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In this week's episode, the boys gather all their thoughts about the new Disney Series ACOLYTE. May The Force Be With You Everyone!
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I can stream on Twitch too.
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Unless you wanna take over.
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You haven't uh- Me?
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Without my power?
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Good.
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You got it.
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Oh, right.
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Wait, so are you on your phone?
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I'm on my computer, but like, I don't wanna be running like a ton of fuckin' shit, cause
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the more shit I run, the faster the gas burns in the generator.
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Even like, pulling, you know, drawing power into the computer.
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It still doesn't have power?
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Nope.
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That's wild.
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So if I fucking like, randomly disconnect, it's cause shit went down.
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What happens if shit goes up?
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Well then, I'll probably take a couple second break to go turn on the motherfuckin' AC, cause
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my upstairs is like 95 plus degrees right now.
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Gotcha.
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I literally do not go upstairs.
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I'm living in my office right now.
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I care about the success of this team.
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I care about the success of these nuts.
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I mean, I feel like your nuts are pretty successful at the moment, so we're good there.
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You bet your sweet ass they are.
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I'm glad I'm not live for certain someone to hear that one.
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Which certain someone?
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Ooh, there is multiple certain someone's, but I'm talking about you.
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Why would she care?
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Cause it's a very unique situation to be in.
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Shut the fuck up.
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Her name is unique.
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And my nuts being unique situations.
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You can get Knights of the Old Republic 2 for free with Prime.
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You don't want to talk about my nuts no more?
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I mean, I'm just...
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Do you care about the health and the safety and virility of my nuts?
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No.
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I'm your big friend.
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All this time, I thought that you had my nuts best interests.
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Alright, cut the chatter.
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Can't say your nuts have ever come across my mind.
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You know what they have come across?
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Definitely not me.
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Wait your legs are very spread.
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It's fucking hot in here.
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My nuts are sweating.
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You gotta do the little Bojangles jiggle to get them from attaching to your thighs.
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That's exactly what the fuck I'm doing.
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You just need to dot your T's and cross your I's.
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You're right.
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I'll do that.
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Alright, well, welcome to the show everyone.
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It's your boy Niketa here with Winxy and Exotic.
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We are getting ready to do our Wack-a-Lite episode.
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I know you guys have probably been waiting to hear what we have to say about this.
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There's been a lot of stuff going around about this show.
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This is the first time I've seen...
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Well, no, it's not the first time, but this is the first time in a while I've seen something
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so overwhelmingly negative about something that Disney has released series-wise.
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I mean, obviously, if you count the trilogy as a series, that was pretty bad, but the
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only thing that came close to the negative shit I've seen is Boba Fett.
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And I really don't think this series is that bad.
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I think this series is pretty fucking good.
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I'm gonna be completely honest with you.
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I die on this hill.
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I'm okay with that because I have enjoyed it.
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Okay, we're gonna get into this and I'm gonna get real mad talking about these shits.
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Say your piece before I get on my soapbox here.
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I was gonna say...
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You're always on your soapbox.
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No, no, I'm really on my soapbox about this one.
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Your character's literally flying, Winxy.
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Okay, I have the high ground.
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Portable high ground.
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Yeah, yeah, portable high ground.
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What I was gonna say.
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The only thing that I was looking forward to in this series was live action Wookiee Jedi
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and I got it, so I'm happy.
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That's the only thing.
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Since we found out about Acolyte, he was like, did you guys know live action Wookiee Jedi?
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It was like a month before it came out.
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He was like, hey guys, did you know that there's gonna be a live action Wookiee Jedi?
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It released.
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It's like, guys, live action Wookiee Jedi.
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And especially getting to see him fight kind of goaded.
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Yeah.
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I thought they did a good job with... is it Kel-Naka or Kal-Naka?
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Kal-Naka.
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Yes, Kal-Naka.
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It's spelled like Kel, but I think it's Kal.
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They say Kal-Naka.
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Yeah, it's the Wookiee inflection there.
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I was really happy with how the series turned out.
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So one thing that I saw a lot...
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I think the biggest thing that people were upset about was fucking Star Wars space lesbians.
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I was just like...
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Where?
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Yeah, exactly.
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But if you know anything about the witches of Dathomir, people who are in these forest
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cults, this is not something that is too far out there.
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People were saying, this is something that could never happen, blah, blah, blah.
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It's not common, but it definitely feels like something that is easily able to happen.
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And when you tie in the time period, knowing that this is 100 years before we see the events
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of the prequels, this is good Star Wars exposition in the grand scheme of Star Wars lore, because
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this could be how Plagueis gets his inspiration while he's under the rule of Tenebrous and
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trying to be perverse in the forest to create life.
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And then of course, we all know that that perversion is what leads to another virgins
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in the forest that's more natural with Anakin Skywalker.
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I like that this is a prequel to the prequel where we get the first media representation
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of a virgins that's not Anakin Skywalker.
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But technically, and this has been confirmed by Headland, the girls are not a virgins.
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They were created using a virgins, but they are not a virgins.
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And she specifically said, this is different.
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We didn't want to...
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Which is funny because people were complaining like, they retconned Anakin Skywalker.
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This is fake.
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They can't do this.
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Blah, blah, blah.
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He was the chosen one.
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They weren't a virgins.
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They were created with a virgins.
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There was a virgins on Brandoc.
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And she specifically said they're not going to fully dive into it so that they can come
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back to it at a later date in a book or another series or whatever and maybe explore it a
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little bit more.
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But they were created with a virgins.
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They are not a virgins themselves.
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So get fucked all you stupid shits with your retcon motherfucking bullshit.
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He's starting.
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Here we go.
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So the twins were created with a virgins, but Anakin Skywalker is a virgins?
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Yes.
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And Qui-Gon specifically said that he is a virgins in the Force in the movie.
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So that being said, the virgins that was used by the witches to create the twins, is it
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like a Force Nexus or like, oh, you said they're leaving that blank.
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So they're not.
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Well, I feel like that's a little lame.
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It's like...
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But no, but that's what a virgins is.
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It's like a Force Nexus.
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So like that hole that we saw that they were doing their little chants and stuff around,
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I'm pretty sure that is the thing.
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And that's what they were, you know, that's what Sol and them were looking for on the
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planet itself was a virgins specifically because of the like hyperspace accident.
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That's a whole thing.
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And that's like what starts the High Republic era is this hyperspace incident.
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And the fact that the planet shouldn't have had life, which is what they were saying,
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but because they think there is a virgins on the planet that, you know, the Force gave
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life to everything there and, you know, made it flourish and whatnot.
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So it is, it is a Force Nexus.
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They're just, she said, like, Hedlund said they may not like give you all the details
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here just so that they like have the capability to come back and like explain it or have somebody
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else come there or maybe even talk about the origins of what happened on Brandoc, like
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how it was, you know, got to this point that it's in.
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But like, she, you know, it is a virgins.
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That is what it is.
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You know what?
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I'm okay with that, honestly.
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Like it's okay to leave some stuff like, you know, out of the, the, we don't have to have
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every single thing explained to us in detail.
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Like you can, you can use your brain a little bit to understand what's going on.
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And by you, I mean all these fucks who can't read or, you know, pay attention.
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Everyone knows Star Wars fans don't have brains.
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What are you, what are you doing?
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I know that's the freaking problem pisses me off.
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And yet you're friends with me.
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Am I like the exception?
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Well, it's, it's, you have the like, cystic brain that like remembers everything.
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So like when you say stupid shit, I know it's just like, you just, you just have it a little
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tis a moment.
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Does he remember everything?
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He remembers a lot.
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If it's Star Wars.
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Now, if he, if I'm like, Hey, we're doing this thing today at three o'clock.
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I don't know about that.
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But like when I'm like, Hey, remember this obscure reference in Star Wars?
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And he'll be like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Yeah.
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Look, I came here to have a good time and honestly I'm feeling so attacked right now.
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You're not even being attacked.
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I'm literally saying you're like a genius with the Star Wars stuff.
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You're just bad at remembering, you know, plans.
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It's like a compliment sandwich.
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You're just, you're saying something mean, then something nice and something mean again.
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Like, does it make me feel better?
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I can't just say nice things about you.
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Yes, you can.
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No, I can't.
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There's not enough nice things.
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We definitely can't do that.
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There's too many toxic people in my life at this point now.
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It's just, you're ruining me.
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How many?
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Two?
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I mean, yes.
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And that's enough.
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Wait, who are you thinking of as the second one?
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My wife.
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Okay, three then.
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Oh, exotics, the other one?
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Okay, four.
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Oh, okay.
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You see, you see?
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You see?
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You make me count and then I realize things are worse than they actually seem.
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But no, I've, I don't understand the hate.
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I really don't.
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Like, I don't get where it's coming from.
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It seems unfounded.
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Like, it really does seem unfounded to me.
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The thing with the hate boner that these people have, right, it's because, A, they hate Disney
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and they hate the fact that like they've been more inclusive and whatnot over the recent
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years and so everything that Disney releases, like with, with black main characters or LGBTQ
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representation or anything or perceived LGBTQ representation, they're gonna hate on it because
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they hate people.
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They're racist.
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They're, they're sexist.
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They hate people who are different than them and they just want something to be angry at.
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And the fact that the show is actually good pisses them off even more because they're
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like, wow, all these things I hate are in the show, but the show is actually freaking
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good.
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Now I have to hate like this Star Wars theory guy.
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I'm totally going to rag on this dude right now.
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Every one of his videos is the dumbest fucking shit I have ever seen.
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That dude is so fucking stupid.
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I thought he was leaving the Star Wars creating world or whatever.
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No, every single episode that comes out, he drops like three or four YouTube videos complaining
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about some dumb ass shit just to like get clicks on his stupid YouTube videos.
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That guy needs to get off the internet.
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I mean, if it works for views, it works, right?
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Is it, is it clickbait or is he actually like hating on the shit?
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Yes, both.
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Oh, not a good look.
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Star Wars theory.
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Come on our show so we can shit talk you in person.
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Seriously, get him on here.
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I'll yell at him for a fucking hours.
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I know I had to listen to you yell at the film bros for fucking hours, literally multiple
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times and they weren't even come.
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They weren't even complaining about this shit.
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They were just, you know, had bad takes.
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This guy's just got his head up his fucking ass.
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Anyway, next topic.
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I also, I also think that, um, like now after seeing what's been released, cause right now
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we're on episode seven, episode eight will come out this week.
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I think that acolyte probably takes the cake for like best on screen lightsaber choreography
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now.
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Oh my God.
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It was, I was screaming.
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Tina thought something was wrong.
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I was, I was screaming.
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It was so good.
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I made her come and watch the whole fight with me and even she who doesn't, you know,
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watch star wars was like, holy shit, that is dope.
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Bro, the kebab move, that shit.
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I screamed so loud.
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He fucking impales the stranger impales one Jedi and then pulls the other Jedi onto the
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same.
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I was like, and then follows up with the decapitation of both of them.
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That's so sick.
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And on top of all that, we've, we come to find out that his helmet not only is made
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of cortosis, but it blocks all of his senses.
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So he couldn't see, he couldn't hear.
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That was all the force.
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Homie just slapped them motherfuckers and he couldn't even see.
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I want to know who he is in the grand scheme of things.
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Cause he's like, he's saying all he wants is like a pupil.
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So I don't think he's, I don't know who Tenebrous master is, but like the timeframe is off for
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him to be someone like in the scheme of Tenebrous Plagueis.
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So like he's definitely something separate from that rule of two.
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I want to know who trained, I want to know where, like where he fits into it.
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So my theory, and I've seen this a couple other places, but I think it fits is that
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because he said he was a Jedi a long time ago, right?
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I have a feeling that maybe he was Vernestra's apprentice or Padawan because the scars that
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you see on his back and the fact that he has the Shodo saber, the scars on his back look,
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they don't look like lightsaber attacks, but we know that they were from a force user because
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he's kind of insinuated that they look like whip, like whip marks.
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I feel like he was Vernestra's apprentice and she tried to off him because you know,
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he wanted, he got a little too uppity, right?
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And now, and the way that she's been acting where she was like something to tip the scales
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or whatever, I think he was, and she's, she's over a hundred years old at this point.
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She's from the High Republic books.
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So she has some established like canon lore, right?
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So she's old.
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And so him saying that like, oh, I was a Jedi a long time ago or, you know, trained as a
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Padawan a long time ago kind of makes me think that maybe it was Vernestra and the fact that
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we focus on her so much that they're, they're very connected.
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Now I don't think a hundred percent that he is a part of the rule of two.
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I think maybe he found like a holocron or something and is like, you know, imitating
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or trying to like, maybe he thinks the Sith are actually died out and he's trying to like
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restart the, you know, the, the Sith line, that kind of thing.
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He definitely has like some knowledge of the Sith, obviously, because he understands the
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rule of two and most of the other Jedi have no clue even what a Sith is.
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So like, I think he's gotten some knowledge, you know, like I said, holocron or otherwise,
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or maybe he, he found like a nexus, maybe like on the planet that he's on because the
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planet that he's on has a cortosis veins and we know that like Tenebris and them had a,
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you know, secret operations on a planet with cortosis veins and cortosis veins aren't that
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common.
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So potentially there's some tie in there that like maybe he found some of Tenebris or, you
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know, Plagueis or whatever's content or media or whatever's like, maybe he got some of that
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stuff somehow and he's just trained himself to be this badass.
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But if you can imagine like, go ahead, go ahead.
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What if he's like the, the maul for Tenebris or the maul for Plagueis, right?
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Like, right, the failed apprentice or like the, the one that yeah, yeah, that was my
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other theory is maybe he, he did train under them and like just didn't cut it or like they
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found somebody better kicked him out, that kind of thing.
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That's totally, you know, he could have learned about the rule of two and everything from
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them.
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Either way, if he's not part of the rule of two and he's still this fucking badass, just
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imagine how insane the Sith Lords are that we're potentially going to see next episode
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because I do believe Hedlund said we will see two Sith in this series.
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Yeah, my whole thing thinking about that, I was like, maybe he wants a master to take
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over his current master or an apprentice to take over his current master and my thought
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process to instruct a Plagueis.
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So that's who I think that he is under in my opinion.
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And we don't, I don't think we know Tenebris.
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Is Tenebris canon?
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Or is he only legends so far?
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He's only legends so far where the timeframe falls.
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So like, since this is a hundred, this is a hundred years before the Phantom Minis,
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right?
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Yeah.
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132.
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Okay.
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This is 132.
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So that means like, so it's like 80 years before Plagueis is young.
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So I don't think that this would be a Plagueis like Acolyte.
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I don't think this is a, I think this would have to be like Tenebris.
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Tenebris would be like probably just trying to start finding an apprentice at this point.
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So either we're going to see Tenebris or we're going to see cannons rendit.
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Like you know, they may change it into some other person, but it'll be like Tenebris's
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counterpart in canon.
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That's what I would think.
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So I'm excited to see who that could be.
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You know, I even have some ideas that I don't maybe think it's true, but it could be Vernestra.
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Even though she has like some canon stuff where people are like, it can't be her, blah, blah,
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blah.
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But like it totally could be.
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She could be hiding right there in plain sight in the Jedi Order.
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She is like putting in all those like political, you know, calls and whatnot, trying to keep
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people out of the Jedi's business, keep them from investigating, keep the Jedi like, you
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know, in the power position that they're building.
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So she could be like either a Sith or a like a partner to the Sith, like helping them with
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the, you know, the eventual agenda that culminates with Palpatine's takeover.
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I have theories, you know, there could be a season two.
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We may not even get all the answers this season, but yeah.
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If they're doing eight episodes, I don't think there's going to be a season two.
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I think they're going to pull a Kenobi and a Fett on this one.
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No, she said like they're, they're leaving enough up in the air that they can do, they
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can do a season two.
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It's not confirmed or anything.
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And we'll see like with the outcome of everything if they do it.
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But I think she said there's enough content and enough stuff that they'll leave.
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Not, not unfinished, but like able to, you know, stuff that they can progress a storyline
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with it.
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So potentially we could see a season two if, if they deem it, you know, worth producing.
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I'd be down for a season two.
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I've liked it.
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I like, I've, I've thoroughly enjoyed it.
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If I had to give this right now, like where it is episode seven, like a rating out of
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one out of 10, I give it a seven and a half easy, easy peasy.
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That's exactly what I would give it to.
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Yeah.
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I would give it a seven and a half.
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I think the story itself, I think is very good.
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I think they've done a good job.
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Like the flashbacks, you know, like initially we only saw Osha's perspective for, for what
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happened on Bryndok and people were so mad about that, you know, like, oh, how could
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the witches die in the fire?
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Blah, blah, blah.
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This is bullshit.
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No way.
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You know, and it was like, we only saw the one girl's perspective.
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We never saw any of the other things that happen.
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We know other stuff did happen.
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So like there's that whole aspect where they're telling us the past and the present, like
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in, in tandem.
00:17:50
Um, I love the little snippets that we're getting.
00:17:52
I think it's very good.
00:17:53
I do have some like issues with not the actors and the actresses themselves, but like some
00:17:58
of the dialogue and the way they deliver it, I think just feels a little not cringe, but
00:18:02
like forced, it feels like a little too scripted.
00:18:07
If that makes sense to you, like some of the, the, the main, like the Osha and May, some
00:18:13
of their lines are just, they seem a little forced, like maybe they need a little more
00:18:17
like practice in like the acting industry.
00:18:21
I don't know.
00:18:22
It just, there's some parts that I think it's, I think it's an understandable cringe because
00:18:25
like if you had an estranged relationship from your sister and the last thing you saw
00:18:30
was like a fight, your whole family got fucking melt learn, like burned down in a, in a fortress
00:18:37
citadel, whatever.
00:18:39
And then you saw each other for the first time and I don't know how many years, I feel
00:18:42
like it'd be a little awkward, which could lead to some cringe moments.
00:18:45
I feel like it's understandable.
00:18:46
Yeah.
00:18:47
I also feel like some of like when, when Osha is interacting with like specifically with
00:18:52
soul, like soul has great delivery on his stuff, but I feel like some of her interactions
00:18:57
with him, like from her side, just feel a little awkward.
00:19:00
So like I definitely, there are definitely some complaints I've had about like dialogue
00:19:05
delivery, but in terms of overall story, I think they're doing a great job and like not
00:19:10
giving us everything upfront and explaining every single little bit to us, you know, just
00:19:14
hand feeding it to us, which is one of the things that this stupid star Wars theory motherfucker
00:19:18
was complaining about.
00:19:19
Fuck that guy.
00:19:21
Like wait, like let the show do its thing before you start having a little conniption
00:19:25
fit like the whole Ki-Adi-Mundi stuff.
00:19:28
Are you shitting me?
00:19:29
Wait, what do you say about Ki-Adi?
00:19:30
Oh, so there was a huge uproar about the fact that Ki-Adi-Mundi A was in the show at all
00:19:36
because they're like in legends he had his birthday was blah, blah, blah.
00:19:41
Like first of all, he has no birth, right?
00:19:43
He has no birth date in canon.
00:19:47
So they can pull him in his species lives a while.
00:19:49
That's totally fine.
00:19:50
And then they're like,
00:19:51
Yeah, I think they have a pretty, the male side at least has a pretty-
00:19:56
I mean, you also got to understand that like in the Star Wars universe, humans live to
00:20:00
like 120.
00:20:01
So like people who have the force probably live to like 150 as is.
00:20:05
And I think he's Sarian, like, and I know that they live a decent amount of time.
00:20:11
So 200 years doesn't seem that much of a leap, honestly.
00:20:15
And so on top of that, the fact that he was there in the initial like meeting that they
00:20:20
had with Vernestra where they were like trying to figure out who the who trained May and
00:20:25
whatnot.
00:20:26
And first of all, at this point, the word Sith had never once been mentioned in the
00:20:30
show, right?
00:20:31
And people were having a absolute fucking fit about the fact that in Phantom Menace,
00:20:38
Ki-Adi-Mundi is the one that says the Sith haven't been seen for a millennia or a thousand
00:20:42
years, right?
00:20:43
So either it's a cover up by the Jedi that this happened that they met, you know, Chimere
00:20:49
and he called himself a Sith, or everyone fucking dies and nobody gets to report back.
00:20:55
And it was this was like episode two or episode three, and they're complaining about this.
00:20:59
And then literally the next like two episodes we see everyone dies and it's like, wow, are
00:21:05
we vindicated or not?
00:21:06
You stupid motherfuckers with your complaints.
00:21:09
Like they totally have kept canon, you know, information in mind.
00:21:13
Like they definitely have not left like these little plot holes in here so far.
00:21:17
The only one left from the fight with Chimere is Sol and May's not going to say shit.
00:21:22
I have high doubts that May would say anything because she didn't even know that he was a
00:21:26
Sith.
00:21:27
She just called him Master and she was an acolyte and Osha, I mean, look at it.
00:21:32
She's going to fucking join him.
00:21:33
She's the acolyte.
00:21:34
So Star Wars fans tell it this is the death of Star Wars clearly.
00:21:38
And I also love the fact that that headland went out because people were, you know, people
00:21:42
review bomb every single episode before it even drops.
00:21:45
And she she went on, you know, some interview and they asked her like, what do you think
00:21:50
about the review bombing?
00:21:51
And she was like, you think I give a fuck about the review bombers?
00:21:56
She was like, you think that's going to stop us?
00:21:58
Yeah, she was literally like, I they do nothing.
00:22:02
They don't scare me.
00:22:03
It has no effect on like how I feel about the outcome of the show or how that show actually
00:22:08
does.
00:22:09
Like we have our own fucking metrics besides your stupid like Metacritic reviews or whatever.
00:22:14
Like your review bombs mean nothing.
00:22:16
And there is one thing I did want to mention because it was it was a it was a it was a
00:22:24
little strange to me.
00:22:25
So like, do we know what the time gap between the event?
00:22:30
It's 16.
00:22:31
16.
00:22:32
OK, so if Torben was under a like 10 year bout of being silent, how the fuck did that
00:22:40
bitch become a master from a Padawan in six years?
00:22:45
Well, it'd be eight years because he's been in the thing for eight years, I think he said.
00:22:49
No, it was he was he hasn't talked to anyone for 10 years is what they said.
00:22:52
So I thought it was either way.
00:22:53
It was 16 years.
00:22:56
But keep in mind that this is not the Jedi Order that we see in the Phantom Menace.
00:23:01
This is and we can see that in their like actions, the fact that they're like a Jedi
00:23:06
does not draw a weapon on like an unarmed person, that kind of thing, or like without
00:23:10
the intent to kill like they have a different philosophy.
00:23:13
People are also complaining about that.
00:23:14
It's like, what do you mean?
00:23:16
It's literally a different time period.
00:23:18
It's like 130 years before the Phantom Menace.
00:23:21
You don't think that maybe a few things might have changed along the way.
00:23:25
Like it's a different time.
00:23:27
It's a different culture.
00:23:28
They all talk differently.
00:23:29
They dress differently than the Jedi that we see in the Phantom Menace.
00:23:32
Like everything is different.
00:23:34
It is a completely different time.
00:23:37
I still think it's, I mean, like even still, it's impressive to become a master in that
00:23:40
short of a time, regardless of what timeframe.
00:23:43
Six years from a Padawan?
00:23:45
Like he wasn't even a knight yet.
00:23:46
Homie, Homie absolutely had some trauma that he was trying to work through and he like
00:23:51
pushed himself hard through the Jedi Order, like to get to the point, maybe even where
00:23:56
like they were like, we won't teach you the method to, you know, like maybe they were
00:24:02
like, we won't teach you the way of like going into this like trance silence thing until
00:24:06
you've reached master because maybe it's too dangerous for a Padawan or something like
00:24:10
that, right?
00:24:11
Like there's totally some explanations for what happened and dude was freaking traumatized.
00:24:16
Like let's be real.
00:24:17
He got possessed by Mother Anisea.
00:24:21
He just wanted to go freaking home and then his desire to go home leads to the death of
00:24:27
all the witches, what they think is the death of May, the possession of Kel Naka.
00:24:33
Shit went down.
00:24:35
He's got some trauma to work through.
00:24:36
So I mean, the Jedi Order go big or go home, Torbent.
00:24:39
I want to go the fuck home.
00:24:42
Also I don't think like I think the rank of Jedi Master is a little different than what
00:24:47
we see in, you know, the the prequels because like we see Anakin, they say like, we'll give
00:24:54
you a spot on the council, but we're not going to give you the position of master.
00:24:58
But they never said that to be a master, you had to be on the council.
00:25:02
And we see we kind of see that here because in Dara, at the time of the Brindoc stuff,
00:25:07
she was a master, but she wasn't on the council.
00:25:10
She talked to the council, but she wasn't on the council.
00:25:12
And Saul here in the story now is also a master.
00:25:15
He ain't on the council.
00:25:17
So like,
00:25:18
That's always been a precedent.
00:25:19
Like you could you could you could have always been a master and not been on the council.
00:25:22
That was established.
00:25:24
So like what I'm saying is like, but in the prequels, we don't really see like,
00:25:28
Qui-Gon.
00:25:29
Sure.
00:25:30
But like, we don't see a ton of people who get to the rank.
00:25:33
Like we don't see them becoming masters that much in the prequels.
00:25:38
So I think it's just like people are just like, how can you, you know, how can you get
00:25:41
master?
00:25:42
Well, we don't really know what the requirements are.
00:25:44
Yeah.
00:25:45
And like the event.
00:25:46
Well, I guess you're right.
00:25:48
In Legends we do because in Legends to become a master, you have to be a knight that has
00:25:54
trained another Padawan to knighthood.
00:25:58
That was like the thing to become a master.
00:26:01
Not even that.
00:26:02
That ain't even that hard either.
00:26:03
But I mean, you could also take into account that maybe the events that happened on Bren
00:26:07
Doc helped kind of push him closer up there as well.
00:26:11
Yeah, but they remember they didn't tell the truth about what happened.
00:26:17
They did keep it secret.
00:26:18
So yeah, he may have gotten like props for what happened there.
00:26:21
He may have gotten false like accolades or whatever.
00:26:23
He didn't.
00:26:24
Okay, that makes more sense on why he killed himself then.
00:26:27
He didn't do too well against Kalnaka, but he still kind of held his own in that fight
00:26:31
a little bit.
00:26:32
Until he got choked out and slammed into the wall.
00:26:34
Everyone was doing well in the fights.
00:26:37
Even Jackie, like Jackie being able to hold her own against the stranger was fucking impressive
00:26:41
as a Padawan.
00:26:42
Dual wielding and breaking his helmet too.
00:26:45
With her fists and her elbow.
00:26:46
She didn't even break it with her saber.
00:26:48
She just beat the shit out of that helmet.
00:26:50
Pretty sure she hit it with the hilt of the saber, right?
00:26:53
Yeah, I think so.
00:26:55
Yeah.
00:26:56
She realized like it was shorting the saber.
00:26:58
No, no, she used.
00:27:00
No, she picked up somebody else's.
00:27:01
Oh, wait, then how did his sword short out that one time?
00:27:06
Yord used the helmet against him.
00:27:07
Oh, Yord.
00:27:08
Oh, dude, before Yord got fucking shit snapped.
00:27:11
Yeah.
00:27:12
I had to give him props though.
00:27:13
It was a smart like, you know, quick thinking.
00:27:15
See helmet, realize it's short saber, hit saber, short the saber, try to beat the crap
00:27:20
out of the dude.
00:27:21
He just, you know, skilled this.
00:27:23
Yeah, the thought was there, but the execution was wrong.
00:27:27
Yeah, I just, the hate that this series has garnered is just unfounded.
00:27:34
I like it.
00:27:35
I really do.
00:27:36
I've enjoyed it.
00:27:37
I'm hoping that it's not, it hasn't been confirmed that it's just eight episodes and then done.
00:27:42
They said it was eight episodes.
00:27:44
Like 95% sure.
00:27:45
I'd say they changed their mind, but.
00:27:48
Pretty much all of their TV series are eight episodes except Andor.
00:27:51
And Andor is in a league of its own.
00:27:53
Yes.
00:27:54
Honestly, nothing really compares to Andor, but I love that we see, you know, we talk
00:27:59
about being seduced to the dark side and Chimere is 100% showing us like the seduction
00:28:08
of the dark side, the freedom, the power.
00:28:11
He is selling that shit to Osha like a master car salesman.
00:28:16
Oh yeah, especially when she was like, is this the shit that you told my sister?
00:28:20
He was like, I thought she was different.
00:28:22
Like I did not expect that answer.
00:28:24
I did not expect him to hit her with that so fast and so succinctly where she was just
00:28:32
like, well damn, okay.
00:28:34
We also kind of see like not only Chimere, but Soul, both of them had a connection to
00:28:41
Osha where they felt like they needed to train her.
00:28:44
Like she was the one that they needed to train.
00:28:47
Soul wanted her as his padawan so bad and now Chimere, having met her and like talked
00:28:52
to her, was like, fuck your sister.
00:28:55
You my padawan now or my apprentice or my acolyte, whatever.
00:28:59
Right?
00:29:00
He's going to go to like every freaking length to keep her as his apprentice and she's totally
00:29:05
going to eat it up once she finds out that freaking Soul was the one that murked her
00:29:09
fucking mom.
00:29:11
Her mom who was literally trying to save her.
00:29:14
She went, she did the teleport stuff with Mei, trying to protect Mei.
00:29:19
Soul couldn't identify that it was actually Mei.
00:29:21
He thought it was Osha, but she goes, she goes phantom mode to go stop the fire to save
00:29:27
Osha and Soul has a little panic attack and murks her and then kills Mei.
00:29:34
What he thinks is kills Mei so that he can have Osha.
00:29:37
I don't think that was like a phantom mode.
00:29:39
I believe like, cause those witches are all about sacrifice.
00:29:42
I believe like that's like them sacrificing themselves to empower somebody else.
00:29:47
No, no, but we see, so like when, when Soul and Torben are there in the courtyard, like
00:29:53
fighting with Coral, right?
00:29:57
Coral goes in corporal and disappears, right?
00:30:00
And then they look up to where the other witches were and they're all gone.
00:30:05
And then immediately it pans to them doing the little chant.
00:30:07
They all did that shit and moved to the little, the little chant circle.
00:30:12
So it's more like a movement ability rather than a sacrifice or possession ability.
00:30:17
I literally think mother Anisea was trying to get to Osha as fast as possible.
00:30:22
I love that she hit Soul with the black woman guilt right there.
00:30:26
Like I was going to let her go, but you killed me.
00:30:28
She chose you.
00:30:31
I was like, that's black woman guilt right there.
00:30:33
I know that all too well.
00:30:34
I grew up with that shit.
00:30:37
That part made me laugh a little bit.
00:30:40
I was like, I had to like hold it in.
00:30:42
I was like, Ooh, right.
00:30:44
And Coral's still alive.
00:30:45
Wait, really?
00:30:46
Yes.
00:30:47
Coral is still alive.
00:30:48
How do you know that?
00:30:49
Headland, I believe confirmed it.
00:30:51
And also we never saw Coral's body.
00:30:53
Which one was Coral?
00:30:55
She's the Zabrak.
00:30:56
Okay.
00:30:57
Yeah.
00:30:58
I just can't remember.
00:30:59
Couldn't put a face to the name.
00:31:01
Yeah.
00:31:02
She's the woman that birthed the kids, which again, it was not some lesbian thing.
00:31:06
You stupid fucks.
00:31:08
She literally said she created them with the damn force.
00:31:11
You dumb motherfuckers.
00:31:12
I mean, if you have, if you're a woman who has kids with another woman, I could see how
00:31:17
you could make the jump to space lesbian.
00:31:20
It's not, it's not that far of a leap, honestly.
00:31:24
Was there any like, was there ever any romantic like, no, no, just a surrogate.
00:31:30
The way they looked at each other, them bitches were in love.
00:31:32
Shut up.
00:31:33
They're witches.
00:31:34
They're all women living in a coven.
00:31:36
They were not lovers.
00:31:37
If anything, it was Coral looking up to the mother.
00:31:41
Fuck.
00:31:42
What's her name?
00:31:43
That's like, that's like saying-
00:31:44
They were definitely having a lovers quarrel when they pulled Osha and Mae out of the forest.
00:31:49
Like that was, what do you call that if not a lovers quarrel?
00:31:51
No, I call that two parents disagreeing on how their parents didn't say that they were
00:31:58
lovers, just, you know, biological parents and or forcological parents.
00:32:03
One is a biological, forcological, shut the fuck up.
00:32:08
That's like saying that, that Shmi and, and Plagueis or, I don't remember if it was Plagueis
00:32:13
or Palpatine that-
00:32:14
Plagueis.
00:32:15
Okay.
00:32:16
That's like saying Shmi and Plagueis are lovers because-
00:32:20
No, Plagueis didn't agree.
00:32:21
Plagueis put Anakin in it.
00:32:22
Yeah, he did.
00:32:23
It's in the comics.
00:32:24
It is confirmed in canon now.
00:32:25
Oh, oh.
00:32:26
I'll need a fact check on that.
00:32:28
Because from what I remember-
00:32:29
Rick, give me that fact check.
00:32:31
The Force, the Force answered Plagueis's like, his experiment with Anakin.
00:32:38
That's how it was in legends.
00:32:39
And that's what I was under the impression of.
00:32:40
I didn't know that he actually impregnated Shmi with something.
00:32:44
I've seen multiple things recently.
00:32:47
I believe it's in the Darth Vader comics that have come out.
00:32:51
Fact check, Rick 3PO.
00:32:52
Yeah, from what I remember, Anakin was the answer to Plagueis by the Force.
00:32:57
Yeah, it was a response to his sin of perverting the Force.
00:33:01
Yeah, trying to create another Force, whatever it is called.
00:33:06
All right, Rick 3PO is doing his boobity boppy stuff.
00:33:10
Yeah, did Plagueis implant Anakin into Shmi some way, shape, or form, whether it be Force
00:33:18
or with his-
00:33:19
What race is he?
00:33:20
He's one of the big head fuckers.
00:33:22
I forget what he's called.
00:33:23
Yeah, he's part of the bacon clan.
00:33:24
Moon!
00:33:25
He's a moon!
00:33:26
He's a moon.
00:33:27
I think that's what they're called.
00:33:28
Did he put his moon penis inside of her?
00:33:29
I feel like I- I'm totally fine with admitting if I'm 100% wrong, but I've seen a couple
00:33:35
things about it recently.
00:33:36
Apology video if you're wrong?
00:33:37
Apology video if you're wrong?
00:33:39
I will apologize in this video once we get the fact check.
00:33:41
No, no, no.
00:33:42
You gotta make- If I have to make my own separate fucking video, you gotta make your own separate
00:33:46
video.
00:33:47
Fuck you.
00:33:48
Okay.
00:33:49
There's my apology.
00:33:50
There's gonna be an angry black woman who wants to fight you.
00:33:53
Okay, let's see.
00:33:55
So that was in Legends.
00:33:56
Yeah, because I feel like if Plagueis created Anakin, he wouldn't just be like, hmm, who's
00:34:01
the random bitch?
00:34:02
Let's like- I feel like if he was gonna pick somebody, he would pick somebody close so he
00:34:06
would be able to get the chosen one directly after.
00:34:09
So I don't think this counts.
00:34:10
That canon comic, I'm pretty sure that's Dark Dimension Vader, which would be an alternate
00:34:13
timeline where fucking Vader mercs all the Jedi, including fucking Yoda.
00:34:18
That shit was brutal.
00:34:19
Okay, so I- 100% maybe I'm wrong.
00:34:22
We'll say I'm wrong here, but either way-
00:34:25
Ah, you're wrong.
00:34:26
We could- We could-
00:34:27
Let's go.
00:34:28
All right.
00:34:29
I am sorry.
00:34:30
I'm stupid.
00:34:31
Nah, nah.
00:34:32
You have a good video.
00:34:33
You might as well not even apologize now.
00:34:34
I don't care.
00:34:35
Either way, we may still find out that this is where they learn how to create Anakin,
00:34:39
if that they did, because it's not confirmed or denied in canon.
00:34:43
I think that this is what gives them the information where they- the information they need to create
00:34:50
the perversion that creates Anakin.
00:34:52
I'm not- I am fully online with that.
00:34:55
I'm fine.
00:34:56
All right, any other thoughts that haven't been said so far?
00:34:58
Did you get all your soapbox preaching out, Mr. Winchy?
00:35:01
Let me think.
00:35:02
Oh, fuck.
00:35:03
Oh, oh, yeah, yeah.
00:35:05
Okay, so the fact that people were mad that it was obvious that Chimere was the master.
00:35:11
Oh, shoot the fuck up.
00:35:13
Not everything has to be some like secret, dark surprise plotline.
00:35:18
Like some things are okay if they're like the viewer can confirm it from what's, you
00:35:24
know, like happening in the show.
00:35:26
Like there are plenty of things where you know who the bad guy is just by like context
00:35:30
clues and stuff, but the main characters don't.
00:35:32
So it's still a surprise to them.
00:35:34
It's perfectly fucking fine.
00:35:36
You stupid fucking critic dumbasses.
00:35:38
Thank you.
00:35:39
All right, I'm good.
00:35:40
Yeah, don't be picking up on that.
00:35:42
They could not have found a better actor for Chimere.
00:35:45
He's so fucking good.
00:35:46
Man, I want to go to the dark side.
00:35:49
He got he got me wanting to hang up my fucking best car and join his ass.
00:35:54
I won't, but I had the feeling.
00:35:56
I think I've yelled enough.
00:35:58
Oh, one more thing.
00:35:59
One more thing.
00:36:00
Star Wars Theory.
00:36:01
Star Wars Theory.
00:36:02
Go fuck yourself.
00:36:03
You stupid motherfucker.
00:36:04
Get fucked.
00:36:05
I hope you watch this, you dumb bitch.
00:36:07
Yeah, fuck this city.
00:36:08
You know what, that line has never had more relevance since the city doesn't have power
00:36:12
still, but I'm 100% on board with that.
00:36:16
Abandoned reason.
00:36:18
No only war.
00:36:19
All right, everyone.
00:36:20
Well, that has been our episode on the acolyte.
00:36:25
Psych bitches, we back.
00:36:27
We ready to talk about this fucking finale.
00:36:29
Holy shit.
00:36:31
What the fuck, man?
00:36:34
Can I just say one word?
00:36:36
Plagueis.
00:36:37
Plagueis.
00:36:38
Dude, I, you know, all these people complaining, saying get headland out of here, blah, blah,
00:36:45
blah.
00:36:46
Y'all can all suck fat ones, dude.
00:36:49
This was a fire.
00:36:51
You can suck whatever you want as long as you're sucking it and you don't like it.
00:36:56
Yo, so good.
00:36:59
Bro, headland fucking hooked.
00:37:02
Hooked man.
00:37:03
Oh God.
00:37:04
Fucking naysayers can eat a sack of shit, like honestly.
00:37:08
I knew when I was saying that like this fucking series was good.
00:37:13
I meant it.
00:37:14
I said it with my entire chest, all three of my balls, my fourth nipple.
00:37:19
Like, I mean that shit.
00:37:21
This has been a great series.
00:37:23
It's still like, it's not Andor.
00:37:25
Andor will always be the number one series that Disney has put out to me so far, but
00:37:30
this is cooking number two.
00:37:31
Deadass.
00:37:32
This is obviously my favorite top of the Andor just because of a, well, it was one thing
00:37:36
else too.
00:37:37
Wookie Jedi and Plagueis's first on screen appearance.
00:37:42
Y'all know I love the Mandalorian, but Mandalorian is now my number three favorite show that
00:37:50
Disney has put out.
00:37:51
But it was just so good.
00:37:53
Like they didn't, Plagueis had what, maybe like five seconds of screen time, no lines
00:37:58
and it made everything so fucking worth it.
00:38:03
It wasn't even like the best part, but like the fact that he was in there, the fact that
00:38:06
they just showed it on a fucking planet.
00:38:09
There has Kratusis and the Sith.
00:38:12
They really took those parts of legends that like people were speculating the whole time
00:38:16
and they were like, yes, you are right.
00:38:19
This was them the whole fucking time.
00:38:21
I think of all of them, of all of the series, this series has definitely been like a shout
00:38:28
out to the legends fans, in my opinion.
00:38:30
Like I think this has been the biggest shout out from Disney saying like, hey, we know
00:38:34
that like, if you're talking about like the sequel trilogy, like we fucked up, like we
00:38:40
fucked up.
00:38:41
But like here is for those people who are the true Star Wars fans who still stuck around,
00:38:48
like we're not making all of legends, you know, like the new canon, but we'll give you
00:38:53
some shit that will make you fucking, you know, like we see you.
00:38:57
It gives it's legends visibility.
00:38:59
That's what it is.
00:39:00
And you know, I haven't read like High Republic yet.
00:39:02
We haven't, neither of you, you haven't started yet, right?
00:39:04
No, I still got four more books left of legends and then I'm going to start High Republic
00:39:08
immediately.
00:39:09
So, but I mean, the, the High Republic fans are saying that this ties in a lot of little
00:39:14
snippets and stuff.
00:39:16
And I think it's fantastic.
00:39:18
Like us as legends fans are just like, this is, this is amazing.
00:39:21
This is awesome.
00:39:22
And the High Republic people who have even more context than we do are probably just
00:39:26
like, you know, shitting themselves right now is so good.
00:39:29
I want to, tomorrow, I know tomorrow is going to be a fucking shit show on Reddit and on
00:39:34
Twitter because there's still going to be people finding shit wrong with this.
00:39:39
I don't know how, but they're going to do it.
00:39:41
I only had like one complaint with this entire episode.
00:39:46
It was just when the, the twins were like boxing each other.
00:39:50
I know, I know what they were doing there.
00:39:52
I immediately saw what they were doing where they were both throwing like the same moves
00:39:55
and stuff.
00:39:56
I remember like a call back to, to Anakin and Obi-Wan how they were so in sync when
00:39:59
they were fighting because they trained together for forever.
00:40:02
However, like with the girls, it's, they're literally the same person.
00:40:05
So of course they're going to throw the same moves kind of thing.
00:40:07
It just was like 10 seconds of it.
00:40:09
It was kind of awkward.
00:40:10
And then that whole time I was just like, bring back the red lightsaber guy, please.
00:40:14
Outside of the Plagueis moment, one of my favorite things was the corruption of the
00:40:18
Kyber crystal.
00:40:19
That little bit right there.
00:40:20
Yes or no, she blew up the crystal.
00:40:23
Dude, that's what I was pinging in the chat.
00:40:26
I was like, she did the thing.
00:40:27
I didn't want to spoil it for you, but I was like, holy fuck.
00:40:30
She's bleeding that freaking crystal.
00:40:32
Is that the first time we see a Kyber crystal actively getting blood on screen?
00:40:36
Uh, on, well, do you count the Calcases games?
00:40:39
That's not on screen though.
00:40:40
On screen.
00:40:41
I mean, it's on a screen.
00:40:42
Okay.
00:40:43
You know what we mean though.
00:40:44
Yeah, technically first time, definitely first time live action.
00:40:50
But it did happen in the game.
00:40:52
First time non-mean game.
00:40:56
I did not enjoy those games.
00:40:58
So I haven't played them, but I've seen that clip a couple of times, but yeah, dude, bleeding
00:41:02
the crystal, like realizing that she's bleeding the crystal right after she mercs soul.
00:41:07
Oh, with the choke.
00:41:09
Yes.
00:41:10
Bro, the second-
00:41:11
Killed him without a weapon.
00:41:12
The second the crystal dropped and I saw it like, like kind of like, I don't know if it
00:41:17
dislodged, but like where you could see it in the barrel of the saber and I saw her pick
00:41:21
it up, I was like, that bitch should have get bled.
00:41:23
I was like, I just knew it.
00:41:25
I fucking knew it.
00:41:26
And that is, that was so well done.
00:41:29
And like, I mean, you saw it coming.
00:41:31
Like when May starts talking to soul, like, you know, Osha's coming in for the kill, right?
00:41:36
Yeah.
00:41:37
And she's just, you know, but like you saw it coming and it was still just so good.
00:41:42
And she's so like caught up in her emotions.
00:41:44
Even when like, Camille comes to like comfort her a little bit, she goes to swing at him.
00:41:48
So good.
00:41:49
And then when she first ignites after bleeding the saber, you can still like, as it's changing
00:41:53
colors, it was still amazing.
00:41:54
Cause you can still kind of see that it was fighting back.
00:41:57
Like her, I guess her theoretical light side was fighting back the dark.
00:42:01
And then it just finally just completely overtook her.
00:42:04
That tip tried to stay blue.
00:42:06
I never want my tip to stay blue.
00:42:08
I hope you don't choke it that hard, but.
00:42:10
Choke that chicken.
00:42:11
So one thing that I will say too, since you mentioned one thing that you didn't like,
00:42:15
one thing that I didn't like in the episode that I felt was a little unnecessary was like
00:42:19
the hand holding at the end.
00:42:20
Like I didn't get it.
00:42:21
Like what was the point of that?
00:42:23
Like I understand that the, like they're in like in cahoots with each other, but like
00:42:28
why hand holding?
00:42:30
That seems very unsith-like.
00:42:31
Here's where my theories come in.
00:42:33
Okay.
00:42:34
This is where my theories come in.
00:42:35
Also, it's not unsith-like because Sith are free to feel their emotions.
00:42:39
That was the whole like.
00:42:40
Yes, but like where in this was there room for like hand holding?
00:42:42
This is the seduction.
00:42:44
The seduction of the dark side.
00:42:46
But what we like, you know, we've talked about how Anakin was seduced to the dark side, right?
00:42:51
Look at Osha, man.
00:42:52
She straight up just bought into that.
00:42:54
That is the seduction.
00:42:55
And like they showed the tension a little bit in the, you know, previous episode, but
00:42:59
like the chemistry is there and they're showing it.
00:43:02
And this is where my theories start because we have to get from them to Palpatine somehow.
00:43:07
You think those are Palpatine's parents?
00:43:09
Grandparents, maybe creators.
00:43:11
We don't know how he was born.
00:43:13
Yeah, we do.
00:43:14
But he.
00:43:15
In canon?
00:43:16
I don't know about canon.
00:43:17
I don't know about that.
00:43:18
In legends, he fucking he was born and he fucking murked his dad at like the age of
00:43:22
six or something like that.
00:43:23
So in canon.
00:43:24
Damn, Brick 3PO, where are you at?
00:43:26
Oh, we don't have Brick!
00:43:27
Do we know who his parents are?
00:43:29
It was something like Naboo family, no?
00:43:32
It's just the Palpatine family.
00:43:34
Yeah, but they're a royal family.
00:43:36
I feel like you need more than because he would only have like 50 to 70 years to establish
00:43:43
as a as a royal family on Naboo.
00:43:46
I don't know.
00:43:47
I that doesn't line up to me, in my opinion.
00:43:49
But OK, so could he have been like we don't know, right?
00:43:53
Like maybe they are like maybe Chimere is we don't know his last name.
00:43:57
That's true.
00:43:58
I mean, so so I just want to like throw in that those quotes that I sorry, Exotic, I'm
00:44:03
cutting you off.
00:44:04
I'm gonna keep doing it.
00:44:05
So like Hedlund said in regards, she was asked about Plagueis like, you know, do you are
00:44:09
you going to be like continuing the Plagueis story?
00:44:12
Are you going to tell that story?
00:44:13
And she's like, if I continue to get to tell this story, I know how I'd like it to play
00:44:17
out and I would say it's going to be pretty complicated and messy.
00:44:21
And she says the Sith are looking for like an atomic bomb.
00:44:23
They're looking for the card that they can have over the Jedi, the ace in the hole, right?
00:44:28
What is the force power they don't have?
00:44:30
And so far, they're in an arms race and the Jedi don't even know that the arms race is
00:44:35
happening and OSHA is the start of that like culmination into Anakin, right?
00:44:41
Like if Hedlund is saying that they're looking for the atomic bomb, they're trying to, you
00:44:44
know, start up their own Manhattan project kind of thing, right?
00:44:47
Right.
00:44:48
It's either Palpatine or Anakin is the culmination of their plans or both.
00:44:52
We got a hundred years.
00:44:54
This is a bit of a reach in my opinion, but I'm not opposed to it.
00:44:58
I'm not saying they have to be the grandparents, but like clearly OSHA is the key, right?
00:45:03
So either she has kids or they they cut her up and figure out how they they did it.
00:45:08
Her and May merge into one being like I have no clue, right?
00:45:12
Like there's a whole whole load of things that could possibly happen, but this is this
00:45:16
is the start of the downfall of the Jedi right here.
00:45:19
This event.
00:45:20
I was going to say like that's one thing that just didn't like sit well with me, I guess.
00:45:23
Like why did they have to leave May behind?
00:45:26
Like why couldn't may just go with OSHA and get May?
00:45:29
See that's that's the point that I was about to bring up is the like the symbolism in their
00:45:33
outfits in that last one because May's in the white and OSHA is in the black.
00:45:39
So like I like that.
00:45:41
That's what happened.
00:45:42
Like May ends up with the Jedi OSHA ends up with the Sith.
00:45:46
And so I think that that's OK.
00:45:47
Like I think that that part is OK.
00:45:49
I'm not saying that like it's completely justified and I was expecting like a merger to happen
00:45:55
honestly, but I'm not disappointed where this goes because with the fucking Yoda spoiler
00:46:01
at the end, I want to I am excited because this was like the perfect amount of just like
00:46:07
foreshadowing for a second season and seeing what happens now.
00:46:12
And you know that every single thing that they do from now on, the Jedi don't find out
00:46:17
about or is a cover up because up until Phantom Menace, the Sith aren't seen again, right?
00:46:22
Or they're not talked about that they've been seen, right?
00:46:26
So whatever happens with May, the Sith don't get found out.
00:46:30
And I'm not going to lie.
00:46:31
I'm not going to lie.
00:46:33
When Venestra walked into that room and said, master, I really thought it was going to end
00:46:37
up being like Plagueis for a second.
00:46:39
And then I saw the ears like I was I was so ready for her to just be an evil bitch.
00:46:43
I was so ready for it.
00:46:45
And they kind of played it like that, too, because at the beginning, she or like towards
00:46:49
the beginning, she gets on like a she's at the table, right?
00:46:52
And she tries to make a call.
00:46:53
And they're like, this is like not proper like protocol, but I'll see what I can do.
00:46:58
I think she was calling to see if she could get a meeting with Yoda, but could be someone
00:47:01
else.
00:47:02
But they did play it as like her trying to be sneaky or something, which did lead me,
00:47:06
you know, into like maybe she she is the evil one.
00:47:09
I mean, she is covering stuff up for sure.
00:47:11
She lied on my boy.
00:47:12
My boy's soul caught a stray posthumously.
00:47:16
Like I'm upset about it.
00:47:19
I'm going to be upset about it.
00:47:20
She OK.
00:47:21
I think it was a good move on her part to do that, obviously, because that guy, that
00:47:26
senator, he was going to bury her.
00:47:28
He was eating her up in that like beginning scene where he's talking to her like he was
00:47:33
destroying the Jedi right there.
00:47:35
I love that little scene.
00:47:37
That senator had it on him.
00:47:38
She had to do something.
00:47:39
He had that motherfucking thing on him.
00:47:41
Had that dog in him.
00:47:42
Yeah, he he was I really enjoyed that scene.
00:47:45
Like I'm not a huge fan of, you know, a lot of the politics in Star Wars that much.
00:47:49
But that senator, I would vote for him.
00:47:51
I guess.
00:47:52
I'm not a huge fan. Wait, you're not a huge fan of the politics in Star Wars.
00:47:57
That's like half of Star Wars.
00:47:59
That's what makes Andorid so good.
00:48:00
No, no, I like politics, but I'm not like I don't want to sit in the Senate and listen
00:48:04
to, you know, Palpatine's give a speech kind of thing.
00:48:07
OK, fair.
00:48:08
But I was going to say that the that senator kind of chewing into her and like the Jedi
00:48:14
as a cult, I guess that's kind of like sowing the seeds for whenever Palpatine turns the
00:48:18
Senate on the Jedi and stuff like that.
00:48:22
Kind of just like pushes like the Jedi out of the Senate's eye or like the Senate's.
00:48:28
I can't even fucking think of the word fuck.
00:48:29
I mean, it's how he gets Anakin on the council.
00:48:31
Well, you also got to think, too, that, you know, like like the senator that we saw is
00:48:37
of the minority like right now on the as far as opinion of Jedi go.
00:48:41
And we do know that the Trade Federation exists because of the beginning scene with OSHA.
00:48:45
So like, you know, maybe he's the one who gives the separatist moment like it's little
00:48:50
anti Jedi sentiment push.
00:48:52
That's that's actually fairly valid theory.
00:48:56
I would think it's got to start somewhere, right?
00:48:58
It makes sense for it to start there.
00:48:59
And I got it.
00:49:00
You know what?
00:49:01
As much as badass as Chimera was, so was putting up a frigging fight.
00:49:06
I mean, he beat him.
00:49:07
Yeah.
00:49:08
So so really was.
00:49:09
He earned the title of Master Jedi.
00:49:12
I'll give him that.
00:49:13
I'm still waiting on a onscreen Jedi to pull an Anakin like we're Anakin.
00:49:19
You know how Anakin mercs Dooku in Episode three?
00:49:22
Like we've yet to see a Jedi do that on screen.
00:49:25
And I want to see it.
00:49:26
I want to see someone else besides Anakin do it.
00:49:28
I think soul could have done it here if May and OSHA weren't there.
00:49:32
I think he might have done it.
00:49:33
He was that mad.
00:49:34
No, I don't think so, man.
00:49:36
I don't think I will destroy you if I must.
00:49:40
If I must.
00:49:41
That's that's the Jedi like like, oh, he must know because like he was he was unarmed.
00:49:48
Like he he cut his lightsaber emitter off so he couldn't use it anymore.
00:49:53
So he didn't have to because there I don't think there was any way at that point that
00:49:56
Chimera could have could have killed him.
00:49:58
He didn't have a weapon.
00:49:59
He only cut off the top half.
00:50:02
He still had the show.
00:50:03
Oh, you know what?
00:50:04
I didn't even think about that.
00:50:06
You're right.
00:50:07
Oh, OK.
00:50:08
You're right.
00:50:09
So so might have so might have actually marked him if May and OSHA weren't there.
00:50:12
Yeah, I'll give you that one.
00:50:13
Yeah.
00:50:14
Because I mean, you got to think like soul was already filled with emotions and all that
00:50:16
shit being back in that place.
00:50:18
His emotions probably would have just overtaken him.
00:50:21
Yeah, like he's literally standing in the spot where he killed the NSA and dude, the
00:50:26
way that Chimera uses the fort like pulls his sabers that does something to me when
00:50:32
he clicks them together again.
00:50:33
Oh, the whole thing was great.
00:50:35
The I I have I so so before we cut this this this episode to an end, let's go ahead and
00:50:43
give what our true ratings for the entirety of season one of Acolyte is.
00:50:48
I'll start it off.
00:50:49
So I'm going to give the entire series like so far, I'm giving it an eight point seven
00:50:56
out of ten.
00:50:57
Like like like truly, I thought that this was excellent.
00:51:00
And for reference, I give Andor like a nine point four.
00:51:04
So I think that this was I think the writing was good.
00:51:07
Of course, there was a there was a couple of sloppy parts that I disagree with.
00:51:10
Some of the acting was a little like cringe, weak, you know, and I don't think that's part
00:51:14
of the writing.
00:51:15
I think that's the actors for once, as opposed to like how the prequels were like more of
00:51:20
the writing and not the actors.
00:51:22
And so like I think that this was this was well done.
00:51:25
It has great lead up potential for another season.
00:51:29
And I am satisfied where it left off the little hints that we got in the last episode.
00:51:35
So yeah, my my final rating is eight point seven out of ten for this one.
00:51:38
I was probably going to get like eight point nine because I did enjoy it quite a bit.
00:51:42
It would be a nine, but there is one thing that I didn't really like.
00:51:47
And that was like in the higher public books, you see a lot of really ornate sabers and
00:51:51
stuff like that.
00:51:53
And you don't see really any of those in here because I really love just like saber designs
00:51:57
and everything like that.
00:51:58
And pretty much all the ones we see on screen are just really dull and bland.
00:52:02
Yeah, you know what?
00:52:03
I'm glad you mentioned that.
00:52:04
Yeah, that's because a lot of them look like souls kind of look like a variation of Cal
00:52:08
Kessises.
00:52:09
A lot of them, like a lot of the other ones kind of looked big.
00:52:13
They also look like big and kind of bulky for the hand to like they also kind of looked
00:52:18
like like Ben, Ben Solo's Jedi Saber.
00:52:21
They kind of looked like that one just like shaved around the edges a little bit like
00:52:24
they did address that in some like interview comments.
00:52:28
Headland addressed that.
00:52:29
And the reason for the big sabers is the new type of blade that they put in that makes
00:52:35
the blades look better on screen.
00:52:37
And you have to admit the blades look good.
00:52:38
They do.
00:52:39
And they the bigger hilt is to accommodate that.
00:52:43
It also, she said, changes the forms because of the bigger hilt.
00:52:48
It changes actually like the forms that they use when they're fighting.
00:52:51
So like Vapa doesn't even exist yet.
00:52:53
It looked like they were fighting in Makashi.
00:52:56
I can't don't quote me on that, but it looked very like aggressive, straightforward, perry
00:53:02
thrust, perry.
00:53:03
Kymere definitely has some some Dooku in him or Dooku has some Kymere in him.
00:53:08
I guess because Dooku's not born yet.
00:53:09
Yeah, Dooku.
00:53:10
Dooku don't even have thought yet.
00:53:11
So what would your rating be, Winchi?
00:53:13
My rating?
00:53:14
Nine, nine out of ten.
00:53:15
I want to give it, you know, more than a nine just because again, like those those cringe
00:53:19
things we talked about that some of the acting just like I said, it just felt a little too
00:53:24
choppy to me.
00:53:25
Curry wise, combat wise, lore potential, little little tidbits of cameos, that kind of thing.
00:53:34
Amazing.
00:53:35
Fantastic.
00:53:36
I for reference, I give Andor a nine point five.
00:53:38
So yeah, I mean, like we're within point three of each other.
00:53:42
I'm eight point seven.
00:53:43
He's eight point nine.
00:53:44
You're nine.
00:53:45
So like, yeah, we're we're about the same mind on this.
00:53:48
This was this was this was a good series.
00:53:51
Like good job, Headlin.
00:53:52
Good job, Disney.
00:53:54
Like this is the kind of moments that we like.
00:53:56
Of course, this is going to fuck up, you know, in between like, you know, a bad batch with
00:54:00
Boba Fett.
00:54:01
But like this this was a good one.
00:54:03
This was this was a good effort from Disney.
00:54:05
And I like it not only for like the inclusion reasons with like diversity and stuff, but
00:54:10
also throwing in the, you know, some of the legend stuff back for us, you know, older
00:54:15
fans and also giving like pathways for new stories for the newer fans to and new stories
00:54:22
for the older fans as well.
00:54:23
Like, yeah, kudos to Disney.
00:54:25
I'll give them I'll give them a little round of applause for this one.
00:54:28
Yeah, it definitely does not deserve the hate that it's been receiving.
00:54:31
You know, I saw I saw some comment from somebody who said Disney needs to have people in the
00:54:37
writing room who are not Star Wars fans.
00:54:41
And I'll explain what they said.
00:54:42
It was like Headlin, I believe, said that they brought in people who were not like die
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hard fans, like brought in from, you know, raised on Star Wars kind of thing, right,
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to help them like critique and design this show.
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And there's nothing there's no content or media that you had to have consumed to enjoy
00:54:59
this show.
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Like, okay, Vernestra is a little tie in Yoda is a little tie in and the five seconds of
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Plagueis we see is a little tie in everything else.
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You don't need to know anything else about Star Wars to enjoy this show.
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Whereas like a Filoni series, you have to have watched every single Star Wars thing
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that has ever come out to get all the little references and stuff in there.
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So I think they did a really good job of designing or, you know, building a show that anybody
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can watch.
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Who knows you Disney, you did a good one.
00:55:29
Headlin, I like, if you ever hear this somehow, we would love to have you on the show.
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You're you're you're you're doing your shit, girl.
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You're doing your shit.
00:55:38
All right, guys.
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Well, this has been the conclusion of our little episode about the acolyte.
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You got to hear our first part where we talked about the first seven episodes and then we
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concluded with the finale, super excited to see what Disney brings out next.
00:55:52
This has been a this is this.
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This was a great showing from Disney.
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Again, I have said it like four or five times now, but kudos to Disney kudos to Headlin.
00:56:00
This was this was this was some good shit.
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This is the stuff that I want to see.
00:56:03
This is this is how I want the the new generation of Star Wars fans to experience Star Wars.
00:56:10
You get the little bit of the old you get some new stuff and you don't necessarily have
00:56:13
to have watched everything to fucking understand.
00:56:16
This is this is this is a good move from Disney.
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Basically, that's that's that's the show.
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Make sure you follow us wherever you get your podcast fix from, whether it be on Spotify,
00:56:26
Apple Music, YouTube, The Force Unscripted, at Force Unscripted on Twitter, formerly known
00:56:31
as X and Winchie.
00:56:35
Anything to say about that website?
00:56:37
Well, since my last comment on the website was just yesterday and I spent all the time
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I had that was free editing the episode that we haven't dropped yet that we were supposed
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to, which is this one.
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I have no updates on the supposed alleged website coming soon.
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I think that's the only update we need.
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The man, the myth, the legend, the bullshit, Winchie Kabur.
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May the force be with you, everyone.
00:57:03
Thank you so much for tuning in.
00:57:04
Have a good one.
00:57:05
Tojini.
00:57:33
Hi.
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You