Skywalker name and so Luke Skywalker is a
00:03:01 --> 00:03:04 character that is really close to me for a lot
00:03:04 --> 00:03:07 of reasons you know I I just think he's overall
00:03:07 --> 00:03:10 one of the coolest characters at least as far
00:03:10 --> 00:03:12 as the Legends timeline is concerned and even
00:03:12 --> 00:03:15 when you think about canon you think that oh
00:03:15 --> 00:03:18 hey Luke Skywalker you know he is the last of
00:03:18 --> 00:03:21 his kind the last of the Jedi trained by another
00:03:21 --> 00:03:24 Jedi and so he's got a lot to love from both
00:03:24 --> 00:03:27 timelines but he's also very different in both
00:03:27 --> 00:03:30 timelines and and basically today's show today's
00:03:30 --> 00:03:33 episode we're going to be exploring some of the
00:03:33 --> 00:03:35 differences some of the similarities stuff that
00:03:35 --> 00:03:37 we like stuff that we don't like stuff that we
00:03:37 --> 00:03:39 wish we'd have seen and comparisons between luke
00:03:39 --> 00:03:42 skywalker from canon and luke skywalker from
00:03:42 --> 00:03:45 legends basically so in your guys's opinion who
00:03:45 --> 00:03:47 do you think was the stronger of the lukes the
00:03:47 --> 00:03:51 luke that is from the legends or the luke that
00:03:51 --> 00:03:54 we see in the sequel trilogy Yeah, Legends Luke
00:03:54 --> 00:03:57 is definitely the stronger of the Lukes, 100%.
00:03:57 --> 00:04:00 No questions asked. The Luke that we see in the
00:04:00 --> 00:04:05 movies, in the sequels, it's definitely a weakened
00:04:05 --> 00:04:08 Luke, definitely a Luke who's left the path,
00:04:08 --> 00:04:11 gone away from what we originally saw Luke. It's
00:04:11 --> 00:04:13 definitely a stark contrast to the original trilogy.
00:04:14 --> 00:04:17 But in Legends, we have a really long history
00:04:17 --> 00:04:21 of what Luke has done, and he's definitely had
00:04:21 --> 00:04:24 some weak points. Quite a few, actually, in Legends.
00:04:24 --> 00:04:26 But he's still stronger, I would say, in Legends.
00:04:26 --> 00:04:30 He always comes back. Whereas Luke in the sequels,
00:04:30 --> 00:04:33 man, just died off. Yeah, I really kind of agree
00:04:33 --> 00:04:36 with that. Like, the Luke that we see in Legends
00:04:36 --> 00:04:40 is, like, as a person, just feels so different.
00:04:40 --> 00:04:43 Because, you know, the Luke that we see in the
00:04:43 --> 00:04:46 canon stuff, he's a hermit, basically. Like,
00:04:46 --> 00:04:49 he wants to be by himself, all alone. And the
00:04:49 --> 00:04:52 Luke that you see in Legends... is literally
00:04:52 --> 00:04:55 the exact opposite like every time he goes until
00:04:55 --> 00:04:58 the very end of the the timeline books wise he
00:04:58 --> 00:05:00 never wants to be away from it he's forced to
00:05:00 --> 00:05:03 go away like when he gets exiled from Coruscant
00:05:03 --> 00:05:05 like of course like he's forced to be apart from
00:05:05 --> 00:05:08 the Jedi Order but even then he's still like
00:05:08 --> 00:05:10 directly involved through like these roundabout
00:05:10 --> 00:05:13 ways you know using his son because his son Ben
00:05:13 --> 00:05:16 is technically not excommunicated he's just hanging
00:05:16 --> 00:05:19 with his dad and it's just it's it's so weird
00:05:19 --> 00:05:23 to see this Luke that is just completely different
00:05:23 --> 00:05:26 from that because like me and Hunter grew up
00:05:26 --> 00:05:27 with these books that we were thinking were always
00:05:27 --> 00:05:30 going to be the story and you know when Disney
00:05:30 --> 00:05:33 gets control of it they end up not being and
00:05:33 --> 00:05:36 it's just it's it's such a different Luke it's
00:05:36 --> 00:05:38 such a different Luke anybody thought that I
00:05:38 --> 00:05:40 was gonna say that uh the canon Luke was better
00:05:40 --> 00:05:43 no no Legends Luke definitely takes that because
00:05:43 --> 00:05:48 uh man I was there for a lot of Legends Luke
00:05:48 --> 00:05:51 and it just appointed me when we got what we
00:05:51 --> 00:05:55 got. Like the Luke from the Jedi Academy series
00:05:55 --> 00:06:00 and whatnot, you know, that trained... remade
00:06:00 --> 00:06:04 the jedi order and with kyle katarn um luke that
00:06:04 --> 00:06:08 fought that clone of uh of palpatine you know
00:06:08 --> 00:06:10 luke that that went through kind of sort of the
00:06:10 --> 00:06:13 same thing that his father did fell to the dark
00:06:13 --> 00:06:15 side a little bit and then came back that's the
00:06:15 --> 00:06:18 luke i wanted and i'm sad that we didn't get
00:06:18 --> 00:06:22 that yeah definitely and you know it's another
00:06:22 --> 00:06:24 thing too that i think about often and you mentioned
00:06:24 --> 00:06:28 it is like i you know what i could be wrong i'm
00:06:28 --> 00:06:32 not i don't know that the canon luke has that
00:06:32 --> 00:06:34 same struggle with the dark side and i think
00:06:34 --> 00:06:36 that's something that's really important for
00:06:36 --> 00:06:39 our legends luke because he learns about the
00:06:39 --> 00:06:43 light side he learns about the dark side we know
00:06:43 --> 00:06:47 that he has a different view on love than jedi
00:06:47 --> 00:06:50 for thousands of years previously had where he
00:06:50 --> 00:06:54 believes that love is not an inhibitor something
00:06:54 --> 00:06:57 that draws to the dark side but instead strengthens
00:06:57 --> 00:07:00 and empowers the light side which is something
00:07:00 --> 00:07:07 exactly i miss her i miss her so much not only
00:07:07 --> 00:07:11 does Luke see his father, Anakin sees it. There
00:07:11 --> 00:07:13 are other Jedi within the order during the time
00:07:13 --> 00:07:16 of the clone wars that see it. Revan sees it.
00:07:16 --> 00:07:19 That connection is not necessarily a way to,
00:07:19 --> 00:07:23 I mean, like if abused or. you know follow through
00:07:23 --> 00:07:25 incorrectly yes of course it can lead to the
00:07:25 --> 00:07:26 dark side but you can say that about most things
00:07:26 --> 00:07:30 but the fact that luke in legends in his establishment
00:07:30 --> 00:07:32 of the academy allows them to marry because like
00:07:32 --> 00:07:35 two of my favorite jedi masters of all time are
00:07:35 --> 00:07:37 cam and tion solasar and they are just straight
00:07:37 --> 00:07:40 up the it couple as far as the jedi go i mean
00:07:40 --> 00:07:43 they're married they raise all of like the younglings
00:07:43 --> 00:07:46 in the temple to become jedi knights like and
00:07:46 --> 00:07:48 there's absolutely nothing wrong with that relationship
00:07:48 --> 00:07:51 and that's something that you know like luke
00:07:51 --> 00:07:53 pursues in the legends timeline as far as canon
00:07:53 --> 00:07:56 is concerned i mean there's no mara jade so you
00:07:56 --> 00:07:58 don't we don't really know what his love life
00:07:58 --> 00:08:01 was he's a hermit which would never happen because
00:08:01 --> 00:08:06 he would never leave the stuff like when i found
00:08:06 --> 00:08:10 out that luke in canon gave up because he feels
00:08:10 --> 00:08:13 like he failed the future generation of jedi
00:08:13 --> 00:08:14 and just abandoned the cat what i heard that
00:08:14 --> 00:08:17 i was like Luke would never do that. I mean,
00:08:17 --> 00:08:19 he failed a couple times when he was starting
00:08:19 --> 00:08:21 in Legends and he still didn't give up. Where
00:08:21 --> 00:08:26 did this Luke come from? I wanted to stand up
00:08:26 --> 00:08:31 and scream like, that Luke's a bloody spy! Yeah,
00:08:31 --> 00:08:34 I think they lied a little bit about his reasonings
00:08:34 --> 00:08:38 for leaving. They said he felt like he failed
00:08:38 --> 00:08:41 the new Jedi Order, right? But in reality, he
00:08:41 --> 00:08:44 was just... scared he just gave in to the fear
00:08:44 --> 00:08:48 is in my opinion because we see him like he builds
00:08:48 --> 00:08:51 up this new jedi order and then he gets like
00:08:51 --> 00:08:54 one vision or two or three or whatever you know
00:08:54 --> 00:08:58 from big boy snoke and it's like look your boy
00:08:58 --> 00:09:02 uh your boy ben's gonna go evil right and he's
00:09:02 --> 00:09:04 like damn i gotta kill him he just gave in to
00:09:04 --> 00:09:06 the fear he was scared that he was gonna tear
00:09:06 --> 00:09:08 down everything he built up and then he realized
00:09:09 --> 00:09:11 that he he was you know giving into the dark
00:09:11 --> 00:09:13 side just giving into the fear to the passion
00:09:13 --> 00:09:16 right and uh and then he just cut himself off
00:09:16 --> 00:09:18 from the force because it destroyed what he had
00:09:18 --> 00:09:20 built he was just too scared of coming back we
00:09:20 --> 00:09:23 see in um when leia and han and them in cloud
00:09:23 --> 00:09:25 city are in trouble right he leaves you know
00:09:25 --> 00:09:28 dagobah from training with yoda because he feels
00:09:28 --> 00:09:30 that they're in danger right across the galaxy
00:09:30 --> 00:09:34 but then rey shows up to you know meet with luke
00:09:34 --> 00:09:36 and he's like where's han He has no clue what's
00:09:36 --> 00:09:38 going on because he hasn't touched the Force
00:09:38 --> 00:09:40 in how long? I mean, we saw what that did to
00:09:40 --> 00:09:43 Obi -Wan in the Obi -Wan show in canon, right?
00:09:44 --> 00:09:46 Like, you cut yourself off from the Force and
00:09:46 --> 00:09:48 you just get weak as heck. You see it in the,
00:09:48 --> 00:09:52 what's the game? Yeah, Fallen Order. Between
00:09:52 --> 00:09:55 Sierra and Cal. Yeah, they cut themselves off
00:09:55 --> 00:09:57 from the Force. And it's like, I mean, you would
00:09:57 --> 00:09:59 imagine it's like, I think they describe it in
00:09:59 --> 00:10:01 one of the Legends books was like, when you cut
00:10:01 --> 00:10:04 yourself off the Force, it's like. ripping off
00:10:04 --> 00:10:07 one of your limbs that you're just used to having
00:10:07 --> 00:10:09 at that point and now you no longer have it so
00:10:09 --> 00:10:12 it's it's kind of awkward to just do everyday
00:10:12 --> 00:10:15 things at that point luke was luke was willing
00:10:15 --> 00:10:18 to cut off a limb essentially because he was
00:10:18 --> 00:10:20 scared of you know screwing up again or whatever
00:10:20 --> 00:10:24 you know the dark side taken over but i mean
00:10:24 --> 00:10:26 he just let it happen anyway yeah and i think
00:10:26 --> 00:10:30 that that's something that is uh that is also
00:10:30 --> 00:10:32 fundamentally different between the book because
00:10:32 --> 00:10:36 the the luke of legends he'll fall flat on his
00:10:36 --> 00:10:38 face and just get right back up and go back through
00:10:38 --> 00:10:43 it does not does not matter yeah every other
00:10:43 --> 00:10:45 book there's some darksider that draws him into
00:10:45 --> 00:10:50 the dark side right like hey bonk bonk question
00:10:50 --> 00:10:53 for you since you're the uh the least star wars
00:10:53 --> 00:10:56 knowledgeable technically was there anything
00:10:56 --> 00:10:59 that you really noticed between the original
00:10:59 --> 00:11:02 trilogy and the sequel trilogy about luke that
00:11:02 --> 00:11:05 kind of irked you i mean he mainly just looked
00:11:06 --> 00:11:09 underpowered he just outside of the what and
00:11:09 --> 00:11:12 i can't remember the scene exactly but where
00:11:12 --> 00:11:15 he's basically getting blasted by that ship that's
00:11:15 --> 00:11:17 the only significant thing he really did outside
00:11:17 --> 00:11:20 of like oh you're talking about in the last jedi
00:11:20 --> 00:11:22 when he like force projects himself across the
00:11:22 --> 00:11:24 fucking universe yeah outside of that wasn't
00:11:24 --> 00:11:28 even there yeah now now that i thought was pretty
00:11:28 --> 00:11:30 cool that was probably like one of the the best
00:11:30 --> 00:11:32 parts of the last jedi was that scene and and
00:11:32 --> 00:11:35 holdo but i thought that part was pretty cool
00:11:35 --> 00:11:37 but yeah he definitely did seem underpowered
00:11:37 --> 00:11:40 in my opinion at least from the movie standpoint
00:11:40 --> 00:11:43 now we're still getting books about this time
00:11:43 --> 00:11:45 period so maybe there's something we're missing
00:11:45 --> 00:11:48 maybe there's something that we haven't yet discovered
00:11:48 --> 00:11:51 about that luke skywalker but the whole heart
00:11:51 --> 00:11:54 the hermit thing was yoda Like that was Yoda's
00:11:54 --> 00:11:58 thing. And I feel like Luke forgot who he was
00:11:58 --> 00:12:01 and fell into who he or what he thought he needed
00:12:01 --> 00:12:03 to do. Right. Because like, I guess when you
00:12:03 --> 00:12:05 because, you know, he didn't know much about
00:12:05 --> 00:12:08 the force in general until he met Obi -Wan. And
00:12:08 --> 00:12:11 then it's Yoda who finished his training. So
00:12:11 --> 00:12:13 I guess when things went bad, he was like, well,
00:12:13 --> 00:12:15 I guess I'll do what Yoda did in time of crisis
00:12:15 --> 00:12:17 and go hide out in the middle of bumfuck Russia
00:12:17 --> 00:12:20 and then just hope someone finds me when they
00:12:20 --> 00:12:25 need to be trained. Seriously, it's like when
00:12:25 --> 00:12:29 you see a boss character use a weapon and then
00:12:29 --> 00:12:31 you're able to get the weapon and the weapon
00:12:31 --> 00:12:34 is just amazing or you get to use it for two
00:12:34 --> 00:12:37 minutes and it's a fantastic weapon. And then
00:12:37 --> 00:12:40 they say, okay, you have now obtained this weapon
00:12:40 --> 00:12:42 and you can't do half of the stuff that you were
00:12:42 --> 00:12:46 doing before. That's what it felt like to me.
00:12:46 --> 00:12:50 I was like, this definitely isn't the Luke that
00:12:50 --> 00:12:53 I know of. The Luke that I know of doesn't become
00:12:53 --> 00:12:58 like Obi -Wan or Yoda. Again, he rebuilds the
00:12:58 --> 00:13:02 Order and tears ass across the galaxy. Okay,
00:13:02 --> 00:13:05 so that being said... Which one do you think
00:13:05 --> 00:13:09 was more true to being a Jedi? Do you think it
00:13:09 --> 00:13:11 was Canon Luke or do you think it was Legends
00:13:11 --> 00:13:13 Luke and why? Because you also got to understand
00:13:13 --> 00:13:16 that the sort of, and depending actually on both
00:13:16 --> 00:13:19 timelines, the definition of being a Jedi changes
00:13:19 --> 00:13:24 post -Order 66, right? So who do you think was
00:13:24 --> 00:13:28 closer to being a true Jedi? And do you think
00:13:28 --> 00:13:31 that they were closer to being? to a true jedi
00:13:31 --> 00:13:34 before order 66 or after order 66 all right i'll
00:13:34 --> 00:13:37 take it so the look we see in disney can is true
00:13:37 --> 00:13:41 to what a jedi was before the fall of the republic
00:13:41 --> 00:13:45 they were like prideful thinking like they're
00:13:45 --> 00:13:48 going to rebuild whatever you know their stuff's
00:13:48 --> 00:13:50 not going to fail and then one little bump comes
00:13:50 --> 00:13:53 along in the road and then everything falls apart
00:13:53 --> 00:13:56 right they all like start to I mean, seriously,
00:13:56 --> 00:13:59 like, you know, he's got one force vision and
00:13:59 --> 00:14:01 all of a sudden, you know, he tears apart everything
00:14:01 --> 00:14:04 he's built up. Like, that's definitely, you know,
00:14:04 --> 00:14:08 the Republic, you know, kind of thinking, right?
00:14:08 --> 00:14:10 The Jedi, like, thought they could do no wrong.
00:14:10 --> 00:14:13 You know, everything was great. And then, you
00:14:13 --> 00:14:15 know, one bump along the road and then all of
00:14:15 --> 00:14:18 a sudden they're generals in an army and and
00:14:18 --> 00:14:20 then they're all dead. You know, they made so
00:14:20 --> 00:14:23 many poor decisions just because I think, you
00:14:23 --> 00:14:25 know, a lot of it's because they were prideful,
00:14:25 --> 00:14:27 because they're like, we're the Jedi. Like, you
00:14:27 --> 00:14:29 know, we got this. We're great. We're peacekeepers.
00:14:29 --> 00:14:32 But then the peacekeepers are being used, you
00:14:32 --> 00:14:34 know, as a war machine. I think he's more like
00:14:34 --> 00:14:36 that, you know, and then one bump along the road
00:14:36 --> 00:14:40 runs away, hides. He's like, this is it. We're
00:14:40 --> 00:14:43 all we're all done. No more Jedi. Same thing
00:14:43 --> 00:14:46 that they did when Order 66 happened. Okay, so
00:14:46 --> 00:14:49 then the follow -up question for you is, do you
00:14:49 --> 00:14:53 think Luke of Legends was the better overall
00:14:53 --> 00:14:58 Jedi? If we're saying somebody who stuck to the
00:14:58 --> 00:15:01 teachings of his teacher and just carried on
00:15:01 --> 00:15:05 with their legacy, canon Luke is more like that.
00:15:05 --> 00:15:08 However, if we're talking about somebody who
00:15:08 --> 00:15:13 follows the... you know, peace and being like
00:15:13 --> 00:15:16 just a general good person, rebuilding an order,
00:15:16 --> 00:15:19 training the younglings, like protecting people.
00:15:19 --> 00:15:22 Legends is way better at that. I mean, we haven't
00:15:22 --> 00:15:25 seen much instances of Kan and Luke doing actual
00:15:25 --> 00:15:29 Jedi stuff after the fall of the Empire, except
00:15:29 --> 00:15:32 for the like few minutes where we see him pick
00:15:32 --> 00:15:35 up Grogu. So there's definitely a lot lacking
00:15:35 --> 00:15:37 there in the timeline. I'm hoping we get some
00:15:37 --> 00:15:39 more like... A little bit more Luke stuff in
00:15:39 --> 00:15:43 the coming shows and books and movies. But if
00:15:43 --> 00:15:45 we're talking sticking to their guns, sticking
00:15:45 --> 00:15:48 to the this is the Jedi way and we have to follow
00:15:48 --> 00:15:50 it and no attachments and that kind of thing,
00:15:50 --> 00:15:53 canon Luke is more of it. But if we're talking
00:15:53 --> 00:15:56 about like peace, love, unity, that kind of thing,
00:15:56 --> 00:16:00 Legends. See, I, you know, I can agree with that.
00:16:00 --> 00:16:04 I definitely can. I personally, the way that
00:16:04 --> 00:16:09 I see it is I kind of compare them. to like different
00:16:09 --> 00:16:12 characters in animes that i've seen i know it's
00:16:12 --> 00:16:16 it's nerdy but i like that because that's the
00:16:16 --> 00:16:18 best way that i can understand it and i can get
00:16:18 --> 00:16:20 other people to understand it so like when i
00:16:20 --> 00:16:23 think about this isn't nerdy yeah exactly exactly
00:16:23 --> 00:16:29 so i uh i always think about legends luke like
00:16:29 --> 00:16:33 all might from my hero academia he's the symbol
00:16:33 --> 00:16:36 of peace the symbol of hope he's there and he's
00:16:36 --> 00:16:40 always there until you know when the time comes
00:16:40 --> 00:16:43 and he isn't and that's kind of how the timeline
00:16:43 --> 00:16:47 book -wise for Legends ends. He's like, hey,
00:16:47 --> 00:16:50 it's finally time. I'm stepping down. I've done
00:16:50 --> 00:16:52 all this. I've been fighting for 40 goddamn years.
00:16:52 --> 00:16:55 I'm tired. I done trained a whole academy. Y
00:16:55 --> 00:16:57 'all should be good. Y 'all were good when they
00:16:57 --> 00:17:00 exiled me from Coruscant. Y 'all should be good
00:17:00 --> 00:17:04 now. I'm finna go chill. My wife is dead. My
00:17:04 --> 00:17:07 son done grown up. I'm finna go be a lonely hermit
00:17:07 --> 00:17:09 now. And that makes sense. When you think of
00:17:09 --> 00:17:11 Luke as a hermit, getting to that point after
00:17:11 --> 00:17:14 five years, fighting for the galaxy for 40, 40
00:17:14 --> 00:17:16 odd years. Like, okay, fine. You've deserved
00:17:16 --> 00:17:19 your hermit time. Go be alone, drink your blue
00:17:19 --> 00:17:22 milk and, and, and, and eat your, your, your
00:17:22 --> 00:17:25 potatoes and be okay. But when I think about
00:17:25 --> 00:17:31 like the Luke from cannons, I always like, it's,
00:17:31 --> 00:17:35 it's hard for me to find like an exact, accurate
00:17:35 --> 00:17:40 character of. who he's like because there are
00:17:40 --> 00:17:43 so few mcs out there that are just like all right
00:17:43 --> 00:17:46 i messed up bye and they're gone and then they
00:17:46 --> 00:17:49 only come back when they're like oh well maybe
00:17:49 --> 00:17:52 i should do something kind of cool and then die
00:17:52 --> 00:17:55 you know because that's that's just how canon
00:17:55 --> 00:17:58 luke feels to me it's like he doesn't want anything
00:17:58 --> 00:18:01 to be a part of it he's so different from legends
00:18:01 --> 00:18:07 luke The Luke that I know, and Mark Hamill has
00:18:07 --> 00:18:09 even said this, is not the Luke that I'm seeing
00:18:09 --> 00:18:13 now. Because I can't imagine a Luke that's out
00:18:13 --> 00:18:16 of contact with Han and Leia. I can't imagine
00:18:16 --> 00:18:19 a Luke that would leave R2 behind. I can't imagine
00:18:19 --> 00:18:23 a Luke that would be out there and have someone
00:18:23 --> 00:18:26 come seek them out when they know that they have
00:18:26 --> 00:18:29 tried to hide from people and be so unreceptive
00:18:29 --> 00:18:32 to them. From the get -go. And have to be won
00:18:32 --> 00:18:36 over. It's just so drastically different. It's
00:18:36 --> 00:18:39 just completely different. And that's my take
00:18:39 --> 00:18:43 on it. I always think that the truest Jedi. Will
00:18:43 --> 00:18:46 be the Legends version. I understand what you're
00:18:46 --> 00:18:48 saying Hunter. And I agree to some sense. But
00:18:48 --> 00:18:51 I don't care if you're talking about. pre -order
00:18:51 --> 00:18:55 66 or post -order 66 i gotta give it to to to
00:18:55 --> 00:18:59 legends i'm sorry i i as as as cool as the canon
00:18:59 --> 00:19:04 luke can be sometimes the other luke was always
00:19:04 --> 00:19:06 kind of you knew what he was going to do you
00:19:06 --> 00:19:09 knew he was going to always rely on the force
00:19:09 --> 00:19:12 have faith in the force it may waver occasionally
00:19:12 --> 00:19:14 but something always pulled him back whether
00:19:14 --> 00:19:16 it was the love for his son the grief that he
00:19:16 --> 00:19:19 went through losing his wife or the love that
00:19:19 --> 00:19:22 he you know received from his sister and brother
00:19:22 --> 00:19:25 -in -law he was always he was always luke you
00:19:25 --> 00:19:27 know legends legends luke definitely embodies
00:19:27 --> 00:19:31 what it means to be a jedi like what they should
00:19:31 --> 00:19:34 be right what they're what they say they stand
00:19:34 --> 00:19:37 for but canon luke is more embodies what they
00:19:37 --> 00:19:40 actually were is kind of how i how i view it
00:19:40 --> 00:19:44 flawed and ugly and they probably smelt like
00:19:44 --> 00:19:47 mothballs i don't know how many robes did they
00:19:47 --> 00:19:48 actually have they probably all smelled like
00:19:48 --> 00:19:50 mothballs yeah probably i don't know the first
00:19:50 --> 00:19:52 time i ever saw yoda i was like he probably smelled
00:19:52 --> 00:19:56 like mothballs in my opinion it would uh definitely
00:19:56 --> 00:20:02 have to be legends luke and uh all the points
00:20:02 --> 00:20:05 that were given were all spot on so i'm not gonna
00:20:05 --> 00:20:08 add to that because um it's all true all of it
00:20:08 --> 00:20:13 uh but no like the With everything that he did
00:20:13 --> 00:20:15 throughout, like, the stories, even when he was
00:20:15 --> 00:20:17 a side character in some of the other games,
00:20:17 --> 00:20:22 it's just, it felt like, you know, once he came,
00:20:22 --> 00:20:25 you know, it was just like, oh, here's this Jedi
00:20:25 --> 00:20:29 every single time. And again, we don't know,
00:20:29 --> 00:20:31 of course, we don't know much about what will
00:20:31 --> 00:20:33 happen between, you know, Return of the Jedi
00:20:33 --> 00:20:37 and... Force Awakens. But it just, that just,
00:20:37 --> 00:20:39 I was like, that just doesn't, I didn't believe
00:20:39 --> 00:20:43 it was Luke. It was just, it was just not, it
00:20:43 --> 00:20:46 just didn't convince me that that's what would
00:20:46 --> 00:20:50 happen to Luke. at all and and in all three of
00:20:50 --> 00:20:52 the movies it was just like i i feel like they're
00:20:52 --> 00:20:54 they're trying to go for this whole old kung
00:20:54 --> 00:20:59 fu master thing with him and it's just it's it's
00:20:59 --> 00:21:01 it's not working for me because like the loop
00:21:01 --> 00:21:03 that i remembered if that if that loop meant
00:21:03 --> 00:21:07 ray you know he would literally sit there listen
00:21:07 --> 00:21:10 to what she had to say and you know he would
00:21:10 --> 00:21:12 tell her that she would he would train her and
00:21:12 --> 00:21:15 then take action you know he would be like i
00:21:15 --> 00:21:17 you know there's something going on i have to
00:21:17 --> 00:21:19 take I'm clearly the person that needs to be
00:21:19 --> 00:21:22 the one to take care of this. So I'm going to
00:21:22 --> 00:21:25 take care of this. Have you heard a theory about
00:21:25 --> 00:21:29 Snoke being a Luke clone from the hand of Cloud
00:21:29 --> 00:21:32 City? Of Cloud City? I heard that one too. And
00:21:32 --> 00:21:34 I was like, if that's true, that'd be insane.
00:21:35 --> 00:21:38 If it turned out to be that way, I would have
00:21:38 --> 00:21:40 been like, wow, you guys actually had the guts
00:21:40 --> 00:21:43 to do that. I think we're going to find out.
00:21:44 --> 00:21:47 There's quite a bit of credible evidence for
00:21:47 --> 00:21:49 that case, but I want to see how that plays out.
00:21:49 --> 00:21:53 That would be a really cool thing. like in legends
00:21:53 --> 00:21:57 that same hand is how we got the clone luke that
00:21:57 --> 00:22:01 was there with uh the clone of uh joro sabath
00:22:01 --> 00:22:04 and they have yeah i remember that but it was
00:22:04 --> 00:22:07 because of the hand from cloud city so it'd be
00:22:07 --> 00:22:10 cool if they they kind of tied that into the
00:22:10 --> 00:22:12 canon timeline i would actually be down for that
00:22:12 --> 00:22:15 i would 100 be down for that but the part of
00:22:15 --> 00:22:19 all the thrawn stuff right we're getting all
00:22:19 --> 00:22:21 that stuff coming up so I mean there's definitely
00:22:21 --> 00:22:23 potential for that yeah yeah I believe that was
00:22:23 --> 00:22:26 the Hand of Thrawn duology it was definitely
00:22:26 --> 00:22:29 Timothy Zahn who wrote that so because he had
00:22:29 --> 00:22:32 to tie in his outbound flight stuff so but the
00:22:32 --> 00:22:36 other thing that I I'm not gonna lie the stuff
00:22:36 --> 00:22:39 that I was really looking forward to man let
00:22:39 --> 00:22:41 me tell you something Luke in the Legends timeline
00:22:41 --> 00:22:46 when it comes to love is a f*** mess this man
00:22:46 --> 00:22:51 falls in love with like a secret sith he falls
00:22:51 --> 00:22:55 in love with a goddamn computer like i'm not
00:22:55 --> 00:22:58 joking this man actually cuddles with a spirit
00:22:58 --> 00:23:03 locked inside of an entire computer like i want
00:23:03 --> 00:23:08 it i'm talking about calista he so basically
00:23:08 --> 00:23:11 oh calista oh my lord for those of you who are
00:23:11 --> 00:23:13 unfamiliar with the legends timeline basically
00:23:13 --> 00:23:17 uh palpatine palpatine was doing a lot of shit
00:23:17 --> 00:23:19 that we didn't even know about like this man
00:23:19 --> 00:23:22 was legitimately literally a galaxy brain and
00:23:22 --> 00:23:27 so he had another um super weapon different from
00:23:27 --> 00:23:29 the death star but still equally terrifying called
00:23:29 --> 00:23:33 the eye of palpatine and so basically sometime
00:23:33 --> 00:23:38 around the end of order 66 this sect of jedi
00:23:38 --> 00:23:40 who were like they were they were basically the
00:23:40 --> 00:23:43 weirdos of the jedi um they were allowed to marry
00:23:43 --> 00:23:45 and have interpersonal relationships and stuff
00:23:45 --> 00:23:49 and they go they're around you know running around
00:23:49 --> 00:23:50 the galaxy trying to stay hidden and they end
00:23:50 --> 00:23:54 up coming across the eye of palpatine and calista
00:23:54 --> 00:23:56 It's Callista Ming, right? I believe that's her
00:23:56 --> 00:23:59 full name and her partner. I can't remember what
00:23:59 --> 00:24:01 her partner's name was. But basically, they're
00:24:01 --> 00:24:05 on this ship. They're trying to get off and her
00:24:05 --> 00:24:07 partner can't survive. So he ends up giving his
00:24:07 --> 00:24:11 life to save her. But she ends up getting caught
00:24:11 --> 00:24:15 also. So she transfers her essence into the eye
00:24:15 --> 00:24:18 to try to take control of it so that it doesn't
00:24:18 --> 00:24:21 go haywire and is unleashed upon the galaxy.
00:24:22 --> 00:24:24 Well, fast forward about... I think it's about
00:24:24 --> 00:24:28 20 years from that moment. Luke is going around
00:24:28 --> 00:24:31 the galaxy trying to figure out and learn as
00:24:31 --> 00:24:33 much as he can about the Jedi of the past. Try
00:24:33 --> 00:24:37 to become the master that people need. Start,
00:24:37 --> 00:24:39 you know, making the new Jedi Academy and stuff.
00:24:39 --> 00:24:44 He comes across the Eye of Palpatine and is gets
00:24:44 --> 00:24:48 to like a main room with the computer and has
00:24:48 --> 00:24:52 like a force vision. where he's straight up booed
00:24:52 --> 00:24:56 up with the spirit of the Jedi that's inside
00:24:56 --> 00:24:59 of the Eye of Palpatine laying together. She
00:24:59 --> 00:25:01 rubbing on him, he rubbing on her, and he wake
00:25:01 --> 00:25:05 up and he like, yeah, I gotta have her. And just...
00:25:06 --> 00:25:10 i i find that story so hilarious homie was really
00:25:10 --> 00:25:12 out here so thirsty he fell in love with a computer
00:25:12 --> 00:25:16 like i wanted i wanted that to be a story like
00:25:16 --> 00:25:20 and then she she goes into the body of the or
00:25:20 --> 00:25:24 something right and comes out of the the eye
00:25:24 --> 00:25:26 of palpatine and then he's chasing her around
00:25:26 --> 00:25:28 the galaxy when she's in a different body oh
00:25:28 --> 00:25:31 yep yep and then she gets taken over by abeloth
00:25:31 --> 00:25:34 and he realizes he still loves her but then he's
00:25:34 --> 00:25:36 able to you know like eventually detach her from
00:25:36 --> 00:25:40 it and Yeah, that whole story is wild from start
00:25:40 --> 00:25:44 to finish. I mean, because she transfers her
00:25:44 --> 00:25:46 body back into a body that wasn't hers because
00:25:46 --> 00:25:48 the person who she did transfer the body willingly
00:25:48 --> 00:25:52 gave up her body since her lover had something
00:25:52 --> 00:25:55 happen to her lover. I forget what it was. I
00:25:55 --> 00:25:57 think he was a droid, right? He was a soul that
00:25:57 --> 00:26:00 was put into a droid. Can we get a fact check
00:26:00 --> 00:26:03 on that? Brick3PO? But I believe her boyfriend.
00:26:03 --> 00:26:07 Mingla. Yeah, I believe her boyfriend. Yeah,
00:26:07 --> 00:26:10 Cray. That's what her name was. And her boyfriend
00:26:10 --> 00:26:13 was like put into the body of like a cyborg or
00:26:13 --> 00:26:16 a droid. But Callista, when she took over Cray's
00:26:16 --> 00:26:19 body, she couldn't access the force unless it
00:26:19 --> 00:26:23 was the dark side. And so she left. She left
00:26:23 --> 00:26:26 to try to like. find herself find a way because
00:26:26 --> 00:26:29 she was like if if i have to use the force and
00:26:29 --> 00:26:31 it's only the dark side i'd rather not use the
00:26:31 --> 00:26:33 force and i'd rather not bring you down so she
00:26:33 --> 00:26:36 leaves luke luke heartbroken at this point but
00:26:36 --> 00:26:39 then 20 years after that, he finds her again.
00:26:39 --> 00:26:42 She's been possessed by this force deity, essentially.
00:26:43 --> 00:26:46 And he's trying to take over the universe. I
00:26:46 --> 00:26:48 was like, my man really lost his wife and is
00:26:48 --> 00:26:51 going through and seeing all of his exes possessed
00:26:51 --> 00:26:56 by this force deity. That is like a dream nightmare
00:26:56 --> 00:26:59 for me. Imagine finding the one for you who is...
00:27:00 --> 00:27:02 like you can share every bit of your being with
00:27:02 --> 00:27:05 them they share every bit of their being with
00:27:05 --> 00:27:08 you you lose them to your crazy ass nephew who
00:27:08 --> 00:27:10 poisons them and then all of a sudden all your
00:27:10 --> 00:27:14 exes come back possessed by some force god and
00:27:14 --> 00:27:16 you gotta kill them all i guess you know what
00:27:16 --> 00:27:19 no i'd be okay with that i mean lamia was was
00:27:19 --> 00:27:22 one of his exes too she wasn't possessed though
00:27:22 --> 00:27:25 he just offed her because He thought she was
00:27:25 --> 00:27:28 the one that killed Mara, right? He gets Lumia
00:27:28 --> 00:27:31 coming back. He's got Calista coming back. But
00:27:31 --> 00:27:35 yeah, that death was understandable. If the person
00:27:35 --> 00:27:38 who was... You know what? I don't care. Lumia
00:27:38 --> 00:27:41 was guilty regardless. Because she was the one
00:27:41 --> 00:27:45 training Jason. And Jason killed Mara. And she
00:27:45 --> 00:27:47 trained Jason. So by default, she also killed
00:27:47 --> 00:27:50 Mara. So nah, Luke deserved to mark her ass.
00:27:50 --> 00:27:54 She... she she needed to go she needed she had
00:27:54 --> 00:27:57 to go yeah i wish we had that sound clip of you
00:27:57 --> 00:28:00 need to leave because that's what that's what
00:28:00 --> 00:28:04 was that was her but yeah i i that was i know
00:28:04 --> 00:28:06 we kind of got off track but that was one thing
00:28:06 --> 00:28:10 that that i really wanted to see this luke like
00:28:10 --> 00:28:13 in regards to this luke i wanted to see the relationships
00:28:13 --> 00:28:15 because i feel like even though a lot of these
00:28:15 --> 00:28:19 relationships like whether it was lumia or alana
00:28:19 --> 00:28:23 from the um the fallen Aussie or Calista, regardless
00:28:23 --> 00:28:27 of which one it was. Luke talks about how, what
00:28:27 --> 00:28:30 he learned about love from each of those and
00:28:30 --> 00:28:33 how it made him a better Jedi. And like, for
00:28:33 --> 00:28:35 those of you who don't know Mara Jane, who ends
00:28:35 --> 00:28:37 up being his wife and they give birth to Ben
00:28:37 --> 00:28:40 Skywalker. Mara Jade was definitely something
00:28:40 --> 00:28:42 special to Luke. Started off as an assassin who
00:28:42 --> 00:28:46 wanted to kill him. She was the hand of the emperor.
00:28:46 --> 00:28:48 She was a force sensitive but didn't really know
00:28:48 --> 00:28:51 how to use her abilities at the time. And basically
00:28:51 --> 00:28:54 what happens is Luke and Mara kind of end up
00:28:54 --> 00:28:58 becoming intertwined in a sense because Luke
00:28:58 --> 00:29:00 was always working with this one mercenary group
00:29:00 --> 00:29:04 run by a dude named Talon Card who had took Mara
00:29:04 --> 00:29:08 in as basically his right hand. And she started
00:29:08 --> 00:29:11 learning her Force powers. And she's actually
00:29:11 --> 00:29:13 the person who coined the term Danger Sense because
00:29:13 --> 00:29:16 that's what she called it. She could always feel
00:29:16 --> 00:29:18 something going wrong because the Force was letting
00:29:18 --> 00:29:20 her know. And she's the one who coined the term
00:29:20 --> 00:29:22 Danger Sense. And you just got to think about
00:29:22 --> 00:29:25 it. Going from an assassin hell -bent on killing
00:29:25 --> 00:29:30 Luke to a liaison with a mercenary group to provide
00:29:30 --> 00:29:32 him information or backup when needed, whatever
00:29:32 --> 00:29:37 it may have been, to going to a... hidden facility
00:29:37 --> 00:29:41 of the empire of the hand fighting back to back
00:29:41 --> 00:29:44 in a room that's flooding with a bunch of droids
00:29:44 --> 00:29:47 trying to kill you and all of a sudden you sync
00:29:47 --> 00:29:48 up with this person in the forest and you're
00:29:48 --> 00:29:51 just kind of like Yeah, I love you. Like that
00:29:51 --> 00:29:54 is I love that story so much. Like, I just love
00:29:54 --> 00:29:56 that story. That's that is such a good story
00:29:56 --> 00:29:58 to me. Like they sync up in the forest. They're
00:29:58 --> 00:30:01 fighting back to back and then they fall in love.
00:30:01 --> 00:30:03 Luke's just like, will you marry me? You know,
00:30:03 --> 00:30:05 like I have seen you in a way that I've never
00:30:05 --> 00:30:07 seen anyone else. You have seen me in the same
00:30:07 --> 00:30:10 way. Let's be together. That is a beautiful story.
00:30:11 --> 00:30:14 You know, according to our boy Wikipedia here.
00:30:16 --> 00:30:20 Luke had 13 different romances. Oh, it was 13.
00:30:20 --> 00:30:23 Okay, see, the books cover four or five, I think.
00:30:23 --> 00:30:26 13, yeah. Homie was out there trying to spread
00:30:26 --> 00:30:30 his seed. Number one is Leia on the list. Wait,
00:30:30 --> 00:30:33 oh, God. Okay, let's - Number one on the list
00:30:33 --> 00:30:35 is Leia. Let's not, we're not gonna talk about
00:30:35 --> 00:30:38 that. We're not gonna talk. I'll never get over
00:30:38 --> 00:30:42 the kiss and then you're my sister, Leia. I've
00:30:42 --> 00:30:45 always known. Like, okay, all right. I guess
00:30:45 --> 00:30:49 they're from Space Alabama. Damn, Skywalkers.
00:30:49 --> 00:30:52 God, all of them are crazy. Backwater Farm Boy.
00:30:52 --> 00:30:57 You know... No, go ahead. Go ahead. No, no, no.
00:30:58 --> 00:31:00 When he said Backwater Farm Boy, she's like,
00:31:00 --> 00:31:03 hmm. That's what I was thinking. Backwater Farm
00:31:03 --> 00:31:09 Boy from Space Alabama, you know? Oh, man. Yeah,
00:31:09 --> 00:31:12 basically. I mean, you got to think about it.
00:31:12 --> 00:31:14 His parents were technically his uncle and his
00:31:14 --> 00:31:18 aunt, so it makes sense. The different interpretations
00:31:18 --> 00:31:21 of Luke, okay, I can't even say different interpretations.
00:31:21 --> 00:31:25 The canon interpretation of Luke makes me appreciate
00:31:25 --> 00:31:30 the Legends Luke so much more. I just, it makes
00:31:30 --> 00:31:34 me see that, I don't know, I also guess, I also
00:31:34 --> 00:31:37 guess this is the, okay, so the Luke from Legends.
00:31:38 --> 00:31:42 Is the Luke you get. When you have a team of,
00:31:43 --> 00:31:44 I believe, anywhere, just depending on what series
00:31:44 --> 00:31:46 you're talking about, you have a team of seven
00:31:46 --> 00:31:51 to 12 authors working collaboratively on a story
00:31:51 --> 00:31:55 that needs to have continuity, still be good,
00:31:55 --> 00:31:58 still have plot development and character development,
00:31:58 --> 00:32:01 and tie in everything that you know previously,
00:32:02 --> 00:32:04 bringing, you know, moving it forward. That's
00:32:04 --> 00:32:06 the one thing that I love about Legends Timeline
00:32:06 --> 00:32:09 is like, no book, no book's information goes
00:32:09 --> 00:32:13 unway. wasted regardless of how small a legends
00:32:13 --> 00:32:17 book is if it was only a one -time you know book
00:32:17 --> 00:32:20 from an author at some point after that book
00:32:20 --> 00:32:24 is written it gets referenced if if not once
00:32:24 --> 00:32:26 more than one you know it's something it builds
00:32:26 --> 00:32:31 upon itself that's what i didn't see in both
00:32:31 --> 00:32:34 the canon book line and the canon movie timeline
00:32:34 --> 00:32:39 is like there's a lack of continuity And though
00:32:39 --> 00:32:42 we don't get to see that continuity in any media
00:32:42 --> 00:32:46 outside of the books for Legends, what I am thankful
00:32:46 --> 00:32:50 for in canon is using the media of the TV shows
00:32:50 --> 00:32:54 to fill in some gaps. The way I was talking to
00:32:54 --> 00:32:57 Hunter about this the other day and the way I
00:32:57 --> 00:33:01 kind of saw the canon timeline when it first
00:33:01 --> 00:33:03 came out. If you're talking about like the sequel
00:33:03 --> 00:33:06 trilogies, maybe like Rogue One and some other
00:33:06 --> 00:33:09 one -off stuff. It's like doing abstract art.
00:33:09 --> 00:33:14 You have this canvas. And if you think of the
00:33:14 --> 00:33:16 movies as like three different paint colors,
00:33:16 --> 00:33:20 it's like taking a big glob of that paint and
00:33:20 --> 00:33:22 just throwing it at this fresh white canvas.
00:33:22 --> 00:33:24 And that's what we got in the beginning. So if
00:33:24 --> 00:33:26 you saw like a canvas with just three big old
00:33:26 --> 00:33:28 color blobs on them, you'd be like. What kind
00:33:28 --> 00:33:31 of art is this? What the hell is this? But what
00:33:31 --> 00:33:33 has helped is not only the canon books, but the
00:33:33 --> 00:33:36 canon series that have come since then and even
00:33:36 --> 00:33:39 some of the other canon movies. It's kind of
00:33:39 --> 00:33:41 like adding these different colors and different
00:33:41 --> 00:33:45 brush strokes. So now you originally started
00:33:45 --> 00:33:48 with three big splats on a canvas. And now there's
00:33:48 --> 00:33:50 more detail to these splats. And you can now
00:33:50 --> 00:33:52 start sort of seeing the bigger picture that
00:33:52 --> 00:33:55 comes from this abstract style of art. And that's
00:33:55 --> 00:33:57 the one thing that I like. But I wish that had
00:33:57 --> 00:33:59 been done from the beginning the same way the
00:33:59 --> 00:34:02 books and legends were. Which is that they were
00:34:02 --> 00:34:05 sat there. They were collaborated and corroborated
00:34:05 --> 00:34:08 upon between all these authors. building upon
00:34:08 --> 00:34:11 the knowledge that they had to bring stories
00:34:11 --> 00:34:14 that we had not yet seen before and i just feel
00:34:14 --> 00:34:18 like i didn't get that from canon in the beginning
00:34:18 --> 00:34:20 and now that i'm getting it it's making it sort
00:34:20 --> 00:34:23 of okay but i'm still hurt you know does that
00:34:23 --> 00:34:27 make sense yes so absolutely yeah i'm glad they're
00:34:27 --> 00:34:29 kind of going back and adding these in between
00:34:29 --> 00:34:32 stuff and making things a little bit better but
00:34:32 --> 00:34:35 i I wanted that from the get -go, and that's
00:34:35 --> 00:34:38 probably one of the reasons for all of my disappointment
00:34:38 --> 00:34:43 with the sequel trilogy in the beginning. I think
00:34:43 --> 00:34:45 the biggest thing the sequel trilogy suffers
00:34:45 --> 00:34:49 from is it felt like Disney was just trying to
00:34:49 --> 00:34:53 rehash the entire original trilogy and just go
00:34:53 --> 00:34:55 beat for beat with that. You were saying before
00:34:55 --> 00:34:59 that was Yoda's thing to be a hermit, and they
00:34:59 --> 00:35:02 just forced Luke into that role, basically. Yeah,
00:35:02 --> 00:35:06 I can I can see I can see that being being something
00:35:06 --> 00:35:10 that Disney did and probably would do. The other
00:35:10 --> 00:35:13 thing is that I don't know, man, I feel like
00:35:13 --> 00:35:16 you have been handed one of the greatest sci
00:35:16 --> 00:35:21 fi series of all time. You know, like it may
00:35:21 --> 00:35:22 not be the greatest, but it's definitely one
00:35:22 --> 00:35:27 of, you know, and you have a trilogy set to come
00:35:27 --> 00:35:32 out that was not the most meticulously. planned
00:35:32 --> 00:35:36 collaborated whatever you want to say about it
00:35:36 --> 00:35:40 trilogy of our generation is just what what irks
00:35:40 --> 00:35:43 me like you didn't have the same director for
00:35:43 --> 00:35:47 any of them the continuity is kind of all over
00:35:47 --> 00:35:52 the place so many different unasked like unanswered
00:35:52 --> 00:35:54 questions like that was the thing about so if
00:35:54 --> 00:35:57 you take each trilogy as a whole you you take
00:35:57 --> 00:36:01 the original trilogy the og For the time, it
00:36:01 --> 00:36:03 was good movies. You can make fun of them now,
00:36:03 --> 00:36:05 but for the time, good movies and good Star Wars.
00:36:06 --> 00:36:09 The plot followed a line that you could kind
00:36:09 --> 00:36:10 of guess where it was going. There were plot
00:36:10 --> 00:36:14 twists, which is okay, but the story was good.
00:36:14 --> 00:36:17 Now, fast forward to the prequel trilogy coming
00:36:17 --> 00:36:20 out. At the time, those movies were not the greatest,
00:36:20 --> 00:36:22 and they're still not the greatest, but it was
00:36:22 --> 00:36:25 still good Star Wars. At the end of the day,
00:36:25 --> 00:36:29 it was good Star Wars. You got where Darth Vader
00:36:29 --> 00:36:32 came from, the setup of the prophecy, everything
00:36:32 --> 00:36:35 that the slight unanswered questions that were
00:36:35 --> 00:36:40 present. for the OG trilogy got answered in the
00:36:40 --> 00:36:42 prequel trilogy. But then you get to the sequel
00:36:42 --> 00:36:46 trilogy and not only are they bad movies, but
00:36:46 --> 00:36:48 they do have moments where they shine. I don't
00:36:48 --> 00:36:50 want to take away from them. They're bad movies
00:36:50 --> 00:36:55 and bad Star Wars. The story doesn't follow any
00:36:55 --> 00:36:59 kind of progression that... makes sense and when
00:36:59 --> 00:37:02 you get to the last movie instead of it being
00:37:02 --> 00:37:05 the okay this is what they left out in the first
00:37:05 --> 00:37:07 two movies that we were missing that that that
00:37:07 --> 00:37:10 makes it all make sense now you didn't get that
00:37:10 --> 00:37:13 you got more questions somehow palpatine has
00:37:13 --> 00:37:19 returned what the yeah what what i remember when
00:37:19 --> 00:37:23 i first heard that line now and and i was and
00:37:23 --> 00:37:25 i told my friend i was like you are you trolling
00:37:25 --> 00:37:28 me he's like no that is an actual line like that
00:37:28 --> 00:37:31 is an actual line in the movie i'm like no no
00:37:31 --> 00:37:36 no no no no they have to explain it and he's
00:37:36 --> 00:37:40 like trust me they're not gonna now there's but
00:37:40 --> 00:37:43 now see back then i thought the same thing now
00:37:43 --> 00:37:45 they're getting into it Like now you can kind
00:37:45 --> 00:37:48 of see, especially with like the, the, what you
00:37:48 --> 00:37:49 learned from the Mandalorian, like, okay, we
00:37:49 --> 00:37:52 kind of see where it's coming from, but like
00:37:52 --> 00:37:56 some, when I, when I, cause I didn't watch the
00:37:56 --> 00:37:58 ending, like the little ending scene after the
00:37:58 --> 00:38:03 credits for the last Jedi. So when I saw episode
00:38:03 --> 00:38:06 nine for the first time and the somehow Palpatine
00:38:06 --> 00:38:09 has returned, like I was, I like looked to my
00:38:09 --> 00:38:12 girlfriend. And I looked back at the, I was like,
00:38:12 --> 00:38:14 hey, no way, bro. We just went from The Last
00:38:14 --> 00:38:17 Jedi to somehow Palpatine has returned. Like,
00:38:17 --> 00:38:21 they didn't explain nothing. Nothing. They did
00:38:21 --> 00:38:25 explain a teeny bit of somehow Palpatine returned
00:38:25 --> 00:38:28 in Fortnite, though. They dropped that info in
00:38:28 --> 00:38:29 Fortnite before the movie. So, like, all the
00:38:29 --> 00:38:32 kids were like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Palpatine's
00:38:32 --> 00:38:34 back. Why would you drop it in Fortnite, though?
00:38:34 --> 00:38:36 Wait, are you being deadass? Like, for real?
00:38:37 --> 00:38:40 I'm being deadass. I'm being deadass. I did not
00:38:40 --> 00:38:41 know that. I'm not even gonna pretend I did.
00:38:42 --> 00:38:44 They dropped that information in Fortnite, like
00:38:44 --> 00:38:47 almost like a trailer. They had like a Star Wars
00:38:47 --> 00:38:49 event. They're like, oh, the movie's coming.
00:38:49 --> 00:38:51 And it was like somehow Palpatine returned. It's
00:38:51 --> 00:38:53 like a whole big, like loud announcement in the
00:38:53 --> 00:38:55 game. I played it a little bit at the time. So
00:38:55 --> 00:38:57 I do remember a little bit of that. But yeah,
00:38:57 --> 00:39:00 like the kids might've known, but none of the
00:39:00 --> 00:39:03 rest of us were like, oh yeah, Palpatine, huh?
00:39:03 --> 00:39:06 I feel like they missed that. They missed the
00:39:06 --> 00:39:09 mark. on their target audience because like i
00:39:09 --> 00:39:13 get going for kids at star wars but i think that
00:39:13 --> 00:39:16 like after the prequel trilogy we're like all
00:39:16 --> 00:39:19 the adults at the time just like did not like
00:39:19 --> 00:39:21 it and we were all like what do you mean this
00:39:21 --> 00:39:23 is so hey we've never seen lightsaber fighting
00:39:23 --> 00:39:26 like this like anyone who saw the prequels after
00:39:26 --> 00:39:29 watching the og trilogy and get i will never
00:39:29 --> 00:39:31 let me tell you something i will never forget
00:39:31 --> 00:39:36 being in the theater for episode two at the end
00:39:36 --> 00:39:39 when yoda and dooku fight and yoda pulls out
00:39:39 --> 00:39:44 his license the man the theater went crazy the
00:39:44 --> 00:39:49 theater went crazy like that we went nuts and
00:39:49 --> 00:39:52 i feel like i feel like they missed their mark
00:39:52 --> 00:39:56 not targeting that specific generation with like
00:39:56 --> 00:39:59 right like like i don't get me wrong putting
00:39:59 --> 00:40:01 it in fortnite is great that that that is a that
00:40:01 --> 00:40:05 is a large platform that's that's okay but like
00:40:05 --> 00:40:07 we needed something too because like hunter said
00:40:07 --> 00:40:10 like he played it but like i'm not a fortnite
00:40:10 --> 00:40:13 enthusiast a lot of my friends are not fortnite
00:40:13 --> 00:40:15 players either how are we ever going to To experience
00:40:15 --> 00:40:18 that. I would have never known that. That was
00:40:18 --> 00:40:22 today years old. I was today years old. Thank
00:40:22 --> 00:40:28 you Wenshi. You're welcome. It was a really dumb
00:40:28 --> 00:40:30 thing. I knew it was coming. I knew Palpatine
00:40:30 --> 00:40:33 was coming back. I was prepared for that at the
00:40:33 --> 00:40:36 movie. I wasn't planning to be mad about that.
00:40:36 --> 00:40:39 Because we know from Legends. Palpatine does
00:40:39 --> 00:40:42 return in Legends. I figured they were. I was
00:40:42 --> 00:40:44 like okay fine. I won't be mad about that. I'll
00:40:44 --> 00:40:47 be mad about everything else, you know? Like,
00:40:47 --> 00:40:49 fine, Palpatine's back. He probably used a clone,
00:40:50 --> 00:40:52 you know, dropped his soul into it. Yeah, that's
00:40:52 --> 00:40:55 typical Palpatine stuff. Fine. But, like, nobody
00:40:55 --> 00:40:57 else who's, like, not read the books would know
00:40:57 --> 00:40:59 that, right? They're just like, how'd he come
00:40:59 --> 00:41:01 back? I'm sitting there like, yeah, this is the
00:41:01 --> 00:41:03 one thing I'm actually not mad about is him being
00:41:03 --> 00:41:07 back. Like, everything else, I don't know, you
00:41:07 --> 00:41:09 know? But, like, fine, he's back. I was expecting
00:41:09 --> 00:41:13 that eventually, right? Just, uh... See, I was
00:41:13 --> 00:41:15 too, but I thought that they were going to do
00:41:15 --> 00:41:17 something in, like, The Last Jedi. I thought
00:41:17 --> 00:41:18 they were going to be like, okay, well, Snoke
00:41:18 --> 00:41:21 is just, like, a deformed Palpatine clone, blah,
00:41:21 --> 00:41:23 blah, blah, something like that. Like, I thought
00:41:23 --> 00:41:25 they were going to tell us, let us know. Because,
00:41:25 --> 00:41:28 like, when I saw, when I originally saw Snoke,
00:41:28 --> 00:41:30 I was like, who this mother f***er? Like, who
00:41:30 --> 00:41:36 are you? Like, but. it never came it just never
00:41:36 --> 00:41:40 came so like i i was okay with the like like
00:41:40 --> 00:41:44 you said when she like i was okay with the palpatine
00:41:44 --> 00:41:47 return but i wanted them to say this is how palpatine
00:41:47 --> 00:41:51 returned before the movie where palpatine returned
00:41:51 --> 00:41:55 yeah i was looking for at least some type of
00:41:55 --> 00:41:58 explanation like i wasn't mad that he came back
00:41:58 --> 00:42:01 it was just the execution of him coming back
00:42:01 --> 00:42:04 just just telling me somehow palpatine returned
00:42:04 --> 00:42:07 and i'm like what do you mean somehow like like
00:42:07 --> 00:42:09 i mean like and i mean like i've read the books
00:42:09 --> 00:42:11 too and i'm like okay so he obviously may have
00:42:11 --> 00:42:13 cloned himself or something like that but i need
00:42:13 --> 00:42:16 that explained to me Anyone who's a true Star
00:42:16 --> 00:42:20 Wars fan who immediately saw somehow Palpatine
00:42:20 --> 00:42:23 has returned was instantly like, okay, I can
00:42:23 --> 00:42:25 automatically think of three ways he could return.
00:42:25 --> 00:42:29 Can you please tell me which one it is? That's
00:42:29 --> 00:42:32 basically where I was. I was like, okay, there's
00:42:32 --> 00:42:34 a few ways he could have came back somehow. Which
00:42:34 --> 00:42:38 one is it? Yeah, exactly. And the only thing
00:42:38 --> 00:42:44 we get about Snoke is like... When Van goes into
00:42:44 --> 00:42:48 the temple there, we see the tubes or the cloning
00:42:48 --> 00:42:52 pods, right? We see a deformed -looking Snoke
00:42:52 --> 00:42:54 kind of guy in there, right? So that's the only
00:42:54 --> 00:42:56 explanation we got. It was like, oh, he's making
00:42:56 --> 00:43:00 clones. It was just one tiny glimpse at a tube
00:43:00 --> 00:43:03 with a deformed head in it. Yeah. I mean, at
00:43:03 --> 00:43:06 least when those movies first came out, I was
00:43:06 --> 00:43:08 lacking a little bit of hope and a little bit
00:43:08 --> 00:43:10 of, I don't know, I felt like some of that initial
00:43:10 --> 00:43:15 wonder that I had when, you know, experiencing
00:43:15 --> 00:43:18 the Legends timeline and finding out like, oh,
00:43:18 --> 00:43:21 this new book is coming out soon. Or, oh, they're
00:43:21 --> 00:43:22 going to continue, you know, this storyline.
00:43:23 --> 00:43:27 I had lost that initial wonder. I won't deny
00:43:27 --> 00:43:28 it. I lost that initial wonder and I love Star
00:43:28 --> 00:43:32 Wars more than I love most things. But now I
00:43:32 --> 00:43:36 think that the series and some of the other media
00:43:36 --> 00:43:39 has definitely instilled some faith in me that
00:43:39 --> 00:43:42 I will have the questions that I want answered,
00:43:42 --> 00:43:45 answered. It may not have been as immediate as
00:43:45 --> 00:43:49 I was looking forward to. But the fact that it
00:43:49 --> 00:43:51 is coming, or at least I assume that it's coming,
00:43:51 --> 00:43:55 has given me enough hope to want to persevere
00:43:55 --> 00:43:57 through it. You know, I've just finished reading
00:43:57 --> 00:44:00 the last book in the Legends timeline. Of course,
00:44:00 --> 00:44:02 I'm going to go back and hit some other points
00:44:02 --> 00:44:04 to, you know, just to kind of finish it up, make
00:44:04 --> 00:44:06 sure that I've got as much from that as I can.
00:44:06 --> 00:44:08 But I, you know, soon before the end of this
00:44:08 --> 00:44:10 year is over for sure, I will be starting those
00:44:10 --> 00:44:14 Disney books. So I will get some more of that
00:44:14 --> 00:44:16 in -between information that I am currently missing
00:44:16 --> 00:44:19 to see the... bigger picture and you know maybe
00:44:19 --> 00:44:21 at the end and this is my hope that at the end
00:44:21 --> 00:44:24 of it all when I get that final view when I finally
00:44:24 --> 00:44:27 able to step back and be like okay this is everything
00:44:27 --> 00:44:31 that Disney has done for the canon timeline I
00:44:31 --> 00:44:34 just want to be able to say I hope that I can
00:44:34 --> 00:44:38 smile and say okay well done Disney I agree with
00:44:38 --> 00:44:40 this because they have done an excellent job
00:44:40 --> 00:44:43 it's specifically series they have done an excellent
00:44:43 --> 00:44:46 job now a couple of series have been kind of
00:44:46 --> 00:44:49 mad of points but I think overall I would give
00:44:49 --> 00:44:51 them a solid B plus on how they have taken the
00:44:51 --> 00:44:55 series how they have used it to add information
00:44:55 --> 00:44:57 that we didn't originally have with the sequel
00:44:57 --> 00:45:00 trilogy I'll give them a solid B plus on that
00:45:00 --> 00:45:02 I think they've done a good job now have I agreed
00:45:02 --> 00:45:04 with everything or have I liked everything no
00:45:04 --> 00:45:06 of course not but I also didn't like everything
00:45:06 --> 00:45:09 that they did in Legends timeline that's fair
00:45:09 --> 00:45:11 you know there's going to be stuff that you don't
00:45:11 --> 00:45:15 like but I just want them I'm glad that at the
00:45:15 --> 00:45:17 steps that they have taken so far, but when it
00:45:17 --> 00:45:20 comes down to it, I want to say like one to two
00:45:20 --> 00:45:22 years from now, I want to be able to take, take
00:45:22 --> 00:45:25 a quick little step back, say, Hey, this is everything
00:45:25 --> 00:45:27 that has for the most part come out. And this
00:45:27 --> 00:45:30 is everything that I know. And I am okay with
00:45:30 --> 00:45:32 this. I give it a thumbs up. That's what, that's
00:45:32 --> 00:45:34 what I'm looking forward to. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm
00:45:34 --> 00:45:37 going to give them till 25, but that's, that's
00:45:37 --> 00:45:38 what I'm, that's what I'm looking for. When 2025
00:45:38 --> 00:45:40 comes around, I'm going to re -examine it and
00:45:40 --> 00:45:42 be like, okay, they've done a good job, but they
00:45:42 --> 00:45:45 could do better. Or, okay, this, not where i
00:45:45 --> 00:45:48 thought it was going i still love star wars but
00:45:48 --> 00:45:50 you know it's not really what i want i need this
00:45:50 --> 00:45:52 this and that but with everything that's been
00:45:52 --> 00:45:55 announced i'm looking forward to it man it looks
00:45:55 --> 00:45:58 real good it's it's looking real good definitely
00:45:58 --> 00:46:01 you gotta give credit to dave uh for you know
00:46:01 --> 00:46:04 the work that he's been doing i've always said
00:46:04 --> 00:46:07 you gotta sometimes with some of these sci -fi
00:46:07 --> 00:46:08 movies and stuff like that especially with star
00:46:08 --> 00:46:11 wars you have to put somebody in charge who's
00:46:11 --> 00:46:15 good at making movies but also knows star Yeah,
00:46:15 --> 00:46:19 David Filoni and Jon Favreau are doing a stand
00:46:19 --> 00:46:22 -up job. Yeah, Jon Favreau too. The two of them
00:46:22 --> 00:46:24 have been knocking it out of the park, and I
00:46:24 --> 00:46:27 believe the two of them together are going to
00:46:27 --> 00:46:31 save the franchise. I believe that also. I think
00:46:31 --> 00:46:34 Jon Favreau is trying really hard to save it.
00:46:34 --> 00:46:36 Dave Filoni's a really good producer and all
00:46:36 --> 00:46:39 that kind of stuff. But I think behind the scenes,
00:46:39 --> 00:46:42 it's Jon Favreau. He wants Star Wars to be Star
00:46:42 --> 00:46:45 Wars again. Yeah. It was Jon Favreau I was trying
00:46:45 --> 00:46:48 to think of, but I know Dan Filoni's also had
00:46:48 --> 00:46:50 a big part of it, too. I will always respect
00:46:50 --> 00:46:55 Filoni for The Clone Wars because, like, I always
00:46:55 --> 00:46:58 knew about Anakin, and, like, it's not that I
00:46:58 --> 00:47:01 have nothing against, what's his name, Christian
00:47:01 --> 00:47:03 Hadenson. Like, I love him. I love him. And I
00:47:03 --> 00:47:07 love the Anakin that he played, but I love the
00:47:07 --> 00:47:09 detail in which I got to know Anakin through
00:47:09 --> 00:47:12 Filoni. I will always respect him for that. Yeah,
00:47:12 --> 00:47:15 you really, really got to know him on a definitely
00:47:15 --> 00:47:18 more personal level. Yeah, because episode two
00:47:18 --> 00:47:20 to episode three is a big jump for some people
00:47:20 --> 00:47:23 because they're like, what happened? But then
00:47:23 --> 00:47:25 you see the Clone Wars and you're like, okay,
00:47:25 --> 00:47:27 well, I know what happened. I'm sorry, bro. I
00:47:27 --> 00:47:29 feel you, man. I'd probably be ready to go to
00:47:29 --> 00:47:33 the dark side also. Yeah, for real. Like, after
00:47:33 --> 00:47:35 watching all the Clone Wars, I was like, I understand
00:47:35 --> 00:47:38 Anakin a lot more. Yeah, you know, like... what
00:47:38 --> 00:47:40 they did with what Dave, what Dave Filoni and
00:47:40 --> 00:47:42 Jaffa are trying to save. Like, you know, my
00:47:42 --> 00:47:44 grandfather is the one who, who got me into star
00:47:44 --> 00:47:46 Wars. I was like four or five years old. And
00:47:46 --> 00:47:48 my, my mom had like gone off to do some like
00:47:48 --> 00:47:51 work stuff. And, uh, she had told him not to
00:47:51 --> 00:47:54 show me star Wars, but he did it anyway. And,
00:47:54 --> 00:47:56 uh, we've marathon like the whole, the whole
00:47:56 --> 00:47:59 series. Right. And, uh, like I fell in love with
00:47:59 --> 00:48:01 star Wars back then, you know, I took him to
00:48:01 --> 00:48:06 see the force awakens and, um, rogue one. And
00:48:06 --> 00:48:09 when we left the Force Awakens theater, the only
00:48:09 --> 00:48:14 comment he had was that was not Star Wars. Just
00:48:14 --> 00:48:17 going back to your points earlier, like, you
00:48:17 --> 00:48:19 know, he's been watching since the very first
00:48:19 --> 00:48:21 one. He's read all the books, too. You know,
00:48:21 --> 00:48:24 he's seen every movie. He loves Star Wars so
00:48:24 --> 00:48:28 much. And his only comment was that was not Star
00:48:28 --> 00:48:30 Wars. yeah it was something trying to be star
00:48:30 --> 00:48:33 wars and it's something that's getting close
00:48:33 --> 00:48:36 to being star wars but yeah that's that's that's
00:48:36 --> 00:48:39 how i feel also yeah nowadays i have hope like
00:48:39 --> 00:48:45 you know rogue one was top tier like coming back
00:48:45 --> 00:48:47 trying to save things bringing something into
00:48:47 --> 00:48:50 the the movie verse that actually advanced the
00:48:50 --> 00:48:52 the plot you know get answered some questions
00:48:53 --> 00:48:55 was awesome, had cool space battles. What Star
00:48:55 --> 00:48:57 Wars is about, right? It's literally Star Wars,
00:48:57 --> 00:49:01 not, you know, Deserted Wars. And, you know,
00:49:01 --> 00:49:05 that was great. And then we got Mandalorian Season
00:49:05 --> 00:49:08 1. That was awesome. And we get Book of Bofev
00:49:08 --> 00:49:11 is good. And then all these questions are getting
00:49:11 --> 00:49:14 answered in these, like, side shows, especially,
00:49:14 --> 00:49:19 like, Andor, this awesome show. Andor was so
00:49:19 --> 00:49:23 good. I loved Rebels 2, but man, those thin lightsabers.
00:49:25 --> 00:49:28 You know, I actually have hope. Like, you know,
00:49:28 --> 00:49:30 after The Rise of Skywalker, I did. I lost a
00:49:30 --> 00:49:32 little hope in Star Wars. I was, you know, not
00:49:32 --> 00:49:35 like reading the books anymore. And I still haven't
00:49:35 --> 00:49:36 really gotten back into it. Like, I had read
00:49:36 --> 00:49:38 all the books, you know, previously, the Legends
00:49:38 --> 00:49:40 books, but I haven't started the Disney ones
00:49:40 --> 00:49:42 because it just instilled so little faith in
00:49:42 --> 00:49:45 the series for me. It's like, this is not going
00:49:45 --> 00:49:47 to be... something worth you know keeping up
00:49:47 --> 00:49:49 with reading the books anything like that because
00:49:49 --> 00:49:53 they just keep butchering you know a great ip
00:49:53 --> 00:49:56 that they have right but then then we got these
00:49:56 --> 00:49:59 these new shows and we finished out the clone
00:49:59 --> 00:50:02 wars and you know we're answering questions we're
00:50:02 --> 00:50:06 going back like we got a great show that's answering
00:50:06 --> 00:50:09 so many questions um tying everything in like
00:50:09 --> 00:50:12 that that show brought me back into loving star
00:50:12 --> 00:50:16 wars that and andor right they like I started
00:50:16 --> 00:50:18 to like heart. I mean, I was always a fanboy,
00:50:18 --> 00:50:21 right? It's my identity. But once those shows
00:50:21 --> 00:50:23 started coming out and I started to see like
00:50:23 --> 00:50:26 they can do something amazing with what they
00:50:26 --> 00:50:28 have and they're starting to choose to actually
00:50:28 --> 00:50:30 do something amazing with what they have. I have
00:50:30 --> 00:50:34 hope that the future of the series is going to
00:50:34 --> 00:50:36 be amazing. And I just want to be around to like
00:50:36 --> 00:50:39 experience that because I do actually have hope
00:50:39 --> 00:50:42 now that, you know, Disney can do something great
00:50:42 --> 00:50:45 with this. oh yeah and you know i actually i
00:50:45 --> 00:50:46 actually didn't know that you hadn't started
00:50:46 --> 00:50:49 any of the disney books so when when i when you
00:50:49 --> 00:50:51 start let me know because i'm you know did i
00:50:51 --> 00:50:53 tell you i've got all of them except for like
00:50:53 --> 00:50:57 six like i i have all the disney books We'll
00:50:57 --> 00:51:00 do a book club. Seriously. I haven't read any
00:51:00 --> 00:51:03 of the new ones. I lost hope that they were going
00:51:03 --> 00:51:05 to be good at all. I've seen a lot of comments
00:51:05 --> 00:51:08 about how The High Republic is awesome, so I
00:51:08 --> 00:51:10 know I need to get back into it. I'm totally
00:51:10 --> 00:51:12 down to read them all. We'll do a book club,
00:51:12 --> 00:51:14 talk about it in the podcast. It'll be great.
00:51:14 --> 00:51:16 Yeah, the second I found out they had brought
00:51:16 --> 00:51:19 back a whole bunch of people like John Jackson
00:51:19 --> 00:51:22 Miller, Timothy Zahn, James Luceno, like a bunch
00:51:22 --> 00:51:25 of my favorite authors from the Legends timeline,
00:51:25 --> 00:51:28 I was like, all right, maybe I'll have to give
00:51:28 --> 00:51:30 the books a shot. Because the second I saw those
00:51:30 --> 00:51:33 names, I was like, oh, yes. And then I've heard
00:51:33 --> 00:51:35 nothing but good things about Claudia Gray. I
00:51:35 --> 00:51:38 heard she been killing it Star Wars -wise. So
00:51:38 --> 00:51:40 I'm excited to see some of these new authors
00:51:40 --> 00:51:43 in the Star Wars game, too. But I'm also like...
00:51:43 --> 00:51:46 Like you said, you know, I have hope now, especially
00:51:46 --> 00:51:49 knowing that to some degree, Luke Skywalker is
00:51:49 --> 00:51:51 in the hands of Filoni and Favreau, especially
00:51:51 --> 00:51:53 at least to some degree, you know, like with
00:51:53 --> 00:51:56 the Mandalorian. So we have some way to tie him
00:51:56 --> 00:51:59 on. You know, we've seen the first images of
00:51:59 --> 00:52:03 his Jedi Academy being built. So we're getting,
00:52:03 --> 00:52:06 you know, some Luke, some more Luke that we can,
00:52:06 --> 00:52:10 you know, go off of. And that's what I'm looking
00:52:10 --> 00:52:15 forward to. I'm looking to see. why we got what
00:52:15 --> 00:52:19 version of the characters that we knew like luke
00:52:19 --> 00:52:22 that we did that we did exactly exactly i want
00:52:22 --> 00:52:24 to i want to see what what led to that because
00:52:24 --> 00:52:29 maybe there is some solace in that information
00:52:29 --> 00:52:33 maybe i can be like okay that makes sense i understand
00:52:33 --> 00:52:36 because right now i don't Han and Leia would
00:52:36 --> 00:52:38 never split up like that Luke would never separate
00:52:38 --> 00:52:40 himself from Han and Leia the way he did it just
00:52:40 --> 00:52:43 wasn't again as Mark Hamill said that's not the
00:52:43 --> 00:52:46 Luke that I grew up with it's not the same so
00:52:46 --> 00:52:49 I want to see well okay if that's the case if
00:52:49 --> 00:52:51 this is not the same Luke and I am okay with
00:52:51 --> 00:52:54 it not being the same Luke why did he get that
00:52:54 --> 00:52:58 way and and what evidence what you know traumatic
00:52:58 --> 00:53:01 experience what exposition can you give me to
00:53:01 --> 00:53:04 justify this luke that i now have to live with
00:53:04 --> 00:53:09 as the main canon luke but yeah that has that
00:53:09 --> 00:53:13 has been our little sectional today about luke
00:53:13 --> 00:53:15 skywalker thank y 'all so much for tuning in
00:53:15 --> 00:53:17 it has been absolutely wonderful and we look
00:53:17 --> 00:53:19 forward to catching you guys on the next episode