Take a look into the life of Obi-Wan The Homie in the first part of our 3 Part Season Finale
00:00:25 --> 00:00:29 Welcome to The Force Unscripted. I am so excited
00:00:29 --> 00:00:32 to be here with you guys today. Today is going
00:00:32 --> 00:00:37 to be the start of part one of our three -part
00:00:37 --> 00:00:40 season finale about Obi -Wan the homie. You gotta
00:00:40 --> 00:00:44 love Obi -Wan Kenobi. So, without further ado,
00:00:44 --> 00:00:49 ladies and gentlemen... Star Wars fans, young
00:00:49 --> 00:00:52 and old, gather round as we embark on a journey
00:00:52 --> 00:00:54 through a galaxy far, far away. In the grand
00:00:54 --> 00:00:57 tapestry of the Force, there is one figure whose
00:00:57 --> 00:01:01 wisdom, courage, and unwavering dedication have
00:01:01 --> 00:01:04 left an indelible mark on the hearts of millions.
00:01:04 --> 00:01:08 A name whispered in reverence, a hero of the
00:01:08 --> 00:01:11 Republic, a mentor to the Chosen One, the man,
00:01:11 --> 00:01:14 the myth, the legend himself, Obi -Wan Kenobi.
00:01:15 --> 00:01:19 Obi -Wan, a name that resonates through the ages.
00:01:19 --> 00:01:22 A Jedi Knight whose tale spans from the era of
00:01:22 --> 00:01:25 the Clone Wars to the rise of the Empire. A beacon
00:01:25 --> 00:01:28 of hope in times of darkness. A guardian of peace
00:01:28 --> 00:01:33 in a turbulent galaxy. And just among the Jedi
00:01:33 --> 00:01:36 Order, he stands as a paragon of virtue. A master
00:01:36 --> 00:01:39 of the lightsaber and a guardian of justice.
00:01:40 --> 00:01:42 From his humble beginnings as a young Padawan
00:01:42 --> 00:01:45 under the tutelage of Qui -Gon Jinn, to his role
00:01:45 --> 00:01:48 as a wise and battle -hardened Jedi Master, Obi
00:01:48 --> 00:01:51 -Wan's journey is one of growth and sacrifice
00:01:51 --> 00:01:56 and just absolute unwavering resolve. He's faced
00:01:56 --> 00:02:00 the Sith, he's navigated... the treacherous politics
00:02:00 --> 00:02:04 of the galactic senate and train the chosen one
00:02:04 --> 00:02:06 anakin skywalker who would ultimately become
00:02:06 --> 00:02:08 darth vader and then anakin skywalker again and
00:02:08 --> 00:02:13 then the father as one podcast member had to
00:02:13 --> 00:02:16 so recently admit to anyways um But Obi -Wan
00:02:16 --> 00:02:19 is more than just a Jedi. He is a symbol of resilience,
00:02:20 --> 00:02:23 of the undying commitment to the light side of
00:02:23 --> 00:02:26 the Force, and many other things. He's a reminder
00:02:26 --> 00:02:28 that in the darkest of times, there's always
00:02:28 --> 00:02:31 a spark of hope and a glimmer of possibility.
00:02:32 --> 00:02:34 Whether it's facing down Sith Lords, dueling
00:02:34 --> 00:02:37 on the molten terrain of Mustafar, or watching
00:02:37 --> 00:02:40 over our dear precious Luke Skywalker on Tatooine,
00:02:40 --> 00:02:43 Obi -Wan embodies the Jedi Code, living by the
00:02:43 --> 00:02:46 mantra... There is no emotion. There is peace.
00:02:46 --> 00:02:49 But it wasn't always that way. Man's went through
00:02:49 --> 00:02:52 some stuff, had some feels for sure, which we're
00:02:52 --> 00:02:55 definitely going to get into. So as we dive into
00:02:55 --> 00:02:58 the rich history and enduring legacy of Obi -Wan
00:02:58 --> 00:03:02 Kenobi, let us remember the hero who walked the
00:03:02 --> 00:03:05 path of the Jedi. who stood as a pillar of virtue
00:03:05 --> 00:03:08 and whose actions inspired generations. This
00:03:08 --> 00:03:12 is the story of a man who, even in exile, remained
00:03:12 --> 00:03:14 the guardian of peace and a symbol of hope. This
00:03:14 --> 00:03:20 is the story of Obi -Wan the Homie. All right,
00:03:20 --> 00:03:24 so, Hunter, you ready? You ready to do this thing?
00:03:25 --> 00:03:27 There's a thing, and I'm here to do it. That's
00:03:27 --> 00:03:30 comforting, I think. I think. Is that considered
00:03:30 --> 00:03:34 comforting? Uh... Don't go weak on me now. Come
00:03:34 --> 00:03:37 on, man. Come on, man. All right. So Obi -Wan
00:03:37 --> 00:03:41 Kenobi. So the way I mean, of course, the force
00:03:41 --> 00:03:44 unscripted, we keep to the nature of the unscripted
00:03:44 --> 00:03:46 show, but we're doing three parts. That's for
00:03:46 --> 00:03:49 sure. So the way that it's kind of going to go
00:03:49 --> 00:03:52 for you listeners out there is basically for
00:03:52 --> 00:03:55 part one, we're going to focus mostly on like.
00:03:55 --> 00:03:59 Obi, Qui -Gon, Anakin, like that era, like basically
00:03:59 --> 00:04:01 everything up until like the Clone Wars. So like
00:04:01 --> 00:04:05 Obi as a Padawan. Then part two, we'll kind of
00:04:05 --> 00:04:08 focus on Obi and Annie in their relationship
00:04:08 --> 00:04:11 and the Clone Wars and all the way up until Order
00:04:11 --> 00:04:15 66. And then the third part, the finale of the
00:04:15 --> 00:04:18 finale, if you will, will be basically post -Order
00:04:18 --> 00:04:20 66. So we'll be able to talk about episode four,
00:04:20 --> 00:04:25 you know. the the events of kenobi the show uh
00:04:25 --> 00:04:30 so just uh you guys are in for a lot obi -wan
00:04:30 --> 00:04:32 is is one of the big names in star wars this
00:04:32 --> 00:04:35 is this is name brand star wars stuff like ahsoka
00:04:35 --> 00:04:39 ahsoka is like like heb brand stuff like great
00:04:39 --> 00:04:41 value brand stuff like you know it's good it's
00:04:41 --> 00:04:44 great you know it's not as good as the name brand
00:04:44 --> 00:04:47 stuff but it can rock with them you know because
00:04:47 --> 00:04:50 because because That's how I feel. I might get
00:04:50 --> 00:04:51 a little bit of hate for that. I'm sorry. Don't
00:04:51 --> 00:04:54 look at me like that, Hunter. I see your eye.
00:04:54 --> 00:04:58 But yeah, Obi -Wan Kenobi. So one thing that
00:04:58 --> 00:05:02 I have... always loved about Obi -Wan is his
00:05:02 --> 00:05:06 dynamic with other people because it's rare at
00:05:06 --> 00:05:08 least in my experience that you see Obi -Wan
00:05:08 --> 00:05:10 who just so absolutely resonates with someone
00:05:10 --> 00:05:13 which is why I think his relationship with Anakin
00:05:13 --> 00:05:15 especially in their like in Anakin's early adulthood
00:05:15 --> 00:05:18 and in basically Obi -Wan's prime they're they're
00:05:18 --> 00:05:20 like the bros like they're like the bros and
00:05:20 --> 00:05:22 that's like the first real person you see him
00:05:22 --> 00:05:25 resonate with I mean when you go back and um
00:05:25 --> 00:05:30 oh what was her name Satine? Satine? Yeah, okay.
00:05:31 --> 00:05:34 Okay, yeah, Satine. That is, like, you can see
00:05:34 --> 00:05:37 some stuff where, like, they kind of resonate,
00:05:37 --> 00:05:40 but, again, Obi -Wan is, like, can be very polar
00:05:40 --> 00:05:43 in instances with, like, anyone he's paired with,
00:05:43 --> 00:05:47 and I think it all starts with Qui -Gon, and
00:05:47 --> 00:05:50 I love Qui -Gon Jinn. Qui -Gon is, like, he's,
00:05:50 --> 00:05:54 like, the Jedi hippie. Like, he's just very different.
00:05:55 --> 00:05:57 And, like, you're like, ah, silly Qui -Gon. But
00:05:57 --> 00:06:00 he's also a badass. Like, Qui -Gon is really
00:06:00 --> 00:06:05 good. And it's just so funny because him and
00:06:05 --> 00:06:10 Obi -Wan clash so much, especially in Legends.
00:06:10 --> 00:06:14 They have a relationship. It's one of love. You
00:06:14 --> 00:06:17 know, there's nothing but love there. But, like,
00:06:17 --> 00:06:20 it's so funny because Obi -Wan is a Padawan criticizing
00:06:20 --> 00:06:25 his master at every turn. And it's hilarious.
00:06:25 --> 00:06:28 And Qui -Gon had this habit of like picking up
00:06:28 --> 00:06:31 waifs and strays, which comes to like a peak
00:06:31 --> 00:06:33 ahead, whatever you want to call it, with him
00:06:33 --> 00:06:37 picking up Anakin on Tatooine. But like he has
00:06:37 --> 00:06:39 a habit of picking up waifs and strays and it
00:06:39 --> 00:06:43 just rubs Obi -Wan the wrong way all the time.
00:06:43 --> 00:06:47 All the time. I think that is hilarious. Well,
00:06:47 --> 00:06:49 I mean, you know, it's just like, oh, great.
00:06:49 --> 00:06:52 Another one that I got to take care of and pretend
00:06:52 --> 00:06:58 to care about. I mean, I just feel like, I don't
00:06:58 --> 00:07:00 know, it's so funny to me. I love the dynamic
00:07:00 --> 00:07:03 of teacher and student where teacher's a dumbass
00:07:03 --> 00:07:05 and student is a genius. That's kind of how it
00:07:05 --> 00:07:08 feels with Obi -Wan and Qui -Gon. Oh, so like
00:07:08 --> 00:07:14 us. Which one am I? Are you calling me Qui -Gon?
00:07:14 --> 00:07:17 Are you calling me Qui -Gon? Are you telling
00:07:17 --> 00:07:20 me that I'm going to get stabbed by a dude wearing
00:07:20 --> 00:07:25 pride makeup? die okay straight through the stomach
00:07:25 --> 00:07:27 straight through this you know what that's the
00:07:27 --> 00:07:29 source of all of my problems anyway so take me
00:07:29 --> 00:07:33 out at the core baby and unlike every other character
00:07:33 --> 00:07:35 that gets stabbed through the stomach by a lightsaber
00:07:35 --> 00:07:38 you're the only one who dies yeah that sucks
00:07:38 --> 00:07:42 it's just a skill issue you know i know it's
00:07:42 --> 00:07:44 a small tangent but talking about that would
00:07:44 --> 00:07:46 that actually kill someone because doesn't like
00:07:46 --> 00:07:49 the wound automatically cauterize so you'd be
00:07:49 --> 00:07:51 like kind of okay at least long enough to like
00:07:51 --> 00:07:54 get some help No? Like with their advanced society?
00:07:54 --> 00:07:58 Qui -Gon really just was weak right there. I
00:07:58 --> 00:08:02 mean, unless it maybe hit his diaphragm or something,
00:08:02 --> 00:08:06 maybe he couldn't breathe, but definitely the
00:08:06 --> 00:08:11 Bacta stuff regrows skin and whatnot. I mean,
00:08:11 --> 00:08:13 it can't regrow whole limbs, but I mean, the
00:08:13 --> 00:08:15 cybernetics are good. We see What's -Her -Face
00:08:15 --> 00:08:20 from the Mandalorian, the sniper, I forget her
00:08:20 --> 00:08:23 name now. How do you forget something Mandalorian?
00:08:23 --> 00:08:25 I'm honestly shocked. Because she's not a Mandalorian.
00:08:26 --> 00:08:30 She's like Boba Fett's secretary. Oh, Fennec
00:08:30 --> 00:08:33 Shand? Yeah, Fennec. She basically gets her whole
00:08:33 --> 00:08:35 stomach destroyed and Boba's just like, here,
00:08:35 --> 00:08:40 have some cybernetics. Voila, new stomach. Qui
00:08:40 --> 00:08:42 -Gon was real weak. They just had to shit on...
00:08:42 --> 00:08:44 You know what? They had to shit on Qui -Gon.
00:08:45 --> 00:08:48 If Qui -Gon lives, none of the events of like...
00:08:48 --> 00:08:54 I don't think... order 66 no no because qui -gon
00:08:54 --> 00:08:56 would have raised anakin to be his like little
00:08:56 --> 00:08:59 hippie brother and exactly great and you know
00:08:59 --> 00:09:00 that's that's something that i want to talk about
00:09:00 --> 00:09:03 too because i think because of what you just
00:09:03 --> 00:09:05 described people like often shit on qui -gon
00:09:05 --> 00:09:08 but qui -gon was a badass if you like he was
00:09:08 --> 00:09:13 actually a great duelist and i think people forget
00:09:13 --> 00:09:16 that like his master was dooku homie had hands
00:09:16 --> 00:09:18 like homie legitimately had hands and in the
00:09:18 --> 00:09:22 novelization of episode one they talk about how
00:09:22 --> 00:09:25 like like that you get to see like qui -gon's
00:09:25 --> 00:09:27 inner monologue and he's like you know what,
00:09:27 --> 00:09:30 I know I'm good, I know I'm a master, but I'm
00:09:30 --> 00:09:31 not in my prime anymore, you know, I'm waning,
00:09:32 --> 00:09:35 I'm old, like, I'm an old man, and this, this,
00:09:35 --> 00:09:36 this, like, because he doesn't know he's a Sith,
00:09:36 --> 00:09:39 he's like, this assassin is in the prime of his
00:09:39 --> 00:09:41 life, like, he's going hard, I feel the force
00:09:41 --> 00:09:44 within him, he's strong, like, I just, I am no
00:09:44 --> 00:09:48 match, like, Qui -Gon knew, and I think that
00:09:48 --> 00:09:52 is just kind of poetic in the downfall of everything,
00:09:52 --> 00:09:55 because everyone knows Duel of the Fates, like,
00:09:55 --> 00:10:01 that is the Everyone loves that song, and shout
00:10:01 --> 00:10:05 out John Williams, obviously, but that's the
00:10:05 --> 00:10:08 thing. The Jedi quote -unquote win that fight
00:10:08 --> 00:10:11 because they quote -unquote kill Maul, but they
00:10:11 --> 00:10:15 lose overall. In the Duel of the Fates, the faith
00:10:15 --> 00:10:19 where Qui -Gon lives, Maul is either outed or
00:10:19 --> 00:10:22 killed, and Anakin gets the master he needs.
00:10:23 --> 00:10:25 Or Qui -Gon dies, which is what happens, and
00:10:25 --> 00:10:28 then all of the events that follow it just cascade
00:10:28 --> 00:10:33 into cataclysm. And that's the thing. The Jedi
00:10:33 --> 00:10:35 win that skirmish, but they lose the war. They
00:10:35 --> 00:10:38 lose the duel of the fates. The fate where Anakin
00:10:38 --> 00:10:42 has to basically bring about absolute destruction
00:10:42 --> 00:10:45 is the only... the only option, that's the fate
00:10:45 --> 00:10:49 that won, and I just, the poeticism of it is
00:10:49 --> 00:10:53 fantastic, it's what I love about the deeper
00:10:53 --> 00:10:55 Star Wars story, especially when you get to read
00:10:55 --> 00:10:57 the books and stuff, and see the novelization
00:10:57 --> 00:11:00 of scenes that you can see playing out in your
00:11:00 --> 00:11:02 head, like, because when you think of the fight
00:11:02 --> 00:11:06 with Maul and Qui -Gon, to know that he is thinking,
00:11:06 --> 00:11:10 like, I'm good, but I'm not him, like, I'm not
00:11:13 --> 00:11:17 plot armor ain't got me this time like and it's
00:11:17 --> 00:11:22 just i i think that one it was it was it was
00:11:22 --> 00:11:26 key it was necessary to get the obi -wan that
00:11:26 --> 00:11:31 we have but damn does it suck because that was
00:11:31 --> 00:11:34 that was the dad friend that anakin needed that
00:11:34 --> 00:11:37 was that was him that was who would have made
00:11:37 --> 00:11:39 sure that the chosen one would have just been
00:11:39 --> 00:11:43 maybe a little bit more like quote -unquote left
00:11:43 --> 00:11:46 in his Jedi views than the standard Jedi, most
00:11:46 --> 00:11:49 of the Council at the time. But it's just so
00:11:49 --> 00:11:53 impactful for Obi -Wan because, I mean, he loses
00:11:53 --> 00:11:56 someone who he criticized at every turn but truly
00:11:56 --> 00:11:59 did love like an uncle -slash -father figure,
00:11:59 --> 00:12:04 you know, as a mentor also. And I feel like it's
00:12:04 --> 00:12:08 what breeds his growing softness for Anakin.
00:12:09 --> 00:12:13 Which leads to his downfall. Because I feel like
00:12:13 --> 00:12:17 Obi -Wan himself truly does embody what I guess
00:12:17 --> 00:12:21 Yoda and other Jedi Masters had seen through
00:12:21 --> 00:12:25 attachment. Because Obi -Wan falls pretty f***ing
00:12:25 --> 00:12:27 hard because of his love for Anakin. A lot of
00:12:27 --> 00:12:29 things. His love for Anakin made him not out
00:12:29 --> 00:12:32 his friend about... the love interest with Padme.
00:12:33 --> 00:12:36 Him loving Anakin so deeply and his emotions
00:12:36 --> 00:12:39 towards Anakin, he maims him. And though he thinks
00:12:39 --> 00:12:41 he's dead, I mean, like, he could have made sure
00:12:41 --> 00:12:43 he was. Like, that was something that was...
00:12:43 --> 00:12:45 I know it's not the Jedi way, but, like, you
00:12:45 --> 00:12:47 know that this is your enemy. He's a Sith. He
00:12:47 --> 00:12:51 even says it. But it's just... His love for his
00:12:51 --> 00:12:55 brother, his friend, his Padawan is ultimately
00:12:55 --> 00:12:58 a big downfall of Obi -Wan Kenobi. I think that
00:12:58 --> 00:13:00 affects him. Because he knows about emotion.
00:13:00 --> 00:13:04 He knows that it's said that attachment will
00:13:04 --> 00:13:06 lead to all this stuff that goes to the dark
00:13:06 --> 00:13:09 side. And though Obi -Wan never goes to the dark
00:13:09 --> 00:13:12 side, I feel like he is definitely tested. It's
00:13:12 --> 00:13:14 a test of faith. It's a necessary test of faith,
00:13:14 --> 00:13:16 too. Yeah, but I don't think Obi -Wan was ever
00:13:16 --> 00:13:20 even in danger of falling to the dark side. No,
00:13:20 --> 00:13:22 and I'm not saying that. I don't think that.
00:13:22 --> 00:13:25 I never thought he was susceptible. But he is
00:13:25 --> 00:13:29 firsthand experiencing... pain from attachments,
00:13:29 --> 00:13:32 which is a tenet of the Jedi that he was raised
00:13:32 --> 00:13:35 by, like no attachments. It's just irony to me.
00:13:35 --> 00:13:38 Yeah, but I think he takes the attachment the
00:13:38 --> 00:13:41 right way in comparison to Anakin's extremism,
00:13:41 --> 00:13:45 right? Oh, no, I mean, I agree. I don't like
00:13:45 --> 00:13:48 the fact that the Jedi can't bring up motions.
00:13:48 --> 00:13:50 That's one thing that I love about Luke's Jedi
00:13:50 --> 00:13:52 Academy, you know, like when he reestablishes
00:13:52 --> 00:13:54 the new Jedi Order, like attachment is fine.
00:13:55 --> 00:13:58 I feel like the timing of it, Knowing that it's
00:13:58 --> 00:14:00 the downfall of the Jedi, knowing that one of
00:14:00 --> 00:14:02 their main tenets is no emotion, no attachment,
00:14:02 --> 00:14:06 and Obi -Wan has to go through his sin of attachment,
00:14:06 --> 00:14:08 atonement for his sin. I think it's poetic. I
00:14:08 --> 00:14:11 love the story. You can't tell me you disagree
00:14:11 --> 00:14:14 with that. No, but what I was saying was like,
00:14:14 --> 00:14:18 yes, the Yoda's psychophants are no emotion,
00:14:18 --> 00:14:22 no attachment, etc. attachment yes yes we hear
00:14:22 --> 00:14:24 like oh my gosh you have to learn to let go blah
00:14:24 --> 00:14:26 blah blah but obi -wan did know how to let go
00:14:26 --> 00:14:30 he was definitely like the ideal form of love
00:14:30 --> 00:14:33 per se because like we saw anakin he takes it
00:14:33 --> 00:14:36 to the extreme he gets married which i mean none
00:14:36 --> 00:14:38 of us see a problem with that luke's jedi order
00:14:38 --> 00:14:41 was perfectly fine but the fear of like failure
00:14:41 --> 00:14:45 the fear of losing that kind of thing led you
00:14:45 --> 00:14:47 know ultimately to anakin's downfall where obi
00:14:47 --> 00:14:51 -wan didn't fear the loss but he did love hard.
00:14:52 --> 00:14:55 That's how Obi -Wan was. When we see Satine die,
00:14:55 --> 00:14:59 he's able to let go and move on like he's supposed
00:14:59 --> 00:15:02 to. He's able to handle his attachments the way
00:15:02 --> 00:15:04 they're meant to be handled. I think he does
00:15:04 --> 00:15:07 a way better job of it than Yoda tells Anakin
00:15:07 --> 00:15:10 to do, where Yoda's just like, forget it all.
00:15:10 --> 00:15:14 Peace out. Don't love anything. No emotion. But
00:15:14 --> 00:15:16 the Jedi aren't about... you can't have peace
00:15:16 --> 00:15:19 without some like love like you can't just you
00:15:19 --> 00:15:21 can't just be tranquil all the time yoda's yoda's
00:15:21 --> 00:15:24 psycho for saying that oh absolutely i mean it's
00:15:24 --> 00:15:26 the geimer stick right like he's just he's just
00:15:26 --> 00:15:29 batshit crazy because he's old i mean he is batshit
00:15:29 --> 00:15:31 crazy but i love yoda but i don't love yoda's
00:15:31 --> 00:15:33 teachings all the time i mean look at look at
00:15:33 --> 00:15:37 mace right like his whole his whole fighting
00:15:37 --> 00:15:41 style involves drawing on emotion and the dark
00:15:41 --> 00:15:44 side and fighting with passion and that's why
00:15:44 --> 00:15:48 you know he's so cool right yeah and he's one
00:15:48 --> 00:15:50 of like the best you know lightsaber duelists
00:15:50 --> 00:15:53 ever i mean he he claps sidious for a reason
00:15:53 --> 00:15:57 clearly there is power and strength in emotion
00:15:57 --> 00:16:01 you just can't let the fear you know rule you
00:16:01 --> 00:16:05 that's the fear and like the the greed is what
00:16:05 --> 00:16:08 leads you know ultimately to the downfall or
00:16:08 --> 00:16:11 the fall to the dark side but having love and
00:16:11 --> 00:16:14 whatever for other people and peace and all that
00:16:14 --> 00:16:17 kind of stuff is is should be perfectly fine
00:16:17 --> 00:16:19 and yoda's just too old and he talks you know
00:16:19 --> 00:16:22 backwards because he's a thousand years old and
00:16:22 --> 00:16:25 he never caught up with the times it's back ass
00:16:25 --> 00:16:30 words yeah yeah yeah i agree i the only thing
00:16:30 --> 00:16:33 that you said that i just kind of it's not that
00:16:33 --> 00:16:35 i disagree with because it's it's newer knowledge
00:16:35 --> 00:16:39 to me i guess but i don't think obi -wan is good
00:16:39 --> 00:16:41 at letting go like you said he's he's good at
00:16:41 --> 00:16:43 it i don't i don't think so i think he's been
00:16:43 --> 00:16:45 forced into doing it i don't think he's good
00:16:45 --> 00:16:48 at it i didn't say he's good at it he i said
00:16:48 --> 00:16:51 he's good at managing it or good at handling
00:16:51 --> 00:16:53 it you know we you know we record you know we
00:16:53 --> 00:16:56 have audio like you know this is recorded yeah
00:16:56 --> 00:17:00 but i'm not saying But you said word for word.
00:17:00 --> 00:17:03 He's good at being a Jedi, all right? He's good
00:17:03 --> 00:17:06 at following what a Jedi should be. He just follows
00:17:06 --> 00:17:09 Master Yoda a little too much, you know? He just
00:17:09 --> 00:17:12 believes in his old green grandpa a little too
00:17:12 --> 00:17:17 much. We see Qui -Gon fall. Yes, he goes ham
00:17:17 --> 00:17:20 on Maul, but he is able to move on and take on
00:17:20 --> 00:17:23 his master's final wishes, which was to train
00:17:23 --> 00:17:28 Anakin. And when... sateen dies he is able to
00:17:28 --> 00:17:30 you know handle his and move on and even when
00:17:30 --> 00:17:32 they're like we can't be together even though
00:17:32 --> 00:17:34 he he did say if you had asked i would have left
00:17:34 --> 00:17:37 the order but he moved on off after that because
00:17:37 --> 00:17:40 obviously he didn't leave the order and then
00:17:40 --> 00:17:42 she died and he handles his and it was maul that
00:17:42 --> 00:17:45 killed her and he still didn't fall to the dark
00:17:45 --> 00:17:47 side or anything like that and then anakin's
00:17:47 --> 00:17:50 you know going crazy killing children and he's
00:17:50 --> 00:17:52 like i'll do what i gotta do man I love you like
00:17:52 --> 00:17:55 a brother, but let me just cut off your limbs
00:17:55 --> 00:17:57 and dump you in a lava pit and then think you're
00:17:57 --> 00:17:59 dead for the next 10 years. You say that as if
00:17:59 --> 00:18:02 you wouldn't do that to a brother. I would absolutely
00:18:02 --> 00:18:05 do that to Rick Threepio in a heartbeat. Rick
00:18:05 --> 00:18:07 Threepio, your limbs are mine. Bathe in lava.
00:18:08 --> 00:18:10 Rick Threepio knows how to use a saber staff.
00:18:10 --> 00:18:13 Good luck. You know, he's able to let go. That's
00:18:13 --> 00:18:16 his, he does embody what it means to be a Jedi.
00:18:17 --> 00:18:19 Whereas Qui -Gon was more like an Altus kind
00:18:19 --> 00:18:23 of Jedi. He was a... He was a Jyn Altus or a
00:18:23 --> 00:18:26 Callisto Massan kind of Jedi. I'm glad you mentioned
00:18:26 --> 00:18:28 that because that brings me into like another
00:18:28 --> 00:18:30 kind of point that I wanted to talk about, which
00:18:30 --> 00:18:33 is like the dynamics of the Jedi at the time,
00:18:33 --> 00:18:36 like in the time period. I think thinking of,
00:18:36 --> 00:18:39 and I know people try to avoid politics and stuff,
00:18:39 --> 00:18:44 but I just, I like, I see in my head the parallels
00:18:44 --> 00:18:47 and I talk about them because I think they're
00:18:47 --> 00:18:48 interesting. But like, if you think about the
00:18:48 --> 00:18:51 Jedi Council, it's kind of like the Senate. in
00:18:51 --> 00:18:55 America. You'll notice that Qui -Gon Jinn, Quinlan
00:18:55 --> 00:18:58 Vos, and there's a couple of other ones too that
00:18:58 --> 00:19:03 are more leftist. They're more loose or they
00:19:03 --> 00:19:06 allow the bending of the rules. And then you
00:19:06 --> 00:19:10 have these other ones like, I'd say Ki -Adi,
00:19:10 --> 00:19:14 Luminara, that are more traditional, more...
00:19:16 --> 00:19:18 conservative like honestly more luminar is very
00:19:18 --> 00:19:22 conservative luminar would sacrifice her a print
00:19:22 --> 00:19:25 her padawan just you know yeah so like there's
00:19:25 --> 00:19:28 there's this dichotomy that's sort of there and
00:19:28 --> 00:19:32 i think it's an interesting space where obi -wan
00:19:32 --> 00:19:35 exists because if you think of the way that i
00:19:35 --> 00:19:37 like try to relate it is that if you think about
00:19:37 --> 00:19:42 like the right side If you like, just for example,
00:19:42 --> 00:19:44 it would be something like the Mitch McConnell's
00:19:44 --> 00:19:47 of the Jedi Council. And then you have like the
00:19:47 --> 00:19:50 other side, which is more like the AOCs of the
00:19:50 --> 00:19:53 Jedi Council, you know. But then you have like
00:19:53 --> 00:19:56 a middle ground with Obi -Wan, I feel. He's more
00:19:56 --> 00:19:58 of like a centrist. Like I don't have like a
00:19:58 --> 00:20:01 really good centrist example because I don't
00:20:01 --> 00:20:04 really like know many famous centrists, I guess.
00:20:04 --> 00:20:09 But he's kind of like almost in. independent
00:20:09 --> 00:20:11 party sometimes like a like a bernie sanders
00:20:11 --> 00:20:16 maybe because like he is he's he does lean more
00:20:16 --> 00:20:18 conservative i will say that so i guess it's
00:20:18 --> 00:20:21 bad to use bernie but because he's about to say
00:20:21 --> 00:20:24 that was a horrible example i don't know where
00:20:24 --> 00:20:27 you're going with this I don't know where you're
00:20:27 --> 00:20:30 going with this. I'm just saying he has more
00:20:30 --> 00:20:32 centrist... I'm getting to the point, though.
00:20:32 --> 00:20:36 He has more, I feel like, of a centrist Jedi
00:20:36 --> 00:20:40 view from those two extremes. He will, he does
00:20:40 --> 00:20:42 tend to lean towards the will of the council
00:20:42 --> 00:20:44 and tries to embrace it. But there are times
00:20:44 --> 00:20:48 that we see where he doesn't. He goes, he doesn't
00:20:48 --> 00:20:51 go full off the rails, but he has to improvise.
00:20:51 --> 00:20:53 And I feel like he is basically kind of like
00:20:53 --> 00:20:56 a middle ground in that aspect. Like, I feel
00:20:56 --> 00:21:00 like he gets his teachings, you know, like his
00:21:00 --> 00:21:04 straight to the books teachings from. the jedi
00:21:04 --> 00:21:06 council the jedi masters who trained him when
00:21:06 --> 00:21:11 he was a padawan and he gets his subjective kind
00:21:11 --> 00:21:18 of agent of socialization in qui -gon which alters
00:21:18 --> 00:21:21 kind of how he views because up until qui -gon's
00:21:21 --> 00:21:23 death you know he had criticized him he still
00:21:23 --> 00:21:25 loved him but then like afterwards and especially
00:21:25 --> 00:21:27 in legends i don't know if this holds true for
00:21:27 --> 00:21:30 canon so i could be wrong but he reminisces about
00:21:31 --> 00:21:34 his memories with Qui -Gon, like, ah, Master,
00:21:34 --> 00:21:35 now I see why you did this. Ah, Master, what
00:21:35 --> 00:21:37 would you do here? Like, that kind of stuff.
00:21:37 --> 00:21:40 And he tries to let the Qui -Gon in him come
00:21:40 --> 00:21:44 out sometimes. I just feel like because of elements
00:21:44 --> 00:21:46 of his indoctrination as a traditional Jedi,
00:21:47 --> 00:21:50 oftentimes the more conservative, towards the
00:21:50 --> 00:21:54 Jedi Council side wins. Thoughts? I mean, fair,
00:21:55 --> 00:21:59 because he lost his master, who was the, like,
00:21:59 --> 00:22:02 aloof. Let's have a little bit of fun kind of
00:22:02 --> 00:22:06 master. And even though Qui -Gon became a force
00:22:06 --> 00:22:08 ghost, he wasn't able to actually communicate
00:22:08 --> 00:22:13 with Qui -Gon. Until after he fought Vader the
00:22:13 --> 00:22:16 second time. Well, kind of technically the third
00:22:16 --> 00:22:18 time. But the second middle one doesn't count
00:22:18 --> 00:22:20 because he just got his ass whooped. That was
00:22:20 --> 00:22:23 like a one -sided beatdown. But he wasn't able
00:22:23 --> 00:22:26 to actually talk to Qui -Gon as a Force ghost
00:22:26 --> 00:22:31 until he had learned to accept. both sides of
00:22:31 --> 00:22:34 himself the the love and everything that he had
00:22:34 --> 00:22:37 for anakin but also the teach like the the force
00:22:37 --> 00:22:39 he had to i mean it was accepting the force the
00:22:39 --> 00:22:41 force the will of the force the way the force
00:22:41 --> 00:22:44 you know meditation self -reflection that kind
00:22:44 --> 00:22:47 of thing rather than just wallowing in self -pity
00:22:47 --> 00:22:51 sure yeah he's a he's a centrist i mean are who
00:22:51 --> 00:22:54 are we comparing like i mean okay We're back
00:22:54 --> 00:22:57 to this example. No, no. We're going back to
00:22:57 --> 00:22:59 this. No, no, no. Pause, pause. You know we record
00:22:59 --> 00:23:05 this. You know we record this. I know not. We're
00:23:05 --> 00:23:08 going back. Pause, pause. No, I'm pausing. Pause,
00:23:08 --> 00:23:11 pause. No, no. You cannot blame me for my random
00:23:11 --> 00:23:16 ADHD memory association that helps me appreciate
00:23:16 --> 00:23:18 Star Wars because I can compare it to this. that
00:23:18 --> 00:23:20 we have to experience today. Leave me alone.
00:23:20 --> 00:23:25 I said it was bad, okay? It made sense in my
00:23:25 --> 00:23:27 head. I just like to talk. Going back anyway,
00:23:27 --> 00:23:33 so who's your Mitch McConnell? Let me say something.
00:23:33 --> 00:23:37 I don't know people on the Republican side of
00:23:37 --> 00:23:39 Congress who speak. Mitch McConnell is just the
00:23:39 --> 00:23:41 turtle that I see on Twitter. It just popped
00:23:41 --> 00:23:43 into my name. I know he's a Republican. It was
00:23:43 --> 00:23:46 just for a metaphor. It was a joke. Don't do
00:23:46 --> 00:23:50 this to me. Don't do this to me. So who's your
00:23:50 --> 00:23:55 AOC? Look, that's someone who I know who's Democrat.
00:23:55 --> 00:23:58 Leave me alone. I didn't want to say Nancy Pelosi.
00:23:59 --> 00:24:04 Jeez. God. Anyway. I'm too busy on the galactic
00:24:04 --> 00:24:07 space Senate shit. I can't be bothered with our
00:24:07 --> 00:24:10 Senate shit. The galactic space shit is more
00:24:10 --> 00:24:16 fun. The thing about Obi -Wan is he watched what
00:24:16 --> 00:24:19 happened to Qui -Gon. This is my interpretation
00:24:19 --> 00:24:22 because I haven't read all the novelizations
00:24:22 --> 00:24:24 of the movies, so I don't have that kind of like...
00:24:24 --> 00:24:27 you know insight into what Qui -Gon was thinking
00:24:27 --> 00:24:32 however we do see like Obi -Wan is definitely
00:24:32 --> 00:24:34 critical of his master he's definitely more reserved
00:24:34 --> 00:24:40 more um straight and narrow I would say and he
00:24:40 --> 00:24:44 sees what the aloofness gets Qui -Gon in the
00:24:44 --> 00:24:46 end and it gets him stabbed through the stomach
00:24:46 --> 00:24:48 and dead and you know that may not be like no
00:24:48 --> 00:24:52 false sorry I have to interject false Qui -Gon
00:24:52 --> 00:24:55 only lost that fight because he was old. Not
00:24:55 --> 00:24:57 because of his aloofness. I want that specified.
00:24:58 --> 00:25:01 I'm talking about this from Obi -Wan's perspective,
00:25:01 --> 00:25:03 okay? Because Obi -Wan can't read Qui -Gon's
00:25:03 --> 00:25:05 mind, alright? He doesn't know that Qui -Gon
00:25:05 --> 00:25:07 is thinking, oh shit, I'm old, my knees are weak,
00:25:08 --> 00:25:10 and this guy's arms are heavy. Okay, fair. I'll
00:25:10 --> 00:25:12 give you that. Okay, I'll concede. I'll concede.
00:25:12 --> 00:25:16 So, he just sees his master meditate in a little
00:25:16 --> 00:25:19 laser prison thing. you know outside of some
00:25:19 --> 00:25:21 reactor and then get himself stabbed through
00:25:21 --> 00:25:23 the stomach because instead of focusing on the
00:25:23 --> 00:25:26 fight he was meditating and obi -wan pulls up
00:25:26 --> 00:25:30 gets the high ground uh and then cuts his dude
00:25:30 --> 00:25:33 in half anyway so obi -wan sees that like qui
00:25:33 --> 00:25:38 -gon's way was it was it was a way but it didn't
00:25:38 --> 00:25:41 you know in the end get him It didn't work for
00:25:41 --> 00:25:43 Obi -Wan, clearly. That's kind of what I'm getting
00:25:43 --> 00:25:45 at. And so after Qui -Gon's death, he kind of
00:25:45 --> 00:25:47 went his own straight and narrow path instead
00:25:47 --> 00:25:51 of following the more aloof teachings that Qui
00:25:51 --> 00:25:55 -Gon was aspiring to. And honestly, I think if
00:25:55 --> 00:25:59 Dooku had instead trained Obi -Wan, that would
00:25:59 --> 00:26:01 have been an interesting fellow. Yes, absolutely.
00:26:02 --> 00:26:05 I agree with that. But I want to interject one
00:26:05 --> 00:26:08 more time on a point you just made, too. I...
00:26:08 --> 00:26:11 don't agree with the assessment that because
00:26:11 --> 00:26:14 he does end up adopting so much stuff from qui
00:26:14 --> 00:26:18 -gon into his like his form and his his being
00:26:18 --> 00:26:20 like or you live with somebody for like 10 years
00:26:20 --> 00:26:22 you're gonna pick up some of their habits like
00:26:22 --> 00:26:25 that's more so but more so than that like it
00:26:25 --> 00:26:28 has to do with qui -gon was was a radical jedi
00:26:28 --> 00:26:31 because well not a radical jedi well i guess
00:26:31 --> 00:26:34 he's kind of radical because he was so He was
00:26:34 --> 00:26:37 so in tune to the living force, the living force,
00:26:37 --> 00:26:40 which is the element of the force that the Jedi
00:26:40 --> 00:26:44 had become so weak in. And that's why Qui -Gon
00:26:44 --> 00:26:46 was just built different. And that's something
00:26:46 --> 00:26:51 that Obi -Wan very much so learns to do into
00:26:51 --> 00:26:56 his adulthood, especially towards the ending
00:26:56 --> 00:26:59 of the Clone Wars. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
00:26:59 --> 00:27:02 no no even no it was way after that because it
00:27:02 --> 00:27:04 wasn't until like i said that's what i'm getting
00:27:04 --> 00:27:07 at he couldn't see qui -gon he couldn't uh communicate
00:27:07 --> 00:27:10 with qui -gon's force ghost until he accepted
00:27:10 --> 00:27:12 the force that's what i'm saying after qui -gon
00:27:12 --> 00:27:15 died he kind of he kind of went away from that
00:27:15 --> 00:27:18 path he went away from trusting more in the force
00:27:18 --> 00:27:20 and he trusted more in the teachings of the jedi
00:27:20 --> 00:27:22 temple that's where i'm sorry i'm i have adhd
00:27:22 --> 00:27:24 too all right i'm jumping all over the place
00:27:24 --> 00:27:28 so that's what i'm getting at all right that's
00:27:28 --> 00:27:30 that's what i'm saying once he embraced the force
00:27:30 --> 00:27:32 once he learned to like accept and let you know
00:27:32 --> 00:27:34 let it in let him guide him then he's able to
00:27:34 --> 00:27:37 communicate with qui -gon then we he we see how
00:27:37 --> 00:27:40 he is within a new hope when he's basically qui
00:27:40 --> 00:27:44 -gon 2 .0 right pulls up on the death star he's
00:27:44 --> 00:27:46 like let me just go chuckle in this you know
00:27:46 --> 00:27:50 reactor room and turn off the engines like oh
00:27:50 --> 00:27:53 look vader Come on, buddy. Like, strike me down.
00:27:53 --> 00:27:56 I still, I'm sorry. I'm a heckler, man. When
00:27:56 --> 00:27:59 it comes to Star Wars, I gotta heckle. Like,
00:27:59 --> 00:28:01 I still don't agree with that. I think maybe,
00:28:01 --> 00:28:05 like, you can say he definitely leaned more towards
00:28:05 --> 00:28:07 the council stuff after Qui -Gon's death. But
00:28:07 --> 00:28:12 I think that he still was in the mindset of that
00:28:12 --> 00:28:15 changing. At least we have, like, read stuff
00:28:15 --> 00:28:19 about Obi -Wan basically. using anakin like anakin
00:28:19 --> 00:28:22 just reminds him of qui -gon all the time and
00:28:22 --> 00:28:25 he always talks about that and he adopts stuff
00:28:25 --> 00:28:28 that he learns through experiences with anakin
00:28:28 --> 00:28:31 which i think is still the qui -gon in him like
00:28:31 --> 00:28:34 it's it's not that he lean he leans more towards
00:28:34 --> 00:28:37 them he's doing both but well i guess okay you
00:28:37 --> 00:28:39 can't say he leans more he's doing both of them
00:28:39 --> 00:28:42 but he's just doing more of the the jedi council
00:28:42 --> 00:28:45 stuff is the point i'm trying to make yeah he
00:28:45 --> 00:28:48 okay all right We don't disagree here. I know.
00:28:48 --> 00:28:50 Like I said, you live with somebody long enough,
00:28:50 --> 00:28:52 like you're going to pick up their habits. You're
00:28:52 --> 00:28:54 going to see them in the things that they used
00:28:54 --> 00:28:56 to do, the memories, the nostalgia, that kind
00:28:56 --> 00:28:59 of stuff. If Anakin was nostalgic for him in
00:28:59 --> 00:29:01 that way, then yeah, I mean, you are. You are
00:29:01 --> 00:29:03 going to, you know, treat him a little bit differently,
00:29:03 --> 00:29:06 treat him with that, you know, similar kind of
00:29:06 --> 00:29:10 attitude, right? That's fair. But yeah, eventually,
00:29:10 --> 00:29:13 like, he's like, oh, I just have to trust in
00:29:13 --> 00:29:15 what my master taught me. which was trusting
00:29:15 --> 00:29:18 the Force, and what do you know, voila, Force
00:29:18 --> 00:29:20 ghost time. So I want to pick your brain a little
00:29:20 --> 00:29:24 bit here. I got two questions, technically. The
00:29:24 --> 00:29:26 first one, which answers as long as you need,
00:29:27 --> 00:29:30 what do you think Anakin's future turns out like
00:29:30 --> 00:29:32 if he is able to be trained by Qui -Gon Jinn
00:29:32 --> 00:29:35 to knighthood, essentially? What do you think
00:29:35 --> 00:29:38 happens? Well, my friend, he goes to Mortis.
00:29:38 --> 00:29:41 the father says yo take my place and anakin says
00:29:41 --> 00:29:47 homie what's up i knew i knew that this is where
00:29:47 --> 00:29:50 this was going like i knew i knew i was like
00:29:50 --> 00:29:51 i'm finna get myself into some that's why i was
00:29:51 --> 00:29:54 like yeah take as much time as you need because
00:29:54 --> 00:29:59 i knew it i knew it we've seen in the ahsoka
00:29:59 --> 00:30:02 show we've seen anakin he's the father now like
00:30:02 --> 00:30:04 we we've kind of agreed that that's how it is
00:30:04 --> 00:30:08 right he is now the balance and again that's
00:30:08 --> 00:30:10 After he learned to, like, accept all the parts
00:30:10 --> 00:30:12 of him, accept the Force. Same deal with Obi
00:30:12 --> 00:30:14 -Wan here. Different path, but, like, same kind
00:30:14 --> 00:30:17 of deal, right? If he had worked with Qui -Gon,
00:30:17 --> 00:30:20 he would have hit that path 30 years ago. It
00:30:20 --> 00:30:22 just would have been the fast track to being
00:30:22 --> 00:30:24 the Chosen One, fulfilling the destiny. Because
00:30:24 --> 00:30:27 Qui -Gon really would have, you know, led him
00:30:27 --> 00:30:29 in the right direction. And when the choice came,
00:30:30 --> 00:30:32 and if Qui -Gon was there instead of Obi -Wan,
00:30:32 --> 00:30:33 or even if both of them were there, it doesn't
00:30:33 --> 00:30:37 really matter, at Mortis, and... Anakin was given
00:30:37 --> 00:30:40 the opportunity to balance the force to become
00:30:40 --> 00:30:42 you know part of the force Qui -Gon would have
00:30:42 --> 00:30:44 pushed him to do that I Qui -Gon would have said
00:30:44 --> 00:30:47 you know this is your choice but but I believe
00:30:47 --> 00:30:49 this might be you know this is your destiny this
00:30:49 --> 00:30:52 is what this is what you were born to do you
00:30:52 --> 00:30:54 know that's that was totally Qui -Gon's he would
00:30:54 --> 00:30:56 he would have encouraged him you know whereas
00:30:56 --> 00:31:00 Obi -Wan's just kind of like uh this is not in
00:31:00 --> 00:31:05 the Jedi Bible let me tell you I, I just, I,
00:31:05 --> 00:31:08 I absolutely agree. I, it's the, it's just the,
00:31:08 --> 00:31:11 it's the fact that he was so, so in tuned to
00:31:11 --> 00:31:15 the living force, a, a true force Jesus. So I,
00:31:15 --> 00:31:18 no force Jesus is, I guess, I guess he was forced
00:31:18 --> 00:31:20 John the Baptist. He had to die. And then for
00:31:20 --> 00:31:23 Jesus came, but they got to see each other because
00:31:23 --> 00:31:25 they were cousins. But sorry, look, I told you
00:31:25 --> 00:31:27 I got to relate. I got to relate it to something
00:31:27 --> 00:31:30 else for brain to go. You know, this is how it
00:31:30 --> 00:31:33 works. I'm sorry. So there's a scene from episode
00:31:33 --> 00:31:36 two, Attack of the Clones, where Obi -Wan is
00:31:36 --> 00:31:40 in the temple library. Right. And the archives.
00:31:40 --> 00:31:43 And he's talking to Jocasta. Right. Yeah. The
00:31:43 --> 00:31:46 most badass librarian in the world or in the
00:31:46 --> 00:31:50 galaxy. Yes. Except except she's stupid. and
00:31:50 --> 00:31:53 he's like hey hey where where this planet and
00:31:53 --> 00:31:57 she like it not in archive not exist no possible
00:31:57 --> 00:32:01 that's how i view the the the jedi the jedi way
00:32:01 --> 00:32:05 it's like oh not written in book must not be
00:32:05 --> 00:32:07 a valid like that little that little interaction
00:32:07 --> 00:32:10 is really funny to me where she's just saying
00:32:10 --> 00:32:14 that and obi -wan is like huh okay he's like
00:32:14 --> 00:32:18 huh okay let me go ask yoda Like, immediately,
00:32:18 --> 00:32:21 he's like, let me go ask this old senile f***,
00:32:22 --> 00:32:25 alright? You know, I gotta blame you. You got
00:32:25 --> 00:32:28 me thinking about Obi -Wan trained by Dooku now.
00:32:28 --> 00:32:30 Like, could you imagine the lightsaber combat?
00:32:31 --> 00:32:34 Right? Right? But could you also imagine how
00:32:34 --> 00:32:36 I feel like Obi -Wan would have turned out so
00:32:36 --> 00:32:39 f***ing jaded? Like, because he would have gone
00:32:39 --> 00:32:42 with Dooku when Dooku left. Like, he would have
00:32:42 --> 00:32:45 ended up under Palpatine. dooku dooku could have
00:32:45 --> 00:32:48 turned obi -wan yeah if dooku was obi -wan's
00:32:48 --> 00:32:52 master i yes dooku i i see it dooku could have
00:32:52 --> 00:32:55 turned okay okay i'm glad you see what i'm seeing
00:32:55 --> 00:32:58 because like i i that's what i thought you were
00:32:58 --> 00:33:00 hinting at when you said it would be dangerous
00:33:00 --> 00:33:03 yeah it would because because like think about
00:33:03 --> 00:33:08 it obi -wan is one of the only jedi in the last
00:33:08 --> 00:33:11 however many years thousand years to not only
00:33:11 --> 00:33:16 beat And kill one Sith. But two Sith. And he
00:33:16 --> 00:33:19 beats Asajj multiple times. He beats Grievous
00:33:19 --> 00:33:24 Ass. He's so good. He's a G. And he does eventually
00:33:24 --> 00:33:27 actually kill them all. You know properly. By
00:33:27 --> 00:33:32 cutting him in half the other direction. That's
00:33:32 --> 00:33:36 a bad joke. But I give it a 10 out of 10. Like
00:33:36 --> 00:33:39 Obi -Wan is the only person beating the Sith.
00:33:39 --> 00:33:43 Until Luke comes along. I mean, yeah, sure, Anakin,
00:33:43 --> 00:33:45 like, helps him. You know, Anakin beats Dooku.
00:33:45 --> 00:33:48 But at that point, Dooku was, like Qui -Gon,
00:33:48 --> 00:33:51 past his prime at that point. But, yeah, like,
00:33:52 --> 00:33:55 Obi -Wan beats Maul, and Maul was very powerful,
00:33:55 --> 00:33:58 very skilled with the Saber staff. And also,
00:33:58 --> 00:34:01 we know from reading, like, for instance, the
00:34:01 --> 00:34:06 Bane trilogy, that an advantage of the Saber
00:34:06 --> 00:34:08 staff is that people didn't train against it,
00:34:08 --> 00:34:11 so that it was... When they fought against it,
00:34:11 --> 00:34:13 it was hard for them to counter it and actually
00:34:13 --> 00:34:16 scared them into making mistakes because they
00:34:16 --> 00:34:18 didn't know how to fight against it. So not only
00:34:18 --> 00:34:21 did Obi -Wan beat Maul, but he beat Maul using
00:34:21 --> 00:34:24 a saber staff, which is pretty freaking hard.
00:34:24 --> 00:34:27 And I fought, you know, Brick 3PO when Brick
00:34:27 --> 00:34:30 3PO has a saber staff. And let me tell you, I'm
00:34:30 --> 00:34:33 terrified every time. I'm backing up and tripping
00:34:33 --> 00:34:35 over myself to get away from that man. He's just
00:34:35 --> 00:34:39 standing there menacingly. So, you know, he beats
00:34:39 --> 00:34:43 Maul. And then at the prime of Obi -Wan's power,
00:34:43 --> 00:34:44 well, not the prime, I'd say the prime is when
00:34:44 --> 00:34:47 he beats Anakin the second time, but where, I'm
00:34:47 --> 00:34:51 sorry, Vader the second time, but he beats Anakin
00:34:51 --> 00:34:54 basically at the height of his, you know, power
00:34:54 --> 00:34:57 pretty, pretty, you know, easily. I'm going to
00:34:57 --> 00:34:59 say, you know, that fight looked, you know, hard
00:34:59 --> 00:35:03 and definitely hard fought, but pretty much the
00:35:03 --> 00:35:05 whole time Anakin's holding, or sorry, Obi -Wan
00:35:05 --> 00:35:07 is holding back like, cause he doesn't want to
00:35:07 --> 00:35:11 kill. his brother right that's uh that's something
00:35:11 --> 00:35:13 that i'm gonna be heavy on for the next part
00:35:13 --> 00:35:17 that we have uh for the show uh because oh sorry
00:35:17 --> 00:35:20 if i'm jumping ahead here no no it's okay it's
00:35:20 --> 00:35:22 okay it's okay it's okay trust me um but when
00:35:22 --> 00:35:24 we do start talking about like the clone wars
00:35:24 --> 00:35:27 and episode three stuff i mean i'm gonna you're
00:35:27 --> 00:35:29 gonna hear me gush i'm absolutely going to gush
00:35:29 --> 00:35:32 because that is that is like my favorite period
00:35:32 --> 00:35:35 in the in the obi -wan series but i don't want
00:35:35 --> 00:35:37 to get off track so i want to bring us back to
00:35:37 --> 00:35:40 a couple of uh because i did have one more question
00:35:40 --> 00:35:43 for you uh with your adhd ass going all off on
00:35:43 --> 00:35:45 tangent you forgot ah i see i see uh -huh uh
00:35:45 --> 00:35:49 -huh i see what i and it's a it's a bit of a
00:35:49 --> 00:35:52 weird question i guess and that is it's about
00:35:52 --> 00:35:57 obi -wan's quote unquote obligation to train
00:35:57 --> 00:36:00 anakin like and and and i want to split this
00:36:00 --> 00:36:02 question to like two other parts which i'm going
00:36:02 --> 00:36:04 to take my i mean you might take on it first
00:36:04 --> 00:36:06 and then i want to hear yours if obi doesn't
00:36:06 --> 00:36:09 train anakin who would and what is the pressure
00:36:09 --> 00:36:13 of qui -gon's death and his decision to train
00:36:13 --> 00:36:17 anakin and so i'm gonna start it off so for for
00:36:17 --> 00:36:19 the first part i need to speak i need to speak
00:36:19 --> 00:36:24 before i leave no no i told you i got adhd okay
00:36:24 --> 00:36:26 go go go even though i said i'm gonna answer
00:36:26 --> 00:36:29 first but you know No, I need it. I got a point.
00:36:29 --> 00:36:33 I got to say it now. Okay, so if Obi didn't train
00:36:33 --> 00:36:37 Anakin, nobody trained Anakin except Sheev. Okay,
00:36:37 --> 00:36:39 Sheev was yoinking that kid right then and there.
00:36:40 --> 00:36:42 Because none of them wanted to train Anakin.
00:36:42 --> 00:36:45 They said he was too old. Yoda was like, get
00:36:45 --> 00:36:49 out, you must. And then freaking Mace over here
00:36:49 --> 00:36:53 was like, no, kid, you're too old. Peace. You
00:36:53 --> 00:36:57 know, no beggars in this temple. And so nobody
00:36:57 --> 00:36:59 is training Anakin. Sheev's going to pick him
00:36:59 --> 00:37:02 up because, you know, Sheev is still very charismatic.
00:37:02 --> 00:37:06 And he knows. that anakin uh is born of no fault
00:37:06 --> 00:37:09 he knows he knows the prophecy of course so he's
00:37:09 --> 00:37:11 gonna know that that anakin is gonna be powerful
00:37:11 --> 00:37:13 he can probably feel the force from you know
00:37:13 --> 00:37:16 galaxy away from that kid so that that was my
00:37:16 --> 00:37:18 my thought on that one i'm sorry you can go now
00:37:18 --> 00:37:20 i'll i'll answer the other part of the question
00:37:20 --> 00:37:24 after you go no no don't just just go No, because
00:37:24 --> 00:37:26 I'm going to need you to repeat the question
00:37:26 --> 00:37:28 because I forgot the second half already. See,
00:37:28 --> 00:37:30 fuck you. This is why you should have let me
00:37:30 --> 00:37:33 go first. You did fine. No, I had to go. See,
00:37:33 --> 00:37:36 I already forgot the second part. My train of
00:37:36 --> 00:37:38 thought is you got to go. All right, hear me
00:37:38 --> 00:37:42 out. Hear me out on this, on who I think should
00:37:42 --> 00:37:45 trade Anakin if Obi -Wan does it. Do you have
00:37:45 --> 00:37:47 a guess on what I'm thinking? I want to see what
00:37:47 --> 00:37:49 you... Like, what you think I think before I
00:37:49 --> 00:37:52 say. Let's see. We've got your favorite lightsaber,
00:37:52 --> 00:37:55 Depa Balaba. We've got psychopath, Luminara.
00:37:55 --> 00:38:00 We've got Ki with his big head. We got, there
00:38:00 --> 00:38:03 was no way Mace was training this kid. Beep,
00:38:03 --> 00:38:04 beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. We
00:38:04 --> 00:38:06 have a winner. That, that, yes. Dude, I want,
00:38:07 --> 00:38:10 that's what I want. I want him. I want Mace.
00:38:10 --> 00:38:13 Because I think that gives Anakin his outlet.
00:38:13 --> 00:38:17 I think Vapid is the answer. I really do. So
00:38:17 --> 00:38:20 am I like, OK, first off, think about a vapid
00:38:20 --> 00:38:25 Anakin like that's insane. Second, it's a way
00:38:25 --> 00:38:27 for him to channel his emotion, which is what
00:38:27 --> 00:38:29 he's struggling with. So why not better than
00:38:29 --> 00:38:33 the person who also has the same struggle is
00:38:33 --> 00:38:36 just a sexy chocolate black man like that's that's
00:38:36 --> 00:38:40 plus five. And then it's just I just think he's
00:38:40 --> 00:38:44 he's the one he's the one that should have trained
00:38:44 --> 00:38:48 Anakin. He just is. Like, it just makes so much
00:38:48 --> 00:38:51 sense. Like, just think, they would just talk
00:38:51 --> 00:38:53 to each other constantly. It would be back and
00:38:53 --> 00:38:55 forth and back and forth. Or either that or the
00:38:55 --> 00:38:58 hard extreme where, you know. Mace Windu being
00:38:58 --> 00:39:00 number two at the time is just like, knock the
00:39:00 --> 00:39:03 **** out and puts Anakin in line. Either way,
00:39:03 --> 00:39:07 I think that the answer to Anakin's frustrations
00:39:07 --> 00:39:10 built out is him not being able to take it out
00:39:10 --> 00:39:14 in an art form that he excels at. Do you know
00:39:14 --> 00:39:19 how... He's an emotional teenager, okay? Every
00:39:19 --> 00:39:22 emotional teenager, my gamers out there, when
00:39:22 --> 00:39:24 you can play a video game and you know you can
00:39:24 --> 00:39:26 ****, play it good and do it well and have a
00:39:26 --> 00:39:29 great time. Do you not f***ing do it? Like, I
00:39:29 --> 00:39:32 just feel like you're so much calmer when you're
00:39:32 --> 00:39:34 playing your f***ing video games, no? You chillin'.
00:39:34 --> 00:39:37 You jay chillin' and you beatin' ass. Anakin,
00:39:37 --> 00:39:40 Vapid was the answer. Mace Windu. That's, no.
00:39:40 --> 00:39:44 No one else. He, my opinion is he was too old
00:39:44 --> 00:39:48 to start training with Vapid because he already
00:39:48 --> 00:39:53 had the, like, attachments that Mace has, like,
00:39:53 --> 00:39:56 when, I mean, I, I haven't read, like, a Mace
00:39:56 --> 00:39:58 biography, you know, but... Shatterpoint! You
00:39:58 --> 00:40:00 have the game, read the book! I do have the game.
00:40:01 --> 00:40:03 And wrong. Wrong, by the way. I think wrong.
00:40:03 --> 00:40:07 Because the Karunai, the people that Mace Windu
00:40:07 --> 00:40:12 are, his race, they all start training. They
00:40:12 --> 00:40:15 have it from birth, but they do wait till they're
00:40:15 --> 00:40:19 kids and stuff to train with it. And even though
00:40:19 --> 00:40:21 it's inherently in the dark side, I feel like
00:40:21 --> 00:40:23 that puts Anakin at an advantage when you know
00:40:23 --> 00:40:25 the story of the Karunai and they're innate.
00:40:26 --> 00:40:28 connection to the dark side like that's something
00:40:28 --> 00:40:31 you learn in in shatterpoint is that mace windu
00:40:31 --> 00:40:32 comes from these people that are bred from the
00:40:32 --> 00:40:35 kind of it's it's the black it's the african
00:40:35 --> 00:40:38 equivalent to like the dathomiri people it's
00:40:38 --> 00:40:41 they're just the black dark side force users
00:40:41 --> 00:40:43 like literally they're all just beautiful chocolate
00:40:43 --> 00:40:47 men and women just doing dark side things naturally
00:40:47 --> 00:40:49 I think that's beautiful. I think that works
00:40:49 --> 00:40:53 for Anakin. He's literally the one white kid
00:40:53 --> 00:40:54 invited to the cookout. Like, I think it could
00:40:54 --> 00:40:59 have been something special. You know. Look,
00:40:59 --> 00:41:02 just. That's okay. Okay. No, no. Pause. Let me
00:41:02 --> 00:41:03 have fun. Let me have fun with my hypothetical.
00:41:04 --> 00:41:06 Okay. And let me argue it. Let me argue it. You
00:41:06 --> 00:41:09 want viewership? Let me argue it. All right.
00:41:09 --> 00:41:12 Look, you said they're born with it. All right.
00:41:12 --> 00:41:15 Maybe it's Maybelline. All right. Maybe they're
00:41:15 --> 00:41:18 born with it. You are crushing my dreams in front
00:41:18 --> 00:41:20 of me, and I have to watch it. I just have to
00:41:20 --> 00:41:22 watch it. I have to listen to it, too. No, no.
00:41:22 --> 00:41:24 You see, because maybe they're born with it.
00:41:24 --> 00:41:27 Maybe it's Maybelline. Anakin is Maybelline.
00:41:27 --> 00:41:31 Mace is born with it. All right? Anakin's got
00:41:31 --> 00:41:33 to wear the makeup. It's just how it is. All
00:41:33 --> 00:41:35 right? Going back to our who's your favorite
00:41:35 --> 00:41:39 twink. No, no, hold on. But my eye analogies,
00:41:39 --> 00:41:43 my comparisons are weird, but you just said maybe
00:41:43 --> 00:41:47 it's Maybelline? you hunter what that doesn't
00:41:47 --> 00:41:50 make any sense it wasn't meant to make very much
00:41:50 --> 00:41:55 sense at all like are you just making fun of
00:41:55 --> 00:41:57 me mockery is the sincerest form of flattery
00:41:57 --> 00:42:00 i guess well uh you know i do i do respect you
00:42:00 --> 00:42:05 so uh no but uh let's let's you know what i'm
00:42:05 --> 00:42:07 you know what i'm about to do though because
00:42:07 --> 00:42:10 we start talking about training with it as children
00:42:10 --> 00:42:12 you know where i'm gonna go with training child
00:42:12 --> 00:42:16 you know children to okay you know what i see
00:42:16 --> 00:42:18 your face i'm i'm watching you too i see your
00:42:18 --> 00:42:24 camera i know where you live oh you do but um
00:42:24 --> 00:42:28 no because if if your whole people is you know
00:42:28 --> 00:42:33 born and raised with this connection right you're
00:42:33 --> 00:42:36 it's part of your culture to to learn that right
00:42:36 --> 00:42:38 it's part of your culture to train in that hunter
00:42:38 --> 00:42:43 hunter hunter oh no He is literally forced Jesus.
00:42:44 --> 00:42:47 It does not matter. It does not. So then your
00:42:47 --> 00:42:50 point is moot. It does not matter. Jesus can
00:42:50 --> 00:42:52 do all things. I've heard the Christians speak.
00:42:54 --> 00:42:59 Yeah, stuck, stuck. What can you say? I just
00:42:59 --> 00:43:05 don't think Vapid was the move for Anakin. Okay,
00:43:05 --> 00:43:09 and I do. So no, because I think. No, I think
00:43:09 --> 00:43:14 because he's too strong in the force to be pulling
00:43:14 --> 00:43:17 like that, alright? Then who better than to the
00:43:17 --> 00:43:20 number two guy of the force at the time to help
00:43:20 --> 00:43:23 him? Hello? Like, he's not just a master for
00:43:23 --> 00:43:25 funsies. You mean the number two narcissist?
00:43:26 --> 00:43:29 Okay. Okay, I don't think that Mace Windu is
00:43:29 --> 00:43:32 a narcissist. The whole Jedi Order is just a...
00:43:32 --> 00:43:35 What's the word I'm looking for here? A poster
00:43:35 --> 00:43:38 child for narcissism. All right. Poster child
00:43:38 --> 00:43:40 for looking in the mirror and thinking you're
00:43:40 --> 00:43:42 awesome. No, that's not Mace Windu. I'm sorry.
00:43:43 --> 00:43:46 No, he looks in the mirror and is awesome. I
00:43:46 --> 00:43:49 agree. But that's not Mace Windu. You need to
00:43:49 --> 00:43:51 go read Shatterpoint. Go have a good time. You're
00:43:51 --> 00:43:52 welcome. I know you can power through books.
00:43:52 --> 00:43:55 I'm still on this point. And I'm going to keep
00:43:55 --> 00:43:58 arguing it until we're done here. No. It's never
00:43:58 --> 00:44:00 going to end. I'm never going to agree. I've
00:44:00 --> 00:44:02 thought about this a lot. I don't think Mace...
00:44:02 --> 00:44:04 I don't think Mace was a good choice. First of
00:44:04 --> 00:44:07 all, Mace was the strongest voice in the Jedi
00:44:07 --> 00:44:10 Council arguing against Anakin being trained.
00:44:11 --> 00:44:13 There's no way he turns around and says, you
00:44:13 --> 00:44:15 know what? I got you, homie. Let me teach you
00:44:15 --> 00:44:18 the super OP power that draws on the dark side
00:44:18 --> 00:44:20 when I'm already afraid of you falling to the
00:44:20 --> 00:44:24 dark side. Okay, look, it does not matter because
00:44:24 --> 00:44:27 one, if it's the will of the council, which it
00:44:27 --> 00:44:29 was decided it was, and he was still picked,
00:44:29 --> 00:44:33 he would. I mean, he would have to do it. I mean,
00:44:33 --> 00:44:35 even if he was against it, he would still have
00:44:35 --> 00:44:38 to do it. It's an order. Second, I'm asking you,
00:44:38 --> 00:44:41 if Obi -Wan doesn't, who is the best choice for
00:44:41 --> 00:44:45 him? And it's definitely Mace Windu. No shot,
00:44:45 --> 00:44:47 it's not. Mace Windu would know all the little
00:44:47 --> 00:44:50 tricks on how to handle the dark side, how to
00:44:50 --> 00:44:53 handle those deep, dark emotions. I think that
00:44:53 --> 00:44:56 Mace was being a bitch to Anakin because he didn't
00:44:56 --> 00:44:58 want this fucking kid in his order. Like, that
00:44:58 --> 00:45:02 I understand. But, like, if told to train, because
00:45:02 --> 00:45:04 of who he was, he would uphold what his duty
00:45:04 --> 00:45:07 is. And I think he would have to because he would
00:45:07 --> 00:45:09 see it. And he would know he was seeing it because
00:45:09 --> 00:45:13 he's trained in it. I just think that the question
00:45:13 --> 00:45:16 is if... If Obi -Wan doesn't train Anakin, who
00:45:16 --> 00:45:19 is the best? Okay, sure, you think that Mace
00:45:19 --> 00:45:22 Windu is a bad choice, but who is better? I think
00:45:22 --> 00:45:24 they're all f***ing bad choices, but the guy
00:45:24 --> 00:45:27 who knows how to handle the dark side is probably
00:45:27 --> 00:45:31 the best one to help your chosen one avoid the
00:45:31 --> 00:45:36 f***ing dark side. That doesn't make sense. Yes,
00:45:36 --> 00:45:40 it does. No, because... I know it's just the
00:45:40 --> 00:45:43 phrasing you used there, but like... The guy
00:45:43 --> 00:45:46 draws on the dark side when he fights. That is
00:45:46 --> 00:45:50 not avoiding the dark side in any way. I understand
00:45:50 --> 00:45:53 that, but it's how you gain mastery of it, though.
00:45:53 --> 00:45:56 You have to go through it. It's one of the reasons,
00:45:57 --> 00:46:00 it's one of my tenets that I hold high for Star
00:46:00 --> 00:46:02 Wars lore, especially when you think about Legends,
00:46:02 --> 00:46:06 is the fact that the best... Force users in the
00:46:06 --> 00:46:10 galaxy have always been those who are trained
00:46:10 --> 00:46:13 in both sides. Those who know about both sides.
00:46:13 --> 00:46:16 Luke, Revan, point blank, period. Those people.
00:46:16 --> 00:46:19 I think that just the background that we have,
00:46:19 --> 00:46:23 him being Force Jesus, literally the Force Holy
00:46:23 --> 00:46:26 Spirit impregnated Shmi Skywalker and Force Jesus
00:46:26 --> 00:46:30 was born. I think that you're not giving him
00:46:30 --> 00:46:33 enough leeway for how important that would be.
00:46:33 --> 00:46:36 in the overall scheme of things too because now
00:46:36 --> 00:46:39 if he has mastery over the dark side he can avoid
00:46:39 --> 00:46:41 it but now that he has mastery over the dark
00:46:41 --> 00:46:45 side and the light side how better to manage
00:46:45 --> 00:46:47 the brother and the sister like i don't understand
00:46:47 --> 00:46:49 why you are disagreeing with me on this this
00:46:49 --> 00:46:52 makes no sense based on what you like you You're
00:46:52 --> 00:46:55 arguing for argument's sake, I swear. It's a
00:46:55 --> 00:46:57 little bit of both. I disagree with you and I'm
00:46:57 --> 00:47:00 arguing because it's fun. Man, man, I don't deserve
00:47:00 --> 00:47:03 this. I pay taxes. I do it of my own accord.
00:47:04 --> 00:47:07 Like, I'm a good person, I swear. Jesus. All
00:47:07 --> 00:47:09 right, all right. What's the second half of the
00:47:09 --> 00:47:12 damn question? how do you think the pressure
00:47:12 --> 00:47:15 of the decision affected Obi -Wan and the decision
00:47:15 --> 00:47:18 itself? Like, so for him to train Anakin, that
00:47:18 --> 00:47:22 is so like, do you think that the, the, like
00:47:22 --> 00:47:25 basically what does. Qui -Gon's death in the
00:47:25 --> 00:47:28 grand scheme of things make you think about Obi
00:47:28 --> 00:47:30 -Wan's decision and pressure to follow through
00:47:30 --> 00:47:32 with the training of Anakin. We've seen this
00:47:32 --> 00:47:35 in countless, countless stories. Your homie dies
00:47:35 --> 00:47:37 and his final wish is for you to blah, blah,
00:47:37 --> 00:47:39 blah, whatever. And then you spend your whole
00:47:39 --> 00:47:42 life trying to, you know, live up to that blah,
00:47:42 --> 00:47:44 blah, blah, because your homie was the realist
00:47:44 --> 00:47:46 one there was, right? We see that so many times
00:47:46 --> 00:47:50 in media. So I, there was definitely... a lot
00:47:50 --> 00:47:53 of pressure and the fact that we know that Qui
00:47:53 --> 00:47:54 -Gon's a force ghost and he's just sitting there
00:47:54 --> 00:47:58 watching Obi -Wan this whole time I know Obi
00:47:58 --> 00:48:00 -Wan didn't know that but but can you just imagine
00:48:00 --> 00:48:03 he didn't train Anakin and Qui -Gon is just following
00:48:03 --> 00:48:06 him for like the rest of time just shaking his
00:48:06 --> 00:48:09 head like with his arms crossed like there was
00:48:09 --> 00:48:11 always a bigger fish man he should have gone
00:48:11 --> 00:48:17 for the fit like i mean there was absolutely
00:48:17 --> 00:48:23 pressure um and my back to my point for your
00:48:23 --> 00:48:25 first half of this question he couldn't have
00:48:25 --> 00:48:29 known no no no no no no no no no i'm not arguing
00:48:29 --> 00:48:32 anymore but he couldn't he couldn't have known
00:48:32 --> 00:48:36 that the jedi council would still accept the
00:48:36 --> 00:48:39 training of anakin after qui -gon if he didn't
00:48:39 --> 00:48:43 step up to the plate because they were very adamant
00:48:43 --> 00:48:45 that they didn't want him to be trained and qui
00:48:45 --> 00:48:47 -gon was like i will train the boy it's fine
00:48:47 --> 00:48:50 like don't worry so there was hella pressure
00:48:50 --> 00:48:52 because now anakin's you know been told like
00:48:52 --> 00:48:54 i'm gonna be trained i'm gonna be a jedi this
00:48:54 --> 00:48:57 is awesome and then obi -wan gonna turn around
00:48:57 --> 00:49:02 and be like sorry uh and uh yeah the the order
00:49:02 --> 00:49:05 definitely probably can you make that sound again
00:49:05 --> 00:49:08 please What are you doing? What do you mean?
00:49:09 --> 00:49:15 What is that? Do it again. Oh, okay. You know
00:49:15 --> 00:49:17 what? No, that's staying in the show. I'm sorry.
00:49:18 --> 00:49:24 Thank you. But anyway, you're welcome. yeah they're
00:49:24 --> 00:49:27 just gonna be like and no uh no thanks uh you
00:49:27 --> 00:49:29 know he doesn't know he has no clue if they're
00:49:29 --> 00:49:30 gonna if they're gonna train anakin or not so
00:49:30 --> 00:49:33 yeah he definitely was very pressured not only
00:49:33 --> 00:49:36 from his master's final wishes but also from
00:49:36 --> 00:49:39 the fact that there's no guarantee that anakin
00:49:39 --> 00:49:41 would then have a good master so he's trying
00:49:41 --> 00:49:44 to step up to the plate he's also Still a teenager
00:49:44 --> 00:49:47 at that point, right? He's like 18, 19. So still
00:49:47 --> 00:49:50 a very impressionable age. And he's just been
00:49:50 --> 00:49:53 given a directive by this really old guru that
00:49:53 --> 00:49:56 he smokes weed with in the back room. And like
00:49:56 --> 00:49:59 his last words are like, bro, you got to train
00:49:59 --> 00:50:03 that kid. And then the Jedi, you know, the Jedi
00:50:03 --> 00:50:05 Temple, who's like, whoa, we don't we don't you
00:50:05 --> 00:50:07 know, we don't smoke that here. He has no clue
00:50:07 --> 00:50:09 if they're going to accept that kid. Anyway,
00:50:09 --> 00:50:12 that was an analogy for you to understand. You're
00:50:12 --> 00:50:15 just missing the mark on these today, sir. I'm
00:50:15 --> 00:50:19 sorry. That'll be $34 .99. I take cash. All major
00:50:19 --> 00:50:24 cash apps. Venmo's. Sell. $34 .99, brother? No,
00:50:24 --> 00:50:26 that was terrible. Come on. You pay me for that
00:50:26 --> 00:50:28 one. I bought you pizza. You bought me pizza?
00:50:28 --> 00:50:30 I don't owe you nothing. When did you buy me
00:50:30 --> 00:50:33 pizza? Oh, you did buy me pizza. My bad. All
00:50:33 --> 00:50:36 right. Anyways, guys, thank you so much for being
00:50:36 --> 00:50:38 here for the show today. This has been part one
00:50:38 --> 00:50:43 of the Obi -Wan Kenobi season finale. Peace out,
00:50:43 --> 00:50:44 Girl Scouts. Thank you so much for watching.
00:50:44 --> 00:50:49 And be sure to follow us on Spotify, Apple Music,
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00:50:58 --> 00:51:01 is on the podcast. And... We will see you guys
00:51:01 --> 00:51:04 on the next episode. May the force be with you
00:51:04 --> 00:51:07 and have a wonderful day. Today's episode goes
00:51:07 --> 00:51:09 out in dedication to the loving memory of Emma
00:51:09 --> 00:51:12 Stewart, Hunter's grandmother, who passed before
00:51:12 --> 00:51:15 this episode could be released. I lost my grandmother
00:51:15 --> 00:51:18 earlier this year, and it was tough. And I know
00:51:18 --> 00:51:21 from just talking to Hunter that his grandmother,
00:51:21 --> 00:51:23 like mine, was very loving and supportive of
00:51:23 --> 00:51:27 our enjoyment of Star Wars and helped form us
00:51:27 --> 00:51:30 to the men we are today, having fun on this podcast.
00:51:30 --> 00:51:34 And so, again, this episode goes out to... her
00:51:34 --> 00:51:36 enduring spirit, and the brightness that she
00:51:36 --> 00:51:39 shined on Hunter's life. She will continue to
00:51:39 --> 00:51:41 guide us through the forest as a luminous star
00:51:41 --> 00:51:43 in this cosmic tapestry of our shared emotions
00:51:43 --> 00:51:46 and love for such a great sci -fi series. So,
00:51:46 --> 00:51:49 in proper Mandalorian fashion, Hunter and I have
00:51:49 --> 00:51:58 one final send -off. In Mandalorian, this is
00:51:58 --> 00:51:59 a daily remembrance of those who have passed
00:51:59 --> 00:52:02 on. It means, I'm still alive, but you are dead.
00:52:03 --> 00:52:06 I remember you, so you are eternal. And that
00:52:06 --> 00:52:08 is one of the most beautiful things in Mandalorian
00:52:08 --> 00:52:11 culture, in my opinion. We'll forever remember
00:52:11 --> 00:52:12 you, Bob Weir.