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In this episode of "Versus", catch the battle of Mara Jade Skywalker versus Emperor Palpatine between Wen'shi and Exotic.
00:00:00 --> 00:00:03 Hey, I pissed him off before we started recording,
00:00:03 --> 00:00:06 so you can rage bait the shit out of him pretty
00:00:06 --> 00:00:08 easily in this versus. Oh, I was already pissed
00:00:08 --> 00:00:11 off before we even started playing games. And
00:00:11 --> 00:00:13 then I pissed him off more, so it's like extra
00:00:13 --> 00:00:16 piss off. He's a piss boy. He's extra piss. He's
00:00:16 --> 00:00:20 pissy. I'm never pissy. I'm not pissy. I'm just
00:00:20 --> 00:00:23 mad when you cheat. What do you mean? You cheated
00:00:23 --> 00:00:25 last versus. I hope he dumpsters you. I know
00:00:25 --> 00:00:27 he's going to dumpster you. Do you even know
00:00:27 --> 00:00:29 what our characters are? I mean, I know what
00:00:29 --> 00:00:32 his is because he knows Legends like I do, and
00:00:32 --> 00:00:33 he picked the same shit that I would have picked.
00:00:34 --> 00:00:36 Yours is the Black Horse. I assume you both sent
00:00:36 --> 00:00:39 them to Brick. I sent mine. I can almost guarantee
00:00:39 --> 00:00:42 you that he never would have picked it. He doesn't
00:00:42 --> 00:00:43 know Legends shit, so of course he's not going
00:00:43 --> 00:01:14 to pick it. Hey, everyone, and welcome to our
00:01:14 --> 00:01:17 next installment of Versus. I'm still salty about
00:01:17 --> 00:01:21 my last defeat at the hands of Exotic, but hopefully
00:01:21 --> 00:01:24 my boy Winshi here. He ran off our brick 3PO
00:01:24 --> 00:01:27 moderator. It's not my fault. It's not my fault
00:01:27 --> 00:01:30 he can't handle the rage bait. I thought it was
00:01:30 --> 00:01:32 pretty clear that I was rage baiting. But I still
00:01:32 --> 00:01:34 thought it was funny. He's not here. Poor Brick.
00:01:34 --> 00:01:36 You're a dick most of the time, so understandable.
00:01:37 --> 00:01:39 Most of the time. Not all the time, though. But
00:01:39 --> 00:01:42 I will be functioning. Shut up. Shut up. Shut
00:01:42 --> 00:01:44 up. Eat shit. I hope you lose today. You deserve
00:01:44 --> 00:01:48 a loss. Anywho, I will be functioning as today's
00:01:48 --> 00:01:51 moderator for this. So we have our versus topics
00:01:51 --> 00:01:54 and everything ready. They've sent me their characters.
00:01:54 --> 00:01:57 So I'm going to go ahead and introduce both.
00:01:58 --> 00:02:00 On the hopefully winning side, we have Winchie,
00:02:00 --> 00:02:03 who has chosen Mara Jade Skywalker as his choice.
00:02:04 --> 00:02:07 And on the gay side, we have Exotic. who has
00:02:07 --> 00:02:10 chosen Emperor Palpatine. I feel like there's
00:02:10 --> 00:02:13 some bias already here. I promise there will
00:02:13 --> 00:02:17 be no bias. If you argue better, you win. The
00:02:17 --> 00:02:19 topics are going to be overall force ability,
00:02:20 --> 00:02:22 which includes techniques, mastery, and understanding
00:02:22 --> 00:02:25 of the force. The next one is natural speed,
00:02:25 --> 00:02:28 which is unenhanced. Then we have stealthiness,
00:02:28 --> 00:02:32 close quarters combat mastery, and charisma or
00:02:32 --> 00:02:36 being charismatic. With that being said, my two
00:02:36 --> 00:02:38 duelists, go at it. Before we start, I have one
00:02:38 --> 00:02:42 question. I have an answer. Hopefully. Enhanced.
00:02:42 --> 00:02:44 What do you mean by enhanced? Or unenhanced?
00:02:44 --> 00:02:49 Like, without the force. They're physical. That's
00:02:49 --> 00:02:50 what I figured. I just wanted to double check.
00:02:50 --> 00:02:53 I mean, your bitch sits in a fucking wheelchair,
00:02:53 --> 00:02:55 so I mean. I mean, he's a little decrepit. I
00:02:55 --> 00:02:58 kind of hate that. I'm fine with that. All right.
00:02:58 --> 00:03:00 That's one point for Mara Jade. Okay. Then we
00:03:00 --> 00:03:04 can go to overall force ability. I mean, I think
00:03:04 --> 00:03:08 Palps is the strongest Force user in the movies,
00:03:08 --> 00:03:10 at least. I don't know much about Legends, I
00:03:10 --> 00:03:12 know that's y 'all's forte, but I know he is
00:03:12 --> 00:03:15 by far the strongest Force user that is known
00:03:15 --> 00:03:18 in the Star Wars world. Okay, first of all...
00:03:18 --> 00:03:22 cap i don't even like hella cap so much cap first
00:03:22 --> 00:03:24 of all okay you're like i don't know legends
00:03:24 --> 00:03:26 but he's the most powerful in the star wars world
00:03:26 --> 00:03:29 no that but i know those two statements already
00:03:29 --> 00:03:32 conflict that i know of there was that in there
00:03:32 --> 00:03:34 too see the thing is you you know of characters
00:03:34 --> 00:03:37 in legends because we've already talked about
00:03:37 --> 00:03:39 them yeah but do i listen most time not really
00:03:39 --> 00:03:42 oh okay cool so we can just kick you oh shit
00:03:42 --> 00:03:44 if you want free up my sunday exotic is dead
00:03:44 --> 00:03:48 yeah you already tried to kill me once it's been
00:03:48 --> 00:03:50 like three times now every time you don't show
00:03:50 --> 00:03:52 up i just talk about how you uh talk about how
00:03:52 --> 00:03:58 you did he got seismic charged i mean helps trained
00:03:58 --> 00:04:01 marjade so like she has a bit of his talent And
00:04:01 --> 00:04:03 then Mara Jade trained with Luke for years and
00:04:03 --> 00:04:07 years and years. Luke was arguably way more powerful
00:04:07 --> 00:04:10 than Palpatine, definitely, in the later years
00:04:10 --> 00:04:12 of his life. And I mean, Mara was a master alongside
00:04:12 --> 00:04:16 him. She was also pretty fucking powerful. Mara
00:04:16 --> 00:04:18 almost beat Cadis, and Cadis was touted as being
00:04:18 --> 00:04:21 stronger than Vader was in the Force. And I mean,
00:04:21 --> 00:04:23 Vader killed Palpatine. Palpatine was afraid
00:04:23 --> 00:04:26 of that motherfucker. I still think Palpatine's
00:04:26 --> 00:04:28 stronger than Vader in the Force. Now let me
00:04:28 --> 00:04:30 make a small interjection here. It's just, it's
00:04:30 --> 00:04:33 overall force ability, not strength in the force.
00:04:33 --> 00:04:36 So this includes techniques, mastery, and understanding.
00:04:36 --> 00:04:38 God, Palpatine's understanding of the Force was
00:04:38 --> 00:04:41 insane. Hold on. Holding? Yeah, I can't really,
00:04:41 --> 00:04:43 I can't, I mean, he brought himself fucking back
00:04:43 --> 00:04:45 to life. I mean, that's kind of, it's kind of
00:04:45 --> 00:04:47 hard to top that. From what I don't really know.
00:04:48 --> 00:04:50 Mara Jade's feats are, Mara Jade's cool, but,
00:04:50 --> 00:04:52 like, she doesn't have that kind of repertoire.
00:04:53 --> 00:04:54 Yeah, he had, like, what, battle meditation,
00:04:55 --> 00:04:56 could fucking manipulate a whole bunch of fucking
00:04:56 --> 00:04:59 people at the same time. Fucking said no you
00:04:59 --> 00:05:02 to death like three times, I think. Twice. He'll
00:05:02 --> 00:05:04 probably come back at some point again. Let's
00:05:04 --> 00:05:06 be real. No one Disney. Okay, next topic. One
00:05:06 --> 00:05:10 for Palps, one for Marge. Do you want to go to
00:05:10 --> 00:05:12 stealthiness? It's the next one on the list.
00:05:12 --> 00:05:14 Sure. I mean, Palpatine fucking hit himself as
00:05:14 --> 00:05:18 a Sith in front of every single Jedi for years.
00:05:18 --> 00:05:20 That's true, but that's just masking your presence,
00:05:20 --> 00:05:22 okay? That's still stealth. That's literally
00:05:22 --> 00:05:24 the definition of stealth is masking your presence.
00:05:25 --> 00:05:27 No, no, no. See, there's a difference between,
00:05:27 --> 00:05:31 okay, being somebody who can blend in and somebody
00:05:31 --> 00:05:34 who's actually stealthy. Mara Jade was an assassin
00:05:34 --> 00:05:38 trained to be stealthy. Like, that's her whole
00:05:38 --> 00:05:41 deal. She's an assassin. She also was inside
00:05:41 --> 00:05:44 of the fucking Rebel Alliance, perfectly being
00:05:44 --> 00:05:47 played off as a rebel for the longest fucking
00:05:47 --> 00:05:50 time until Luke... Force pinged that bitch while
00:05:50 --> 00:05:52 they were in their X -Wings and he shot her ass
00:05:52 --> 00:05:53 down. Which is funny because they ended up getting,
00:05:54 --> 00:05:56 you know, married later. But, like, she can blend
00:05:56 --> 00:05:58 in too. She was trained by Palpatine to do that.
00:05:58 --> 00:06:01 But she's also an assassin on top of that. Okay,
00:06:01 --> 00:06:03 but she was found out. Palpatine was only found
00:06:03 --> 00:06:05 out whenever he fucking just straight up told
00:06:05 --> 00:06:07 Anakin. That's fair. They would have never found
00:06:07 --> 00:06:11 Palpatine if Anakin didn't open his mouth. I
00:06:11 --> 00:06:14 mean, Windu said in one of the meetings in the
00:06:14 --> 00:06:17 movie, the dark side surrounds the chancellor.
00:06:17 --> 00:06:20 So they kind of been new. Obviously, they could
00:06:20 --> 00:06:22 do about it because they didn't have proof, but
00:06:22 --> 00:06:25 they've been new. But how long was he over there,
00:06:25 --> 00:06:28 you know, doing his little rich gay guy routine?
00:06:28 --> 00:06:31 What other stealthy feats does he have? What
00:06:31 --> 00:06:35 other stealthy feats does Palpatine do? Like,
00:06:35 --> 00:06:38 what else he got? Other than the fact that he's
00:06:38 --> 00:06:41 just a good ass fucking... charismatic how many
00:06:41 --> 00:06:44 how many years how many years did he just talk
00:06:44 --> 00:06:46 to every single jedi and just like oh yeah nothing's
00:06:46 --> 00:06:49 wrong okay that's like the critical of stealthy
00:06:49 --> 00:06:52 again that's still being one thing that he did
00:06:52 --> 00:06:54 it just went for a long period of time i feel
00:06:54 --> 00:06:57 like stealthiness the longer it you're stealthed
00:06:57 --> 00:07:00 is a lot better than doing it here and that motherfucker
00:07:00 --> 00:07:03 can crouch and like crawl through some air ducts
00:07:03 --> 00:07:05 and shit his knees will break before he gets
00:07:05 --> 00:07:09 in there he don't need to that okay That's like
00:07:09 --> 00:07:13 infiltration. Yeah, that's part of being stealthy.
00:07:13 --> 00:07:16 I don't think infiltration is part of being stealthy.
00:07:17 --> 00:07:19 Okay, well then your whole point is invalid because
00:07:19 --> 00:07:22 he infiltrated the Galactic Senate. I'm talking
00:07:22 --> 00:07:25 about like physical infiltration. That was physical
00:07:25 --> 00:07:27 infiltration. He was there in the Senate. He's
00:07:27 --> 00:07:30 hiding in plain sight. He is hiding in plain
00:07:30 --> 00:07:32 sight. That is infiltration. You're talking about
00:07:32 --> 00:07:35 climbing through a fucking duct. Okay. I'm talking
00:07:35 --> 00:07:37 about sneaking aboard starships. I'm talking
00:07:37 --> 00:07:40 about assassinating key leaders of, you know,
00:07:40 --> 00:07:43 various organizations, the rebellion, whatever.
00:07:43 --> 00:07:45 How many times did she get caught? How many times
00:07:45 --> 00:07:48 did she get caught? Once, when she gets blown
00:07:48 --> 00:07:50 out the sky by Luke. How many times did Palpatine
00:07:50 --> 00:07:54 get caught? Once. He didn't get caught. He straight
00:07:54 --> 00:07:56 up just said, you know, he just, he revealed
00:07:56 --> 00:07:58 himself. She got fucked over by somebody else.
00:07:58 --> 00:08:01 That's being stupid. No, that's part of his grand
00:08:01 --> 00:08:03 plan. That's just Dekutla stuff right there.
00:08:04 --> 00:08:06 No, she got caught when she didn't want to get
00:08:06 --> 00:08:08 caught. He got caught when he wanted to get caught.
00:08:08 --> 00:08:10 That's the pinnacle of stealthiness. It's under
00:08:10 --> 00:08:12 his terms. She wasn't under her terms. If you
00:08:12 --> 00:08:14 read the novel, Palpatine was really fucking
00:08:14 --> 00:08:17 worried in that whole scene. Because Anakin was
00:08:17 --> 00:08:20 the linchpin to his whole plan. Exactly. He revealed
00:08:20 --> 00:08:22 himself. It was a very risky maneuver to reveal
00:08:22 --> 00:08:25 himself. He wasn't even going to do it. It was
00:08:25 --> 00:08:27 kind of a spur of the moment thing. He did it.
00:08:27 --> 00:08:31 And he... voluntarily got caught she got caught
00:08:31 --> 00:08:33 when she didn't want to get caught obviously
00:08:33 --> 00:08:36 her stealthiness is worse i think so i think
00:08:36 --> 00:08:38 so i mean if i'm hiding from somebody the only
00:08:38 --> 00:08:41 reason she got caught so so so is the same way
00:08:41 --> 00:08:44 that mace windu knew some shit was up with palpatine
00:08:44 --> 00:08:46 because he said the dark sides fucking surrounds
00:08:46 --> 00:08:49 that motherfucker right the only reason mara
00:08:49 --> 00:08:52 got shot down in her x -wing when she was flying
00:08:52 --> 00:08:56 with luke Was because the dark side was surrounding
00:08:56 --> 00:08:58 her. It's the same fucking shit. And Luke just
00:08:58 --> 00:09:01 surrendered himself to the force because so much
00:09:01 --> 00:09:03 crap was going on. And he just started taking
00:09:03 --> 00:09:06 down targets. Targets that had intent to kill
00:09:06 --> 00:09:09 his homies or bad intentions toward his homies.
00:09:09 --> 00:09:12 That's the same shit that Windu and Yoda and
00:09:12 --> 00:09:14 all of them were feeling whenever Palpatine was
00:09:14 --> 00:09:17 around. But she was taken down. He was only taken
00:09:17 --> 00:09:20 down on his accord. I mean, he got he got taken
00:09:20 --> 00:09:23 down until Anakin cut his arm off or Mace Windu's
00:09:23 --> 00:09:25 arm off. Boy was dead to rights. I don't know.
00:09:25 --> 00:09:28 I think she. No, no, I know. Because she got
00:09:28 --> 00:09:30 caught. He didn't get caught. He only got he.
00:09:31 --> 00:09:33 revealed himself i wouldn't even say got caught
00:09:33 --> 00:09:36 she got caught in her actions he did not no no
00:09:36 --> 00:09:38 he definitely he definitely got caught in his
00:09:38 --> 00:09:41 actions nope he revealed jedi masters walked
00:09:41 --> 00:09:42 into his office and said we're here to arrest
00:09:42 --> 00:09:46 you motherfucker all right we'll go to the close
00:09:46 --> 00:09:48 quarter combat mastery and circle back to stealthiness
00:09:48 --> 00:09:51 because that motherfucker took down for fucking
00:09:51 --> 00:09:53 jedi no matter what i didn't say lightsaber mastery
00:09:53 --> 00:09:56 that's a different topic it's close quarters
00:09:56 --> 00:09:58 combat that's a different that's what lightsabers
00:09:58 --> 00:10:00 are that's what lightsabers are of course close
00:10:00 --> 00:10:03 quarters combat Close quarters combat is hand
00:10:03 --> 00:10:06 -to -hand combat. No, it doesn't say hand -to
00:10:06 --> 00:10:08 -hand. Because we have a lightsaber mastery category.
00:10:08 --> 00:10:10 It doesn't say hand -to -hand. It just says close
00:10:10 --> 00:10:13 quarters combat. Okay, moderator interjection.
00:10:13 --> 00:10:15 This was specified by Brick3PO that those two
00:10:15 --> 00:10:18 are different. Close quarters combat is referenced
00:10:18 --> 00:10:20 to hand -to -hand, not lightsaber. There's a
00:10:20 --> 00:10:22 separate category for that. Thank you, moderator.
00:10:23 --> 00:10:27 Get fucked, okay? Mara Jade is an assassin. She
00:10:27 --> 00:10:30 is a close quarters specialist because that bitch
00:10:30 --> 00:10:32 is supposed to get in and beat the fuck out of
00:10:32 --> 00:10:34 somebody real fast and get out. She can fight
00:10:34 --> 00:10:37 without a lightsaber all day throwing hands.
00:10:37 --> 00:10:39 How many hands is fucking Palpatine gonna throw
00:10:39 --> 00:10:42 before you break his neck on accident? I mean,
00:10:42 --> 00:10:44 Palpatine did throw hands with Maul and Savage
00:10:44 --> 00:10:46 in the Clone Wars series. He used his lightsaber
00:10:46 --> 00:10:48 most of the time, but he still threw hands with
00:10:48 --> 00:10:50 them. Okay, but he did use his lightsaber, right?
00:10:51 --> 00:10:52 At some point, yeah. But he did throw hands with
00:10:52 --> 00:10:55 them. Okay. marj beats the fuck out of so many
00:10:55 --> 00:10:58 people before she ever even uses a lightsaber
00:10:58 --> 00:11:00 she was trained to be an assassin she was trained
00:11:00 --> 00:11:03 in hand -to -hand combat by palpatine and his
00:11:03 --> 00:11:05 fucking royal guards all right i'll give you
00:11:05 --> 00:11:08 close course combat since thank you you know
00:11:08 --> 00:11:11 y 'all want to bullshit it um well y 'all there's
00:11:11 --> 00:11:14 only one of me i know we don't talk about bullshit
00:11:14 --> 00:11:18 after last it's only one of us well fine we'll
00:11:18 --> 00:11:21 go to charisma palpatine wins that shit he's
00:11:21 --> 00:11:23 one of the most charismatic politicians there
00:11:23 --> 00:11:26 is He's the king of manipulation. I mean, Mara
00:11:26 --> 00:11:29 Jade, look, people love Luke, right? Okay. Mara
00:11:29 --> 00:11:32 Jade got shot down by Luke and still managed
00:11:32 --> 00:11:35 to get in that man's pants. That's pretty charismatic.
00:11:35 --> 00:11:37 But Palpatine got in the pants of pretty much
00:11:37 --> 00:11:39 the entire Senate. I ain't see him running around
00:11:39 --> 00:11:42 with it. You don't know that. Definitely in the
00:11:42 --> 00:11:45 kid's dreams. I'm pretty sure the only kids that
00:11:45 --> 00:11:49 Palpatine had were clones. Ray's parents were
00:11:49 --> 00:11:51 clones. Charismatic doesn't just mean about fucking.
00:11:51 --> 00:11:55 Okay, and? He was in the pockets of everybody.
00:11:55 --> 00:11:58 Everybody just, you know, he could manipulate
00:11:58 --> 00:12:01 with his pure charm the entire fucking Senate
00:12:01 --> 00:12:03 if he wanted, which he did. That's how he got
00:12:03 --> 00:12:05 fucking power. That's how he got power to fucking
00:12:05 --> 00:12:09 start Order 66 and control all the clones. You
00:12:09 --> 00:12:11 right. You right. I still gotta argue against
00:12:11 --> 00:12:13 it. All I'm saying was, if you've read the books
00:12:13 --> 00:12:17 that Marjade's in, She's just as good at playing
00:12:17 --> 00:12:20 off being charismatic, playing off being a politician,
00:12:20 --> 00:12:22 playing off being a high whatever, whatever you
00:12:22 --> 00:12:25 want to call it, high ranking official or whatever.
00:12:25 --> 00:12:27 She's very good at it. It's kind of her whole
00:12:27 --> 00:12:30 thing because, you know, she's a assassin and
00:12:30 --> 00:12:33 a stealth infiltration specialist. That's what
00:12:33 --> 00:12:35 she'd be doing. But she didn't manipulate her.
00:12:36 --> 00:12:38 She didn't manipulate entire populations. I'm
00:12:38 --> 00:12:40 pretty sure she did, actually. I think I can
00:12:40 --> 00:12:43 pull up a reference even. On the scale that Palpatine
00:12:43 --> 00:12:45 did? I mean, I'm talking like planetary scale.
00:12:45 --> 00:12:48 Palpatine was like galaxy scale. Well, no, he
00:12:48 --> 00:12:50 was mostly just manipulating the members of the
00:12:50 --> 00:12:52 Senate. Which are representatives of the galaxy.
00:12:53 --> 00:12:55 Okay, that doesn't mean they smart. They don't
00:12:55 --> 00:12:57 gotta be smart. He's charismatic. That doesn't
00:12:57 --> 00:13:00 mean they're strong -willed. That doesn't mean
00:13:00 --> 00:13:02 that he didn't just use the force to get them
00:13:02 --> 00:13:04 to do what he wanted them to do. Which he did.
00:13:04 --> 00:13:07 Sometimes. Not all the time. He was very charismatic.
00:13:08 --> 00:13:11 As a, what, Nabooian politician to start? Hey,
00:13:11 --> 00:13:15 Brick3PO replacement, how many members of the
00:13:15 --> 00:13:16 Senate were there? I don't even get a name. I
00:13:16 --> 00:13:20 don't even get a fucking name. You ran him off.
00:13:21 --> 00:13:24 You are Brick3PO's replacement today. Jesus.
00:13:24 --> 00:13:27 What was the question again? How many members
00:13:27 --> 00:13:29 of the Senate are there? I believe they base
00:13:29 --> 00:13:31 it off a megabyte. So if I remember correctly,
00:13:32 --> 00:13:35 it's 1024. OK, great. So he manipulated a thousand
00:13:35 --> 00:13:37 people. That's it. Some of them with the force.
00:13:37 --> 00:13:39 So we're going to say, you know, less than a
00:13:39 --> 00:13:42 thousand people in the Senate that he charismatically,
00:13:42 --> 00:13:44 quote unquote, manipulated or with. Oh, wait,
00:13:44 --> 00:13:47 hold on. Hold on. I made a mistake. There was.
00:13:48 --> 00:13:51 1024 Senate pods and two senators per Senate
00:13:51 --> 00:13:56 pod. So 2040. OK, great. Even that's still only
00:13:56 --> 00:13:59 2000 people. And then he manipulate the leaders
00:13:59 --> 00:14:02 of the the CIS. Not really. That was mostly Dooku.
00:14:02 --> 00:14:04 They just knew he was kind of pulling the strings
00:14:04 --> 00:14:07 behind his back. I mean, he manipulated Dooku.
00:14:07 --> 00:14:09 He didn't really have to. Dooku was willingly
00:14:09 --> 00:14:12 his apprentice. Exactly, because he was manipulated
00:14:12 --> 00:14:13 by an archetype. He was like, hey, come get some
00:14:13 --> 00:14:16 power, and Dooku was like, Papa, you say? And
00:14:16 --> 00:14:17 then he was like, hey, you get to be racist,
00:14:17 --> 00:14:20 and Dooku was like, racist, you say? This is
00:14:20 --> 00:14:22 correct. Can't verify. Very much true. There's
00:14:22 --> 00:14:25 a quote in the book where basically Palpatine
00:14:25 --> 00:14:27 told Dooku that... He was going to get rid of
00:14:27 --> 00:14:30 all the fucking aliens from all the positions
00:14:30 --> 00:14:32 of power. That's not even the most fucked up
00:14:32 --> 00:14:34 racist thing that Dooku did. Dooku, when he got
00:14:34 --> 00:14:37 his hands chopped off by Anakin, his first thought
00:14:37 --> 00:14:41 was not, oh shit, I'm about to die. It was, oh
00:14:41 --> 00:14:44 shit, I'm a cripple and less of a human. All
00:14:44 --> 00:14:48 I'm saying is Mara Jade is a master spy. Palpatine,
00:14:48 --> 00:14:50 A, used the force for a lot of his shit. Yes,
00:14:50 --> 00:14:53 he was a little bit charismatic, you know, moving
00:14:53 --> 00:14:54 his way up. Definitely not a little bit. But
00:14:54 --> 00:14:56 I mean, it's a little bit. I mean, he only had
00:14:56 --> 00:14:59 to, you know, manipulate 2 people. It's
00:14:59 --> 00:15:00 not that many. And did he really have to manipulate
00:15:00 --> 00:15:03 half of them when they don't even speak Galactic
00:15:03 --> 00:15:05 Basic? And he had to manipulate pretty much all
00:15:05 --> 00:15:07 of Naboo to get elected as Senator of Naboo.
00:15:07 --> 00:15:09 He was already born into a wealthy family. He
00:15:09 --> 00:15:13 was already at the top of the totem pole. I mean,
00:15:13 --> 00:15:15 plenty of people that are not hated. Plagueis
00:15:15 --> 00:15:17 totally helped him do that whole thing. Most
00:15:17 --> 00:15:19 of that was honestly Plagueis. I thought Plagueis
00:15:19 --> 00:15:22 was gone by the time he got elected. As a senator,
00:15:22 --> 00:15:25 yes. As a chancellor, no. Wait, no. Your statement
00:15:25 --> 00:15:27 was backwards. Because you said, I thought Plagueis
00:15:27 --> 00:15:30 was gone. Plagueis was alive. Okay, what I was
00:15:30 --> 00:15:32 trying to say was Plagueis was alive while Palpatine
00:15:32 --> 00:15:35 was a senator. And as a chancellor, he wasn't.
00:15:35 --> 00:15:36 Plagueis helped him get into that position on
00:15:36 --> 00:15:38 Naboo. He might have done the other stuff in
00:15:38 --> 00:15:40 the Galactic Senate. But getting that position
00:15:40 --> 00:15:44 on Naboo was not on his own. Okay, but he still
00:15:44 --> 00:15:46 did it. Okay. I mean, when there's two candidates
00:15:46 --> 00:15:49 and half your people are one party, like... It's
00:15:49 --> 00:15:52 not hard. It's a 50 -50. Okay, but what's half
00:15:52 --> 00:15:54 of the population of Naboo? That's a good question.
00:15:54 --> 00:15:56 Breakthrough IPO replacement. The population
00:15:56 --> 00:16:01 of Naboo is estimated at 4 .5 billion. So he
00:16:01 --> 00:16:04 manipulated 2 billion people as well? However,
00:16:04 --> 00:16:07 when he was elected senator, was it... Wait,
00:16:07 --> 00:16:11 wait. For that fact, 72 % of that 4 .5 billion
00:16:11 --> 00:16:14 is Gungan, and the Gungans were not voting in
00:16:14 --> 00:16:19 all of the Naboo politics and stuff. Okay, well,
00:16:19 --> 00:16:23 what's Brick Replacement? What is 27 % of 4 .5
00:16:23 --> 00:16:25 billion? Goddammit, I hate all of you. Like,
00:16:25 --> 00:16:30 1 .15 billion or so. So, a little over 500 million?
00:16:31 --> 00:16:33 Brick 3PO Replacement, when he was running for
00:16:33 --> 00:16:40 Senate position... You dug this grave. You made
00:16:40 --> 00:16:45 this bed. And now you get to lie in it. Brick
00:16:45 --> 00:16:49 3PO replacement. What? How many people were actually
00:16:49 --> 00:16:52 voting? Were they even voting for him in that
00:16:52 --> 00:16:55 senatorial election? Or was it just an appointment
00:16:55 --> 00:16:57 by the Queen of Naboo? He was elected. It was
00:16:57 --> 00:17:01 not an appointment. Who was his opponent? It
00:17:01 --> 00:17:04 doesn't say who he ran. It says who he ran for
00:17:04 --> 00:17:07 against Chancellor, not on who he ran for for
00:17:07 --> 00:17:11 the senatorial position. So some nobody not even
00:17:11 --> 00:17:14 important enough to name versus a rich, wealthy
00:17:14 --> 00:17:16 member of the. If they are running for Senate
00:17:16 --> 00:17:19 there. Probably still rich, wealthy, and a member
00:17:19 --> 00:17:22 of the Naboo upper class. You don't know that.
00:17:23 --> 00:17:26 That's correct. His statement is correct. You're
00:17:26 --> 00:17:27 the one that said it's like the only reason that
00:17:27 --> 00:17:29 he got to that position because he was rich,
00:17:29 --> 00:17:31 wealthy, and a part of the upper class. Okay,
00:17:31 --> 00:17:32 the other guy didn't get the position. But the
00:17:32 --> 00:17:34 other guy was still... in that same category
00:17:34 --> 00:17:36 to be able to get into the position to even run
00:17:36 --> 00:17:39 for it. Maybe. It definitely wasn't just some
00:17:39 --> 00:17:41 fucking Joe Schmoe off the street or a fucking
00:17:41 --> 00:17:45 Gungan. I think we've lost the point for fighting
00:17:45 --> 00:17:51 the charismatic. Do you guys have any final words
00:17:51 --> 00:17:54 for your arguments on who should win this versus?
00:17:54 --> 00:17:56 Wait, how many topics did we go through? Almost
00:17:56 --> 00:17:59 all of them. Yeah. Mara got caught. Palpatine
00:17:59 --> 00:18:01 revealed himself. That's the federal crime. Does
00:18:01 --> 00:18:04 a RICO really count if you don't ever go to court
00:18:04 --> 00:18:06 for it? Because Palpatine never really went to
00:18:06 --> 00:18:08 court. I mean, Mara didn't go to court either.
00:18:08 --> 00:18:09 She just got shot down. All right, so I'm going
00:18:09 --> 00:18:14 to take that as no other arguments for the topics
00:18:14 --> 00:18:17 at hand. All I'm saying is Mara is a trained
00:18:17 --> 00:18:21 assassin in hand -to -hand combat, in infiltration,
00:18:21 --> 00:18:24 in sneaking her ass in places. She was trained
00:18:24 --> 00:18:27 by Palpatine. So she's got some of them skills.
00:18:27 --> 00:18:30 She learned from the guy how to do all of these
00:18:30 --> 00:18:33 things. Yeah, but obviously she lived well enough
00:18:33 --> 00:18:35 because she got caught. She lived longer. Did
00:18:35 --> 00:18:37 she though? Yeah. Did she revive herself three
00:18:37 --> 00:18:40 times? Didn't have to. All right, so I'm gonna
00:18:40 --> 00:18:43 go ahead and explain who won each category and
00:18:43 --> 00:18:45 give my reasoning. So starting with overall force
00:18:45 --> 00:18:48 ability, I have to give this one to Palpatine,
00:18:48 --> 00:18:52 of course, just because I feel like Palpatine's
00:18:52 --> 00:18:55 repertoire definitely was more than Mara's and
00:18:55 --> 00:18:58 Exotic kind of showed that in his case. You kind
00:18:58 --> 00:19:01 of admitted that she learned most of her, at
00:19:01 --> 00:19:04 least dark side prowess from Palpatine. And we
00:19:04 --> 00:19:07 all know that Palpatine was definitely not teaching
00:19:07 --> 00:19:09 her everything. so that there was no chance that
00:19:09 --> 00:19:12 she could thwart him. Not only was Palpatine
00:19:12 --> 00:19:15 skilled in using the dark side of the Force,
00:19:15 --> 00:19:18 but also in dark side alchemy, as we see in the
00:19:18 --> 00:19:20 Clone Wars. So I'm definitely giving overall
00:19:20 --> 00:19:23 Force ability, techniques, mastery, and understanding
00:19:23 --> 00:19:26 to Palpatine because of that. For natural speed,
00:19:26 --> 00:19:28 this one doesn't need much explanation. Mara
00:19:28 --> 00:19:31 was a fit, fine badass, and Palpatine looked
00:19:31 --> 00:19:35 like a monkey scrotum. So clearly... Mara's taking
00:19:35 --> 00:19:38 the natural speed stealthiness was really kind
00:19:38 --> 00:19:41 of hard to decide who who would win on I think
00:19:41 --> 00:19:45 that when she fought very well to defend Mara
00:19:45 --> 00:19:49 but there's something absolutely galactically
00:19:49 --> 00:19:53 minded deviousness of palpatine to be able to
00:19:53 --> 00:19:57 hide in plain sight in front of not millions
00:19:57 --> 00:20:00 not billions but trillions of faces as the supreme
00:20:00 --> 00:20:03 chancellor of the republic to be able to rise
00:20:03 --> 00:20:08 into being the emperor and the you know a culmination
00:20:08 --> 00:20:11 of thousand years of sith mastery so i'm gonna
00:20:11 --> 00:20:13 have to give stealthiness to to palpatine i mean
00:20:13 --> 00:20:16 he was right under their fucking noses and they
00:20:16 --> 00:20:18 may have been aware of the dark side but they
00:20:18 --> 00:20:21 didn't necessarily know that he was the sith
00:20:21 --> 00:20:24 or that he was the source of the dark side clouding
00:20:24 --> 00:20:28 of the Jedi until Anakin kind of snitched. I
00:20:28 --> 00:20:32 will say just to the point of talking about Palpatine
00:20:32 --> 00:20:34 and Mara getting caught, Mara did get caught,
00:20:35 --> 00:20:37 but I will also say that Palpatine most certainly
00:20:37 --> 00:20:39 got caught also because he was going to try to
00:20:39 --> 00:20:41 play it off when the Jedi Masters entered his
00:20:41 --> 00:20:46 office. But once he was deemed arrested, he had
00:20:46 --> 00:20:49 that quote, so it's treason then, you know? So
00:20:49 --> 00:20:51 he definitely got caught. Close quarters combat.
00:20:52 --> 00:20:55 is again going to have to be given to Mara for
00:20:55 --> 00:20:57 the obvious reasons. Because again, fit fine
00:20:57 --> 00:21:01 badass, but also trained to be a close quarters
00:21:01 --> 00:21:04 combat expert. I mean, trained multiple contingents
00:21:04 --> 00:21:07 of not only badass stormtroopers, but did some
00:21:07 --> 00:21:10 training for the rebels. And of course, she did
00:21:10 --> 00:21:12 training for some of the younger Padawans on
00:21:12 --> 00:21:16 Yavin 4 after Luke establishes his academy. So
00:21:16 --> 00:21:19 definitely think she's taking that one just for
00:21:19 --> 00:21:22 her physical stature. And then as far as charismatic
00:21:22 --> 00:21:26 goes, though, I will say that Mara Jade was definitely
00:21:26 --> 00:21:30 a charismatic Jedi, Jedi master. I don't think
00:21:30 --> 00:21:32 that she's beating Palpatine when it comes to
00:21:32 --> 00:21:36 charisma. He was very much known as like the
00:21:36 --> 00:21:38 father figure, not just to Anakin, but to people
00:21:38 --> 00:21:41 who interacted with him. And I believe that.
00:21:41 --> 00:21:44 exotic made a very good point of saying like
00:21:44 --> 00:21:46 not only did he have to sway the senate but the
00:21:46 --> 00:21:49 senate is also thinking about like the senators
00:21:49 --> 00:21:50 at least are thinking about their constituents
00:21:50 --> 00:21:55 so just by means if the huh no they're not what
00:21:55 --> 00:21:56 do you mean you think your senators are thinking
00:21:56 --> 00:21:59 about your constituents okay i'm going off the
00:21:59 --> 00:22:01 definition of a republic they're representing
00:22:01 --> 00:22:03 their constituents that doesn't mean that's how
00:22:03 --> 00:22:07 it worked in practice which we saw yeah but they
00:22:07 --> 00:22:09 get bullied into voting for whatever he wanted
00:22:09 --> 00:22:11 you have to have we've seen that in the media
00:22:11 --> 00:22:15 You have to have a certain degree of charisma
00:22:15 --> 00:22:18 to be able to sway people. Or fear mongering.
00:22:18 --> 00:22:21 It wasn't fear mongering. It was not fear mongering
00:22:21 --> 00:22:24 until after he became the emperor. Supreme Chancellor
00:22:24 --> 00:22:26 Palpatine was most certainly not fear mongering.
00:22:26 --> 00:22:28 Otherwise, he would have gotten booted out for
00:22:28 --> 00:22:31 sure before any of this went down. Not only that,
00:22:31 --> 00:22:34 but I mean, if you think about like the war powers
00:22:34 --> 00:22:36 resolution and the powers that he was granted
00:22:36 --> 00:22:38 from the Senate because they loved him so much,
00:22:38 --> 00:22:41 they were willing to give him these extra powers
00:22:41 --> 00:22:44 that allowed him to rise to emperor. You have
00:22:44 --> 00:22:47 to be charismatic to be able to do that. marj
00:22:47 --> 00:22:49 was not doing charisma on that kind of scale
00:22:49 --> 00:22:52 like i will say within her own community she
00:22:52 --> 00:22:54 was probably most certainly the most charismatic
00:22:54 --> 00:22:57 person there even if you see like with the i
00:22:57 --> 00:22:59 forget what their name was but those five stormtroopers
00:22:59 --> 00:23:02 that she trained i definitely believe that they
00:23:02 --> 00:23:04 viewed her as charismatic and within her own
00:23:04 --> 00:23:07 community but not on the scale that palpatine
00:23:07 --> 00:23:09 was so i have to give that to palpatine as well
00:23:09 --> 00:23:12 so i just want to preface for the viewers that
00:23:12 --> 00:23:15 um before this recording ever started and i have
00:23:15 --> 00:23:18 receipts uh i was told that if exotic picked
00:23:18 --> 00:23:22 palpatine i just lost because my ref is impartial
00:23:22 --> 00:23:25 i am impartial i am impartial i literally i don't
00:23:25 --> 00:23:28 want it you know i don't but you know i don't
00:23:28 --> 00:23:31 referee you know i don't want this exotic to
00:23:31 --> 00:23:34 win that i was gonna lose coming into this Because
00:23:34 --> 00:23:37 he ran Brick 3PO off. But you knew. This was
00:23:37 --> 00:23:40 rigged from the start. Literally, I started.
00:23:40 --> 00:23:42 Talk about fucking cheating. Literally, I started
00:23:42 --> 00:23:43 this thing by saying, I hope when she wins. This
00:23:43 --> 00:23:45 motherfucker spent 20 minutes complaining about
00:23:45 --> 00:23:48 how his ref was biased. And then he comes in.
00:23:48 --> 00:23:50 And I have the receipts. I'll post them, bitches.
00:23:50 --> 00:23:53 Post the receipts. I ain't scared. I'll say it
00:23:53 --> 00:23:56 again. But you can't sit here and say that I
00:23:56 --> 00:23:58 wanted Exotic to win. Do you know how much this
00:23:58 --> 00:24:00 pains me? I didn't say you wanted him to win.
00:24:01 --> 00:24:04 I said you said I would lose if he picked Palpatine.
00:24:04 --> 00:24:06 I didn't say you wanted him to win. I mean, he
00:24:06 --> 00:24:09 argued it well. If he didn't argue it well, this
00:24:09 --> 00:24:11 motherfucker can't argue. He tried to tell me
00:24:11 --> 00:24:14 that Carrie Fisher was less attractive than fucking
00:24:14 --> 00:24:18 Revan Pixels. Like, I know this bitch can't argue.
00:24:18 --> 00:24:20 I was expecting you to come with some better
00:24:20 --> 00:24:23 shit. I'm sorry you disappointed me. the fuck
00:24:23 --> 00:24:26 am i supposed to come with i don't know you already
00:24:26 --> 00:24:28 told me i have no chance if calpatine is the
00:24:28 --> 00:24:32 choice i wanted you to win and then you ran off
00:24:32 --> 00:24:34 our referee brick 3po replacement motherfucker
00:24:34 --> 00:24:38 to be fair i did not run him off yes you did
00:24:38 --> 00:24:41 he said he said you read him off No, he said,
00:24:41 --> 00:24:43 I could just leave. And I didn't say, okay, just
00:24:43 --> 00:24:46 leave. I said, wow, you can't handle the rage
00:24:46 --> 00:24:48 baiting, it seems. You said that after that.
00:24:48 --> 00:24:51 You already knew that he's studying for his fucking
00:24:51 --> 00:24:53 finals. He has better things to do than sit here
00:24:53 --> 00:24:55 and get fucking rage baited. I didn't know he
00:24:55 --> 00:24:58 was studying for his finals. Yes, you did. Yes,
00:24:58 --> 00:25:01 you did. No, I didn't. He posted in the fucking
00:25:01 --> 00:25:04 chat last night. What chat? The fucking Magic
00:25:04 --> 00:25:06 the Gathering chat. You mean the one that I have
00:25:06 --> 00:25:08 muted? The one that you responded. The one that
00:25:08 --> 00:25:10 I have completely muted because you guys talk
00:25:10 --> 00:25:13 too much. You have everything muted. No, I don't.
00:25:13 --> 00:25:16 I don't have your server muted. I certainly don't
00:25:16 --> 00:25:18 look at it, but I definitely have that. I muted
00:25:18 --> 00:25:21 that chat the second I joined. And he told us
00:25:21 --> 00:25:23 last week at the end of our recording that he
00:25:23 --> 00:25:25 was going to be studying for it this weekend.
00:25:25 --> 00:25:27 So you're just wasting his time and pissing him
00:25:27 --> 00:25:29 off when he's got better things to be doing.
00:25:29 --> 00:25:31 And you just ran him off. And you expect me to
00:25:31 --> 00:25:33 remember that. He literally said when you were
00:25:33 --> 00:25:36 arguing with him, I could just go study. And
00:25:36 --> 00:25:38 then he left. There was nothing else I could
00:25:38 --> 00:25:41 say to him at that point. Except I'm sorry, but
00:25:41 --> 00:25:43 you won't do that. What type of finals do droids
00:25:43 --> 00:25:47 have? He's got to get his fucking certification
00:25:47 --> 00:25:50 so he's allowed to work on spaceships. Come on,
00:25:50 --> 00:25:52 we're not spaceships. We're an in -universe podcast.
00:25:53 --> 00:25:56 Okay, we're in -universe right now. Shut your
00:25:56 --> 00:26:00 bitch ass up. And also, this certification would
00:26:00 --> 00:26:03 give him the qualification to work on spaceships
00:26:03 --> 00:26:06 at NASA. Why are you so heated about this? Jesus.
00:26:07 --> 00:26:09 You don't piss me off today. Why did I piss you
00:26:09 --> 00:26:12 off? Well, first Exotic pissed me off, then you
00:26:12 --> 00:26:13 pissed me off, and then you pissed me off again.
00:26:14 --> 00:26:16 How did I piss you off again? I understand the
00:26:16 --> 00:26:19 first with the magic cards. And then you ran
00:26:19 --> 00:26:21 off our ref. By being the same person I always
00:26:21 --> 00:26:24 am. That's not my fault. What did I do? Nothing.
00:26:24 --> 00:26:26 Fucking changed the time of this shit like three
00:26:26 --> 00:26:29 times. I have fucking plans. I changed my plans
00:26:29 --> 00:26:32 three times. He's just mad. The loss probably
00:26:32 --> 00:26:34 doesn't help either. Anyway. See, I told you
00:26:34 --> 00:26:36 at the start. I scoop. I scoop. It was over from
00:26:36 --> 00:26:38 the start. It wasn't over from the start. It
00:26:38 --> 00:26:40 was over by the end, though. It was, too. It
00:26:40 --> 00:26:43 was not. It was too. I really thought you would
00:26:43 --> 00:26:45 have a better argument for stealthiness. What
00:26:45 --> 00:26:48 the fuck else am I going to argue? She's a fucking
00:26:48 --> 00:26:52 master spy and assassin. Okay, let me explain
00:26:52 --> 00:26:54 it like this. This motherfucker doesn't know
00:26:54 --> 00:26:57 shit about legends. The second you said, oh,
00:26:57 --> 00:27:00 she was caught by Luke Skywalker and blown out
00:27:00 --> 00:27:02 the sky, I was like, this motherfucker is dumb.
00:27:02 --> 00:27:06 It's a fact. But why would you mention it? why
00:27:06 --> 00:27:09 because i'm not a sleazebag it's not about being
00:27:09 --> 00:27:12 a sleazebag one i also forgot about that too
00:27:12 --> 00:27:13 though but like the second you said that i was
00:27:13 --> 00:27:16 like well shit like she failed being a stealth
00:27:16 --> 00:27:20 op also he argued that infiltration was not part
00:27:20 --> 00:27:22 of being stealthy which means the entire argument
00:27:22 --> 00:27:25 about him infiltrating the fucking senate And
00:27:25 --> 00:27:28 both sides of the fucking galactic civil war
00:27:28 --> 00:27:31 is completely moot, which is the exact argument
00:27:31 --> 00:27:33 that you used for him winning that category.
00:27:33 --> 00:27:35 I didn't say, I didn't say anything about infiltration.
00:27:35 --> 00:27:38 You said him tricking all the motherfuckers.
00:27:38 --> 00:27:41 I said hiding in plain sight is not, that's not
00:27:41 --> 00:27:43 infiltrating. That's hiding in plain sight. You
00:27:43 --> 00:27:45 just rephrased the thing that he argued wasn't
00:27:45 --> 00:27:47 part of being stealthy. To be fair, I did say,
00:27:47 --> 00:27:49 I only brought up the infiltration thing whenever
00:27:49 --> 00:27:51 you talk about crawling through vents. Like in
00:27:51 --> 00:27:53 terms of infiltrating, you were talking about.
00:27:54 --> 00:27:56 Like going into some place physically and like
00:27:56 --> 00:27:59 sneaking around. That's stealthy. That's physical
00:27:59 --> 00:28:01 infiltration. You don't have to physically infiltrate
00:28:01 --> 00:28:04 things to infiltrate. But he argued after I said
00:28:04 --> 00:28:07 that, that infiltration was not part of it. Well,
00:28:07 --> 00:28:09 that part of infiltration. That's what I was
00:28:09 --> 00:28:11 saying. You didn't say that. Yes, I did. Not
00:28:11 --> 00:28:14 not when we were arguing. You said I said the
00:28:14 --> 00:28:16 physical infiltration. He said that motherfucker
00:28:16 --> 00:28:18 is not crawling through Vincent. Oh, yeah. And
00:28:18 --> 00:28:20 then I said and then I said he was physically
00:28:20 --> 00:28:23 infiltrating the Senate. Which was correct. You're
00:28:23 --> 00:28:24 playing semantics here. I do remember saying
00:28:24 --> 00:28:26 that. You're playing semantics here, though.
00:28:26 --> 00:28:28 That's your game. You're the ref. So yeah, I'm
00:28:28 --> 00:28:32 playing that game. There's only one way to infiltrate
00:28:32 --> 00:28:36 a body as the Senate and it's with your person
00:28:36 --> 00:28:38 because you have to campaign. Physically infiltrating
00:28:38 --> 00:28:40 the Senate would be like fucking crawling through
00:28:40 --> 00:28:44 the vents in the Senate hall and then just sitting
00:28:44 --> 00:28:46 on one of the fucking platforms or some shit.
00:28:46 --> 00:28:48 So we can argue that Yoda was better than him
00:28:48 --> 00:28:51 at it. Yeah. Physically infiltrating. Because
00:28:51 --> 00:28:54 he was small and green. And I thought I was mad
00:28:54 --> 00:28:57 after I was robbed. I thought I was mad. This
00:28:57 --> 00:29:00 motherfucker makes me look like I was calm after
00:29:00 --> 00:29:02 I lost to Exotic. Jesus. It's frustrating to
00:29:02 --> 00:29:05 lose to him, right? Because it's bullshit. What
00:29:05 --> 00:29:09 do you mean? This was not a grand ploy to teach
00:29:09 --> 00:29:12 you a lesson or anything. I literally did not
00:29:12 --> 00:29:14 want him to win. I thought I was very clear about
00:29:14 --> 00:29:17 that. So you went in already biased. You cannot
00:29:17 --> 00:29:21 be the ref. If Rick 3PO ain't here, we ain't
00:29:21 --> 00:29:24 doing versus. I was going to acquiesce. He left.
00:29:24 --> 00:29:26 The second he was like, I'm unbiased, and you
00:29:26 --> 00:29:28 were like, he should be ref, I was like, okay,
00:29:28 --> 00:29:30 let me finish my raid bait. I mean, I did go
00:29:30 --> 00:29:34 in with Palpatine, knowing there's very few characters
00:29:34 --> 00:29:36 that I know of that would win in overall force
00:29:36 --> 00:29:40 ability and charisma. The other three was kind
00:29:40 --> 00:29:42 of tossed in the air. We knew. I literally told
00:29:42 --> 00:29:44 him, I was like, he's picking Anakin Skywalker,
00:29:45 --> 00:29:46 and then we were talking about it, and then I
00:29:46 --> 00:29:48 was like, oh, the only one that he could really
00:29:48 --> 00:29:50 pick to beat you is Palpatine. Yeah, that's why
00:29:50 --> 00:29:52 I... When I was searching for characters, I was
00:29:52 --> 00:29:54 looking for characters that I could guarantee
00:29:54 --> 00:29:56 win at least two, and then I could fight over
00:29:56 --> 00:29:59 one more to suede. And so Annie, I was like,
00:29:59 --> 00:30:01 okay, he's pretty charismatic, but he's not as
00:30:01 --> 00:30:03 charismatic as Palpatine. His Force ability,
00:30:03 --> 00:30:05 you know, he's the chosen one, yeah, but Palpatine
00:30:05 --> 00:30:07 would still fuck him up in it. And just his understanding
00:30:07 --> 00:30:10 of the Force. I think he would have won overall
00:30:10 --> 00:30:12 Force ability, natural speed, and close quarters
00:30:12 --> 00:30:15 combat. That motherfucker was far from stealthy.
00:30:15 --> 00:30:18 He was also the hero of the Clone Wars, so you
00:30:18 --> 00:30:20 could have argued charismatic. Yeah, I mean,
00:30:20 --> 00:30:23 everybody loved him, but he wasn't as snide and
00:30:23 --> 00:30:25 conniving as Palpatine. Yeah, well, unfortunately,
00:30:25 --> 00:30:28 you've won once again. And I hate it here. And
00:30:28 --> 00:30:31 I'm getting yelled at as Rick3PO's replacement.
00:30:31 --> 00:30:33 Rick3PO is showing so much more respect in this.
00:30:33 --> 00:30:37 Because he is an impartial, unbiased referee.
00:30:37 --> 00:30:40 You threw in facts about the characters in your
00:30:40 --> 00:30:43 analysis at the end that neither of us brought
00:30:43 --> 00:30:46 up. Yes. That was just going off what I knew.
00:30:47 --> 00:30:49 And then I said... Uh -huh, and Brick3PO only
00:30:49 --> 00:30:52 goes off the facts that we give him during the
00:30:52 --> 00:30:55 argument because he don't know shit. Yes, but
00:30:55 --> 00:30:58 what I was using those facts for was literally
00:30:58 --> 00:31:01 to show how it related to the points that both
00:31:01 --> 00:31:04 of you made. Bringing in outside information
00:31:04 --> 00:31:07 to make his final decision. Judging off the last
00:31:07 --> 00:31:10 time Brick was the judge between me and Nikita,
00:31:10 --> 00:31:11 I think I still would have won. Because Brick
00:31:11 --> 00:31:13 actually listened to half of the points I made.
00:31:13 --> 00:31:14 Are you saying I don't listen to half the points
00:31:14 --> 00:31:17 you made? Yes. You don't listen to half the things
00:31:17 --> 00:31:20 I say. You're the one who does that. I listened
00:31:20 --> 00:31:22 to everything both of y 'all said. I even sat
00:31:22 --> 00:31:25 here. I wanted to interject many times. I didn't.
00:31:25 --> 00:31:27 All right. Well, unfortunately, Exotics won when
00:31:27 --> 00:31:30 she's lost. He's mad at me. Brick's mad at me.
00:31:30 --> 00:31:31 Exotics is probably mad at me, but for unrelated
00:31:31 --> 00:31:34 reasons. I'm chilling. Oh, never mind. Okay.
00:31:34 --> 00:31:37 We won on one front. And I don't hate me today.
00:31:37 --> 00:31:39 So it's 2 -2. Nice point there. Give it a day.
00:31:40 --> 00:31:42 I'll give you the day. But that has been the
00:31:42 --> 00:31:45 three. this shut up this has been this week's
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00:32:16 --> 00:32:19 see you then later hunter i mean when she did
00:32:19 --> 00:32:21 he go okay no good you fucking just call me i
00:32:21 --> 00:32:24 said when she can't even get my damn name right
00:32:24 --> 00:32:26 i said when she immediately after just say bye
00:32:26 --> 00:32:29 bitch all right bitch say say your sign off